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DaBruteForceGuy 08-11-2002 21:37

IMPRACTICALITY
 
I think that it all comes don to the incredable impracticality of the whole water ordeal. It is so immensly impractical for both the teams and FIRST that it will not be done (in the present day and age). Just by looking at all the problems brought up thorough-out this thread i think that we pretty much explained why FIRST doesn't consider such an obstical (or whole feild) being of H2O. So i think that the water would just mess us up more. If FIRST is going to alter something i think it should be the carpet:rolleyes: ;)

ChrisH 08-11-2002 21:42

Quote:

Originally posted by dlavery


Maybe a kiddie pool in the middle of the play field as an obstacle? In the game, you can choose to ignore it and go around it. But if you make your robot water-tolerable and go through the pool, you get some major point advantage in the game.

All the Navy-sponsored teams would have a real advantage!

-dave

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"I love Mickey Mouse more than any woman I have ever known."
- Walt Disney

That idea brings new meaning to the phrase "taking a dive".

I too was at that legendary scrimmage, playing hookie from work, er developing contacts for possible future business. It was interesting that tracked robots seemed to have the most trouble. They had too much "float". Though the TechnoKats treads wouldn't have had any difficulty.

As I recall there were one or two instances of magic smoke escaping towards the end of the day. That wasn't necessarily due to the water though. I know we all used "illegal material" (cut up plastic bags and duck tape) to provide protection for the electronics. I was surprised it worked as well as it did.

My old BeachBot hat made a pretty good umbrella too!

FernandoG 08-11-2002 22:52

A water competition has been a big rummor even on our team since I was a freshman. It would totaly be an awesome idea, but it will probably have to evolve...

the very first competition would be just manuvering over the water.

later, having arms or tethers that dove underwater to grab objects

and finally, a competition of submarines,


BTW... I think that since FIRST is making their bottled water, the water competitions will be appropriate.

MattK 08-11-2002 22:53

maybe this could be the explination for the venue change

Wetzel 09-11-2002 02:26

Quote:

Originally posted by Hailfire
If it does happen, build a hover capable robot. That is... if it is possible.
It has been done before.
Also, don't revive dead threads.

Wetzel
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Deadthreads best remain dead.

OneAngryDaisy 09-11-2002 18:46

I surely hope they don't do this anytime soon- just imagine trying to set up a field at your school... the only time we'd be able to test our robot would be when it rained...

Adam Y. 09-11-2002 20:53

I want to build something that doesn't involve moving goals!!!!:)

chellyzee93 20-11-2002 17:17

Boat bots! that would be so cool. I've been waiting for a good challenge.

Gobiner 13-12-2002 03:51

This is only my second year, but from what I saw at regionals and nationals, I think that many of the robots would just have a water-tight (as close as possible) seal around all the electric things and just have their wheels extend far below the rest of the robot keeping it high and dry. It'd be faster and more maneuverable than a boat or hovercraft and requires less work or paradigm shift. I just get the feeling that most teams latch onto their greatest possibility of success and wheels do that for you.

T967 19-12-2002 10:37

why not?
 
What is this all about water not being able to be mixed with elecricity? or that the robots would short or any of the negatives? I for one would LOVE:D to have this happen. What a Challenge it would be!!! And not only that, the playing field would be awsome and every team would be equally matched seeing as FIRST has never had a water compition!

Well I hope this Idea happens and I can take a crack at it.

"Life is what happens when your making other plans."
-John Lennon

SteveM38 22-12-2002 14:51

Why do you think they made Duct tape, its a cure all for everything

tenfour 22-12-2002 22:56

Never
 
We'll never see H2O bots in the near future.

Its too complex with our current resources, etc.

-Chris

utishpenguin 11-01-2003 21:07

Naval Robotics
 
I think there is anotehr robotics league called "naval robotics".

Teams build submarines or stuff like that.. im nto very clear

it woudl be interestign to see a "naval" FIRST :D

mistresshawk 14-01-2003 16:28

Ice?
 
Well, it could be fun.... but what about teams up north? Putting a water practise course inside doesn't seem practical, but if you put it outside it might freeze! As well as it possibly freezing during the actual competition! It's still March for regionals, and though I'm stuck here in Florida I vaguely remember it still being nippy during March.

utishpenguin 14-01-2003 19:21

innerdoor pool?
 
that would be very amusing to see..... very hard to take-care thoough... more complicated than carpets...


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