Autonomous at Regionals
 

Has any one seen any team with an effective use of autonomous mode? Has any one stacked a tetra from the loading station or a vision tetra in 15 seconds?

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yes, in a way. many teams at BAE could stack a tetra they started with on a side goal. Team 133 (BERT) could stack on the center if they started with it. I was in the pits most of the time, but i don't think any team actually picked up a vision tetra in auto mode.

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I'm pretty sure I saw ONE team at the VCU Regional on Friday. It was the first, and like only 1 of few that actually used the camera. I've noticed that most teams start out with No autonomous, or dead reckoning for a few feet/seconds. Then as the matches progressed on, the more they did. On Day1 I didn't see too many 'bots with that feature, but by the Qualifying matches there were a couple of 'em that picked tetras up, but didn't score.

Our bot didn't cap, and the team didn't like our autonomous that I wrote, so by the time we were in the seeding matches we were idle for 15 seconds.

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No vision tetras in auto mode at BAE!

--Petey

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At Peachtree, one team started with a tetra, used it to knock down the hanging tetra, and then capped the tetra they started with. Very effective and they did it consistently at least 3 times in a row.

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we had the same way of doing it. we had it done 6 times In a a row then a team actually found out how to defend us and they did. but then we did it from there and out easily as well. we also go numerous awards from other teams on the Auto mode at least 4 of them. It was fun to watch the auto this year.

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121 only missed once with starting w/ the allied tetra, scoring it ontop of the hanging one knocking it down (the one miss both fell into the goal being contained)

157 could track the vision, and picked it up a few times but never successfully capped... there were only 4 teams total that i belive picked up the vision tetra in auto...

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no camera on at sacramento, but a good amount of taking down hanging tetra and like 5-6 bots could cap in autonomous

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Not a single robot was even able to pick up a vision tetra at Sacramento.

One team ran into one, by pure dumb luck when it happened to be set right in front of them. That was the closest to any kind of interaction robots had with them.

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one team came EXTREMELY CLOSE at peachtree....they picked it up drove to the goal and came down, but it was still swinging so they just missed putting it on right....

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The sad thing is, we had an auto mode at VCU that would allow us to cap center with the alliance tetra, but most of the time, our partners wanted us to run without it (I think they may have been a bit more reliable)
I still wish we'd gotten the chance to run it *once!*
Oh well, maybe at ROSi... ;)

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That was 1388. Just before the match, I was asked to unplug the camera, because they didn't want to use the autonomous in the first match. The robot still ended up driving into a vision tetra and quite nearly pushing it under a side goal. I ran two other matches with the camera, just to see how well it could follow tetras. Once, it drove through a side goal and into the opposing alliance's vision tetra. The other time, it pretty much missed. Vision is not even close to the attainable task I thought it to be six weeks ago.

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Which is why the camera box was removed.

I'm sure one or two teams will do it in Atlanta. At Sac, I was suprised how few teams used the camera (well .. even had it mounted).

Kudos to anyone who can pick it up using the camera.

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At the Rochester Finger Lakes Regional, team 237 could not only track and lift the vision tetra but also position it most of the times in or above a goal. I would be on the look out the the NJ Regional for them to cap a goal with the vision tetra in auton mode.

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Amazing how quickly things can change. Anyone remember this thread?

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=32209

;)

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The autonomous mode I wrote missed picking up a tetra from the autoloader by a few inches in our best match. In another match the robot nocked the tetra outside of the field. My teams was at the VCU regional.

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Given the new math libraries, and the support Kevin Watson gave for the encoders and gyros, I was really surprised that not many teams had good autonomous modes. The one best I saw at VCU was the Virginia Tech team who capped the side goal with an alliance tetra every time. With plenty of time to test, I'm sure that many more bots will have great autonomous modes, something to look for at some of the summer competitions.
My team this year decided not to have an arm, so our autonomous consisted primarily of getting to our opponent's side ASAP so we could get in their way. However, we want to put an arm on it for the summer, and I fully expect to have an autonomous that caps several goals in autonomous.

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No one at Rochester was able to do it, but as dez250 said, 237 came so close a number of times. So it seems like the consensus from the first week of competition is that no one has been able to track, pick up and cap vision tetra.

I'm interested to see if any team does it this year.

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Oh man! One of the reasons our (Aztechs 157) autonomous mode didn't work, was that we didn't have enough time to debug our code for the lighting at BAE.

We wrote the code in assabet (our school - It worked very well!!!), and our calibration values were much too different from the ones at BAE. We also mounted our camera way too low, so our yellow values were very innacurate.

I found out too late!

I guarantee, it will work at UTC!!! See you guys there!

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Team 772 used our camera during most of the qualifying matches since it was consistent at home but every time autonomous started in Rochester it was a few inches off. On top of that the fragile servo kept breaking. Overnight I wrote a different autonomous that went to the auto loaders which worked out much better (but the turning needs to be sped up a ton - if you saw our bot you'll know what I mean!!).

