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Any updates on who looks good (besides team 60, that's a given)/how things are going? Anyone want to take me up on my dew offer? Is everything running well?

Oh and if you are at Phoenix, don't forget to stop by team 294's pits and nominate someone for our GP award

Stuck at home
-Daniel

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Well Phx this year is looking like its gonna be a great regional, a lot of great designs, friendly teams and awesome strategys, some teams to watch 980, 60,80,987 and i don't want to be partial but team 498 was looking great too, please everyone post to agree/disagree and to add other teams but over all, every team could be a contender.

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Yeah, if we were there I bet we could do a lot better. LOL :D Good luck everyone!

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Cool, thanks. Did you happen to see 294 (3-pronged grabber)? I'm extremely nervous because they were supposed to make major repairs to the arm today (involving taking it apart, maybe machining something, and putting it back together again). I'm also nervous because wheather or not we go to championships is largely based on this (we have payed the entry fee but we may drop out).

-Daniel

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We had a practice match w/ them and it wasn't working then,but right after that match 294 was on the practice field in the pits and i thought i saw it pick up a tetra and cap a goal. Ill find out more today.

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Does anyone know how team 1212 is doing? I am a college student and was not able to go to the Az regional this weekend. Thx

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Any word on today's awards/rankings?

[edit]Not to mention 294's progress?[/edit]

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Actually, 60 is not doing so well. You are beating them:
http://www2.usfirst.org/2005comp/Eve.../rankings.html
http://www2.usfirst.org/2005comp/Events/AZ/matches.html

Edit, these standing may not be accurate, see daniel's post below.

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The rankings say we are 2-3-0, but we really are 4-5-0, nor were we ever 2-3-0, we were 2-2-0, than 3-2-0.

It seems like all of these are backwards, I got a PM from Ken Loyd that said we are really 5-4-0.

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After nine matches here are eight really nice robots in no particular order: 498, 980, 1492, 1266, 580, 294, 987, 60. All are very nice cappers. Tomorrow will be FUN!

Ken

PS 1212 is doing very well.

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Good to hear we're on the list :) . Would you happen to know if/when the rankings are going to be fixed? How about awards?

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Yea some of those matches on the first website are wrong like for instance Q42 the final match of the day the red aliance accually won 28 - 27 but it says the blue won so i dont know whats wrong

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Alliance selections should be over by now. I wonder if they'll load those and update the last few matches on the rankings (11th=good for us but our last match was against 60).

-Daniel

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So who were the regional/award winners?

-Daniel

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I was wondering what the alliance parings were as well. I was wondering how each one did. I was wondering if the FIRST website would update the match results as well.

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It appears to have been updated, but the matches are wrong. For example, look at SF 1-1, where an alliance playes itself.

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look at the finals where 1212 is vs 1212 so that makes very little sense to me. O well we will have to see when someone comes back from the regional.

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Well, I am quite annoyed at the
A. Weird formatting of the matches
B. The fact that FIRST has not yet posted the awards, and
C. That no one is home yet (curse my impatience).

-Daniel

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So who won the Az regional? Does anyone know considering people are posting scores from Az but no results on who won

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It's been about 4 hours since the regional ended and there's no scores or match results.

It's been about 7 days since last week's regionals and most have no scores or match results.

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The match results for phoenix are seriously messed up. It shows 980 (and their partners) winning two quarterfinal matches in a row, but it does not show them playing again after that. Someone from Cactus 498 is on right now, hopefully they'll discover this thread and post.

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I was at the Regional, so I'll post what I remember.

#1 at the end of qualifiers was 980 (Thunderbots) with a 9-3 record. There were 4 other teams also with 9-3 records (555, 842, 498, 1492) at the end, with rankings in that order. The other 3 in the top 8 were 991, 60, and I can't remember the other team.

The Regional Champions were 1492, 555, and 1324. The other finalists were 987, 991, and 1212.

The highest score at the Regional was 112 to 13, set by 498 (us), 1492, and 1290. Second highest was 84 set by 980, 498 (us), and 96.

842 won the Chairman's award. 60 won the Engineering Inspiration award.

I thought the Regional was awesome, but we were doing pretty well, so that adds to it (we scored over 60 points in 4 of our matches).

Don't believe alot of what is posted on FIRST about the Regional right now, the rankings and scores are way off on there.

