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Rick TYler 04-03-2005 13:58

Re: VCU NASA Regional
 
I've been watching off and on all morning (PST). So far, defensive strategies aren't working. It's hard to tell from the webcast, of course, but the most aggressive whackers don't seem to be doing well.

Any thoughts from someone who's had a better look (my Webcast keeps flipping between 150Kbps and 20Kbps... and I have to get some work done, too :]).

Goobergunch 04-03-2005 16:28

Re: VCU NASA Regional
 
#43: Red 2 - Blue 20
#44: Red 9 - Blue 0 (was 14, 30 penalty points)
#45: Red 21 - Blue 21
#46: Red 18 - Blue 50
#47: Red 10 - Blue 0 (was 9, 10 penalty points)
#48: Red 19 - Blue 10
#49: Red 7 - Blue 22
#50: Red 27 - Blue 0 (was 30, 40 penalty points)
#51: Red 28 - Blue 15
#52: Red 20 - Blue 46
#53: Red 30 - Blue 12
#54: Red 0 (was 9, 10 penalty points) - Blue 21
#55: Red 1 (was 11, 10 penalty points) - Blue 11
#56: Red 0 (was 2, 10 penalty points) - Blue 4
#57: Red 23 - Blue 35

Wetzel 04-03-2005 16:30

Re: VCU NASA Regional
 
I've got the entire match results in excel. I'll post them at the end of the day.


Wetzel

sanddrag 04-03-2005 16:45

Re: VCU NASA Regional
 
Just to let you know we viewers are running about 50 seconds behind on the video of the webcast. Can someone restart it?

Wetzel 04-03-2005 16:47

Re: VCU NASA Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sanddrag
Just to let you know we are running about half minute behind on the video of the webcast. Can we restart it?

We=audio? Otherwise I'm not sure what you mean...

Wetezl

Tom Bottiglieri 04-03-2005 16:47

Re: VCU NASA Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick TYler
I've been watching off and on all morning (PST). So far, defensive strategies aren't working. It's hard to tell from the webcast, of course, but the most aggressive whackers don't seem to be doing well.

Any thoughts from someone who's had a better look (my Webcast keeps flipping between 150Kbps and 20Kbps... and I have to get some work done, too :]).

I disagree...

"Shibang" has been very effective at stopping other teams from capping.

Elgin Clock 04-03-2005 18:33

Re: VCU NASA Regional
 
Awards for Friday:
(Sorry if I massacred some names, and the text in parentheses is the song they played during the awards.. If someone wants to update them, go right ahead)

VCU Awards 2005

Friday 3/04/2005

Imagery Award: Team 510 - Hawaii 510 - IFX & HSTC (?)
Radio Shack Leadership in Controls: Team 1541 - Midlothian HS (I've Got The Power)
Xerox Creativity Award: Team 447 - MadCo Partnership (?)
Delphi Driving Tomorrow's Technology Award: Team 384 - Sparky - Inf/SBCF/? (Start The Commotion)
Kleiner Perkins Kaufield Byers Eunterpeneurialship Award: Team 623 - Raytheon/PEC/LHMC/OHS (I don't want to work, I just want to bang on the drums all day)
Judges Award: Innovation in Tactical Approach: 1033 The Cadets - DuPo/Dibert/Delta/BHS (?)
Website Design Award: Team 623 - Raytheon/PEC/OHS ~ http://ohsrobotics.org/index.html ~ (Flash Site) - (Wang Chung - Wang Chung)
Autodesk Visualization Award: Team 435 - Robodogs - CISCO/NCSU/SE Raleigh (REM - Shiny Happy People)
Woodie Flowers Award: Charles Harris - Team 623 (?)

henryBsick 04-03-2005 18:36

Re: VCU NASA Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri
I disagree...

"Shibang" has been very effective at stopping other teams from capping.

I agree... I saw them running in a match. They would give 25 a run for their money.

/off defensive topic
I saw a robot rump like 4 tetras under a goal at once. I am not sawing it was a lot of points, it just looked really cool :p . I also saw Sparky pwning in a match. Good job to the 384 guys. I only was able to see a couple matches from the webcast...otherwise I would say more.

-Henry

Bill Moore 04-03-2005 21:12

Re: VCU NASA Regional
 
The announcer has to do what he can to try and help move things along when they are behind. I've even seen refs encourage teams to move quicker to get on and off the field in past years. Who is the announcer at VCU this year anyway?

Usually the first weekend is the time that problems are identified and that makes the following weeks flow easier. Did they plan any additional time between matches to get on and off the field? With two additional teams per match, they should have increased the time by about 50% as well.

BoyWithCape195 04-03-2005 21:17

Re: VCU NASA Regional
 
I find your comment about an arm very un-gracious professional. Some teams don't have a lot of money, or maybe they do not have a lot of engineering support, or anything to work with... by you saying that they must not be talented enough is very rude in my opinion. FIRST warned that there would be common impact, so if a team was not built for it, that was their decision, and if they didn't have the money, there was the kit base, which is very strong.

Stephen P 04-03-2005 21:20

Re: VCU NASA Regional
 
Sorry, I guess i worded that a little strongly. I think that they are now enforcing penalties against repeated rammings. I guess it is a working strategy, although you had to be there and be getting rammed to know that it is quite annoying.

Rick TYler 04-03-2005 21:24

Re: VCU NASA Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri
I disagree... "Shibang" has been very effective at stopping other teams from capping.

In the matches I saw, the teams that dedicated one 'bot just for defense lost more than they won. I also saw defensive robots that did not push other 'bots, but ran into them at speed. I don't know if they were penalized for this, but they should have been.

Stephen Kowski 04-03-2005 21:44

Re: VCU NASA Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wetzel
We are running an hour behind, and losing 1.5-2 minutes a match. We are trying to shave time anywhere we can.

Wetzel

hmm....oddly enough I believe we finished early today at Peachtree....

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyWithCape195
FIRST warned that there would be common impact

check the game rules because what this person described above is illegal....whacking another robot with an arm how he described is illegal, and not covered by their "common impact" statement.....

BoyWithCape195 04-03-2005 21:50

Re: VCU NASA Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Kowski
check the game rules because what this person described above is illegal....whacking another robot with an arm how he described is illegal, and not covered by their "common impact" statement.....


They were not whacking another robot with their arm, just getting in the way, pushing teams away from goals, etc.

Stephen Kowski 04-03-2005 21:57

Re: VCU NASA Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyWithCape195
They were not whacking another robot with their arm, just getting in the way, pushing teams away from goals, etc.

ah ok....Stephen P described it differently....that is just part of the game and is completely legal.....quite frankly I have seen for some teams it be very effective....you are right that they did tell people to build their robots strong because there would be a lot of contact....


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