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ttedrow 13-03-2005 09:45
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Can somebody help me out to understand this. How do three teams ranked in the top eight end up on the same alliance for the elimination rounds. On the FIRST website for the GLR, Team 67 was rank 1st, 66 was 3rd and 68 was 6th and ended up on the same alliance.

KTorak 13-03-2005 10:01
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Originally Posted by ttedrow
Can somebody help me out to understand this. How do three teams ranked in the top eight end up on the same alliance for the elimination rounds. On the FIRST website for the GLR, Team 67 was rank 1st, 66 was 3rd and 68 was 6th and ended up on the same alliance.
A higher ranked alliance captain (top 8 team people) is allowed to pick any team below them to be apart of their alliance (even if they are in the top 8). If a top 8 alliance captain picks another top 8 aliiance captain below them, the next higest ranked team (#9) moves up to be a top 8 alliance captain.

JoeXIII'007 13-03-2005 10:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ttedrow
Can somebody help me out to understand this. How do three teams ranked in the top eight end up on the same alliance for the elimination rounds. On the FIRST website for the GLR, Team 67 was rank 1st, 66 was 3rd and 68 was 6th and ended up on the same alliance.
I think I know what you are talking about. It looks to me that FIRST posted the final standings for the entire regional, after the playoffs. The problem is that they don't give an "updated at ..." note. For certain, at the time of alliance selection, 66 was #2, 67 was somewhere below that, and 68 was in the rest of the selection pool, lower than top 8.

Kyle Love 13-03-2005 10:33
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So, where was 469 in all of this??? Never the less, congrads to 66-67-68.

Lisa Perez 13-03-2005 11:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ttedrow
Can somebody help me out to understand this. How do three teams ranked in the top eight end up on the same alliance for the elimination rounds. On the FIRST website for the GLR, Team 67 was rank 1st, 66 was 3rd and 68 was 6th and ended up on the same alliance.
I'm pretty sure those are wrong. Team 1 was the 1st seed at the end of seeding rounds, and Team 573 wasn't 19th as it says, it was 13th. Team 66 was 2nd and Team 67 was 3rd (I think).

Beth Sweet 13-03-2005 12:02
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Originally Posted by Kyle45
So, where was 469 in all of this??? Never the less, congrads to 66-67-68.
469 was not selected for this year's GLR tournament, however I thought they had a nice and very original design concept that I didn't see on any other robot out there.

Don Wright 13-03-2005 12:45
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As usual, 469 has an INCREDIBLE root that will be a force to recon with by the time the championship event come around...if not before. If you happen to be at an event with them, take some time to check them out.

Will Hanashiro 13-03-2005 13:23
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congrats 66-67-68... you guys were too much to handle. 66, ur robot and its auto mode is just spectacular! good job capping the vision tetra in auto mode.

thanks teams 1023 and 308... we put up a heck of a fight to an awesome alliance in the finals. 308- I your robot is in good shape after those rounds of playing defense.

65... good job on winning the chairmans!!!!!!!

i hope to see you all in either west michigan or the nats... good luck to everyone!

KTorak 13-03-2005 13:26
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Originally Posted by Will Hanashiro
i hope to see you all in either west michigan or the nats... good luck to everyone!
We might go to another regional if we can aquire the money...We're probably gonna go to West Michigan or Buckeye...I don't really care, an Alliance with you guys again would be pretty cool.

Not2B 13-03-2005 15:56
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[quote=Jack Jones]
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66 was AMAZING... so impressive. Good job to 66, 67, 68. Wow...

Hey, does anyone know if FIRST will correct the standings, or what is going on with them? I noticed that 67 was 9-0-0, but in match Q68 our alliance managed to defeat them. It's just a nice cookie for our team to have knowing that they were in the only alliance to win over the regional champs. Something to keep them going until next year. Or is this one of those cases where one team has to play an extra round so their lowest score is dropped?

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Naw - we didn't think it possible - so just threw it out - LOL - JK
That's what I thought.... :) We didn't think it was possible either. The students were looking at the schedule on Friday morning and came to me saying that we were going to get smacked around on Sat morning... It sounds like there are MANY problems with the results, so I won't feel to bad.
:)

Courtneyb1023 13-03-2005 15:56
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I would just like to say that everyone was sooo gracious and professional and friendly the entire competition. I have never been to a regional with such nice and spirited teams. I would just like to say thanks too all of the teams for making the weekend so amazing! thanks to 308 and 322 for everything! great job 66-67-68 you guys totally own! Good luck to everyone in all other competitions!

Chriszuma 13-03-2005 16:37
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With regards to the question of rankings, the ones on the website are totally wrong. 67 was ranked 2, and picked 66, who was ranked 3. 68 was ranked around 26-ish.
Also, even though we had two teams in the top 3, remember that the rankings aren't actually that representative of ability. Alliances, technical difficulties, and inoperable opposition can all attribute to a highly inflated or deflated ranking. If they wanted to, the top ranked could pick the two directly below them, but it wouldn't necessarily be a good alliance.

Kevin Sevcik 13-03-2005 16:46
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I'll second that. Our team was working robot issues all friday and had some close matches. On saturday we had everything worked out and were doing well but lost two of our matches. One due to a -30 pointer from an alliance mate and one due to an alliance mate breaking down and us falling over keeping an opponent off the center goal. (Sorry TTT) So I think we were a lot stronger than our ranking showed.

Also, this kinda points to the silliness of the standby robot selection since it too is based purely on rank.

Quatitos 13-03-2005 17:19
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Does anyone know if the anyone topped 67, 279, and 548's score of 74? I spent a lot of time in the pits and didn't see anyone do it while I was watching the matches? I checked the match results and didn't see anything, but from what I've heard about the websites information being right so I thought I should ask.

Beth Sweet 13-03-2005 18:16
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99.9% sure it wasn't topped at GLR, but someone in the first week got one in the 90's.


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