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I'm not so sure I would have agreed with you yesterday ;p We got the bugs worked out of our system by the 5th match but had a terrible run of bad luck with alliance penalties until the elims. And who would've ever thought we could get stuck inside the goals? We sure didn't ;p. I think the beginner's luck has finally worn off. :(

We did win 2 awards the first night though. Dr. Hobbs won the teacher of the year award. Hopefully this means he won't get fired for letting the team turn his classroom into a chaotic workshop of terror. I think a lot of non-robotics students were put off by the piles scrap metal and tetras covering their desks on Monday mornings.

Here's my summary/commentary of the regional:
28 teams is small, but not too small! It seemed like we got to play with and/or against just about every team there. It was a lot of fun :) Also, in this game, only not planning an alliance strategy will hurt you. Despite treating our 2nd-to-last match no differently than any other, no amount of planning could stop us from being clobbered 112 to 13. Congrats to 498, our neighbors 1290, and the AZ Champions 1492 for capping all 9 goals before our eyes. That was the coolest match we've ever lost! :D

I'd also like to point out that 1266, the Devil Duckies, had a really great robot this year. So good, every time they played they got hit hard and often by defensive teams, to the point where in one match their end zone was filled with their tetras from missed stack attempts due to interference. I think we all can understand how frustrating it can be when your team's robot is being knocked around and can't get anything accomplished in a match, over and over again. Despite this, their team stayed in high spirits and kept on adopting out their little duckies to everyone, and I really think they deserve a ton of recognition. They earned the sportmanship award more than any team I've ever seen in my three years in FIRST. Great job Duckies!

I'd also also like to point out Team 1011, Team Crush, who despite not having a working robot for the last few prelims, remained very spirited in the center of the stands. In a regional with only 28 teams they made a positive impact on the atmosphere for everyone around them. Go Team Crush!

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Team 842 Falcon Robotics, Carl Hayden Community High School as the Chairman's Winner. That was us. The rest is a blurr, I am so happy.

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Sounds great, I'm sorry I had to miss it.

Does anyone know if 294 won any awards?

I can't get in contact with anybody, so I'm still in the dark.

-Daniel

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Daniel,

There were definitely some scoring system anomalies at the Arizona Regional and the information being posted as of 3/12/2005 10:00EST is questionable. Here are some of the awards that I’m aware of. Your team did win one!
High Score was 112 and that alliance got all eight triple plays!

Arizona Regional Awards

Imagery Award – Team 64
Radio Shack Innovation in Control – Team 294
Xerox Creativity – Team 980
Delphi Drive Tomorrows Technology – Team 1212
Kleiner, Perkins, Caufield and Byers – Team 1266
Judge's Award – Team 1401
Website – Team 64
Autodesk Visualization – Team 64
Woodie Flowers Award – William Bennett Team 1011
General Motors Industrial Design – Team 498
Motorola Quality – Team 64
Johnson and Johnson Sportsmanship – Team 1266
DaimlerChrysler Team Spirit – Team 1492
Judges Award – Team 624
Rookie Inspiration – Team 1643
Rookie All Star – Team 1527
Highest Rookie Seed – Team 1633
Safety Award – Team 624
Safety Honorable Mention – Teams 842, 64, 1401, 96
Regional Finalists – Teams 991, 987, 1212
Regional Champions – Teams 555, 1492, 1324
Engineering Inspiration – Team 60
Regional Chairman’s Winner – Team 842

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There was definitely something wrong with the scoring system at Phoenix. During a couple matches on Friday, the qualifying points awarded to us in the ranking system were the number of penalty points deducted from the other alliance's score. The pit admin (or whoever was doing the scoring) even told us at one point they couldn't do anything about it, even though it was seriously skewing the rankings. I think they eventually resolved it, but I am still not entirely confident with the final scores at the end of the qualifying matches.

Nonetheless, it was still a spectactular regional, and I would just like to thank our finalist partners 587 and 1212. I hope to play again with 587 in Vegas! The winning alliance was definitely impressive and they certainly displayed a lot of class by calling their timeout to allow 587 to fix their arm. It was an honor losing to them!

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thanks for the shout-out 1212. we love the holy hamster!!! though we are 'sworn enemies.' lol. but hey, if our two mascots were to 'breed', what would we get out of it? hehe....ur team was awesome too!

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Would you become the horned hamsters, or the divine duckies? Nice job with that multiple capping arm, it worked nicely until everyone started to focus a robot on hitting yours the whole match.

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The purgatory d***sters?

Anyways, if our team is going to Phoenix next year, I won't make the same mistake twice. A thousand thanks to Don Knight for the award updates.

-Daniel

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Looks like the edit feature has timed out...

I meant to say 987 instead of 587 in my original post. I apologize!

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thank u very much. we worked hard on it. I talked to my group and we like the divine duckies. that's an awesome new child. hehe....