double goal bots willl achieve 90 point rounds at the nationals....my prediction, and they will be picking!

To continue on with this:

The doube goal bots will be picking the ball bots....

When you have 2 goals in your control, and you have a ball bot to fill it up even more...the match is pretty much won

I agree that double goal bots can score 90 points on occasion. It is done and can be done. But the seeding matches are a cumulation of points over a period of matches. It needs to be done consistantly.

Atleast we agree James!

MMR #1 Seed: Wildstang (111)

What can they do?

1 goal + balls........

Once we got the glitches out of our Ball Collecting Mechanism we went from 25th Seed to 8th Seed over a few matches...

ive been hearing a few arguments against ball bots that are not true in all cases. Someone mentioned that the ball bots all had 2 wheel drive and wheel chair wheels. No offense, but you are mistaken..... do a little research if you dont believe me.
and someone else mentioned that ball bots are nothing if they dont have a goal to dump it in.......... theres many ball bots out there who dont have the capability to hold the goal, but there are also many who do, and many of those can hold thier goal with no problem.
While i do agree that a ball bot goal bot alliance is the best... that is if your definition of a goal bot is one that only hold goals, and a ball bot can only pick up balls..... but having two ball bots that can hold one goal each would probably be an even better arrangement... i am also a fan of very powerful drive trains, i dont think speed it as important of a factor (i know there are situations where speed means everything, and if you dont get to the goal first theres no way to get it back.... im just saying in general torque is more useful)

i guess what im saying is that im seeing a lot of labeling.... everyone is forgetting that there is something in between a ball bot and a goal bot, some robots out there that can do both...... and if you took off the ball mechanisms you would still have a decent goal bot

in the end it all comes down to strategy anyway

I hope that is a joke....

im not going to pick on anyone, if you read up you will see it

2 ball bots CAN beat 2 goal grabbers, no doubt about it. STRATEGY IS EVERYTHING. In fact 2 ball bots have the advantage of the other robots believing they have an easy victory. Any non-believers can watch the Midwest Regional and watch 930 and 857 beat 2 goal grabbers.

By the way, nice performance at MMR to the Technokats, Team 45.

I agree. All you need is good strategy and a goal . . but sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

goal grabbers can score 90 points, easily(even for a bot like ours). If you can control two goals, you can let the other team get that last goal. Then, your partner can spend the time blocking, pushing, basically hindering the other alliance with the other goal. It is safe to say that the opposing alliance is going to go for the two goals you have, so if you hold your own, you can get 90 points (1 goal + 2 robots(30 pts) vs. 2 goals + 2 robots(40 pts)). the score can be higher depending on human player accuracy(you can even shoot for the opposing teams goal for an easier shot and 3 points per ball.)

Caveat:in this strategy, do not put more than 9 balls in opposing team's scored goal for obvious reasons

In this case, chances are the two goal bot won't make it back to the endzone (unless they have a tether), allowing the opposing alliance to simply put one ball in the goal for the win.

all i have to say is this....we are a two goal bot, we grab on the fly, when we are anchored WE AREN'T GOING ANYWHERE, and we have tethers for both ends....we are able to go from 1.5 ft/s to 14 ft/s using CVT's, and those same CVTs power our winching system capable of pulling 400 pounds.....90 points is very achievable...stop by 190's pits and see the CVT's, we will have a prototyped model on display for interaction, as well as a powerpoint presentation to show the bots attributes

Wildstang could grab 2 goals... and do balls..

Anyways, we managed to seed 5th at MMR and we are a 2 goal bot... but there seemed to be a lack of good ball getters and the average QP's were quite low compared to other regionals...

whoever said that two goal bots scoring 40 points will always win hasn't faced a decent ball bot. The opposing team having one good ball bot can have his/her alliance get one goal, they can fill it with 20-25 balls, and one robot can get back and the goal robots are beat! Goal bots, on the other hand, are limited to their human player balls and two goals, plus their robots. This means 2 goal bots can never get more than 50 points on their own as an alliance :)

Just putting something up there to think about.