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At VCU:

Rookie team and our alliance partner 1610 had a working camera that drove them to the vision tetra and they could pick it up. The lighting at VCU was bad - the lights were mounted on the sides of the field, but none at the back so some teams' cameras would not work properly. Lighting in the pits was better than lighting on the field. Thanks to Gerome the field manager for trying to help.

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I guarantee you at Trenton we will cap.

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that 492 will be able to do it. At the Bellevue practice event they successfully picked up the vision tetra on every try and came *this* close to capping the center goal three times. I mean that they actually had the tetra above the center of the goal and it hit just a little wrong and fell off.

By the way, 492 finished their robot in three or four weeks and had lots of time to work on their programming. They told me that their chassis was welded together on Tuesday after the Saturday announcement, and was rolling in a week or so. They won PNW regional last year, and got to the semis at national. I would expect them to repeat.

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Man, you guys were so close at FLR. I am willing to bet you will get it, too.

For those of you that didn't get to watch Finger Lakes, 237 was so close almost every time. The entire crowd was rooting for them every autonomous mode. It was pretty exciting.

I hope you get it at Trenton.

-Paul

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We will be picking up a tetra from the auto loader by the next competion. We have the robot arriving a few inches to the far side of the tetra, so remove a few hundred ticks and we should be right on. We would have done that earlier, but we didn't want to mess up in the finals.

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Hi...Thank you kyle for that note....We plan on improving our auto
mode at national (if we get there,bots already there)....
anyway our two programming engineers,my son william and miles babb...
and maybe oscar have cooked something up for MB....hopefully it
will work better...also we have like seven or eight other programs
we can load into it if we have to change.

during the regionals i think also in the first match it found the tetra,
picked it up and had it over the center goal, but would'nt let it
go. We fixed the release problem during regionals, but had some
problems between the lighting and getting it lined up.

We also bashed our sensors up during competition,so they will
need a little fixing.

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Team 624 could pick up the vision tetras in autonomous. They just had trouble capping. Not just in autonomous, but in general. In the semi-finals, a vision tetra got stuck on their arm in autonomous and they couldn't get it off. Better luck for them in their next matches. :\

We don't have the camera on our robot because of the weight limit. We have it all set up in the script and all. We got the gyro to work on last year's robot, but not this years. I think that the interface was too different. We capped many goals in autonomous. We started to the far left backwards and we turned around, spun our turret and capped. I've been thinking on making a script to start in the center position with the tetra and capping the center goal. I'll have to start working on that at the Vegas regional.

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at ucf probly the team with the best and most flexible autonomous mode was 233
in one mode they could knock down the hanging tetra and then go the autoload station and pick up a tetra from it

a lot of teams could stack a tetra on a side goal if they started out with it and a lot of teams could knock down the hanging tetras as well

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Our auto mode held a tetra and used it to knock off a hanging tetra then stack that one on top of the corresponding goal. I like to think that we were the roll model at St. Louis for 1288 who did the same thing but that probably isn't the case.

There were no teams with the camera that I know of at St. Louis.

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We could find the vision tetra every time, and were very close to capping. With a bit of de-bugging we will be able to cap in autonomous at Waterloo!

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at ucf...there was a lot of good auto modes going

final rounds bravo to 179, 233..especially 233 able to get to the auto loader was nice

s.p.a.m. finally got ours to work well on saturday to cap and knock off the hanging tetra..i'm soo proud of our software team...auto mode before nationals :)

great job everyone..there were several more teams that did well too..can't remember numbers right this moment.

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in one of our matches, we(716) capped the center goal near the driver station and our partners knocked down the hanging tetras. so we had a triple play during autonomus. has this happend anywhere else?

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well Mike you know what happens if you don't, lol. I smell a rib dinner
:cool:

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we've got knockdown the tetra program, and a cap with the given tetra on a corner goal (which works flawlessly as anyone who saw the finals at UTC can attest). Were working on going to the auto loader and should have that done soon.

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We had (like many I bet) such high hopes for autonomous especially when we had the robot up and running a week before ship. But everyone wanted to practice, and then it would break and we'd fix it up, and before long autonomous was being left by the way side since we had only one student who can come close to programming. Then on the weekend before ship, our comp-port dongle wasn't working, then our gyro didn't work, then we couldn't get printf to work in auto mode, and when the RC failed to recognize the camera - we gave up on it. Lesson learned for next year - have it figured way in advance if you plan to use it!!

This year we have a set of simple dead rec programs that were written of Friday of the Sac Regional. We may play with our gyro and gear tooth counters some more at Nats. But then again will it give us a huge advantage? Probably not.

I still think 2003 was the best auto mode comp - A Race for the Stack of Bins - If you didn't do it, you had to spend the whole match moving / clearing bins. It started your alliance off with such a huge head start. Just think if they had the 2003 Auto mode this year, that would be fun to watch!