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Joe Matt 17-03-2005 10:46

The Search for 111 & 71
 
Bring me pictures and descriptions of 111 & 71 and you will be loved. :)

Daniel Brim 17-03-2005 13:04

Re: The Search for 111 & 71
 
Does this help? I wonder what new innovation team 71 thought of...

Dave Flowerday 17-03-2005 13:38

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A little birdy told me that there's been a full picture of our robot buried somewhere on our website for at least a week... ;)

http://www.wildstang.org

David Kelly 17-03-2005 13:46

Re: The Search for 111 & 71
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JosephM
Bring me pictures and descriptions of 111 & 71 and you will be loved. :)

both robots are off the heezy

Matt 17-03-2005 13:47

Re: The Search for 111 & 71
 
here is the team 111 on there website

http://www.wildstang.org/main/history.php?year=2005

Swampdude 17-03-2005 13:48

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<3


whakojacko 17-03-2005 13:54

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WoW. What the weight of that thing?

Dave Flowerday 17-03-2005 13:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by whakojacko
WoW. What the weight of that thing?

We actually shipped under weight by a few pounds this year (first time ever, I think).

Joe Matt 17-03-2005 14:22

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Originally Posted by David Kelly
both robots are off the heezy

The Mac first, now the slang? Is this the new, cool David Kelly?

Frank(Aflak) 17-03-2005 14:46

Re: The Search for 111 & 71
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Flowerday
A little birdy told me that there's been a full picture of our robot buried somewhere on our website for at least a week... ;)

http://www.wildstang.org

http://www.wildstang.org/main/robotpix/robot2005.jpg

oops.

beat to it.

looks awesome.

I miss FIRST.

activemx 17-03-2005 14:48

Re: The Search for 111 & 71
 
Come on now. Boilermaker as internet access. Some one can upload a picture of 71 ;) Fill us in you guys!~

tkwetzel 17-03-2005 15:49

Re: The Search for 111 & 71
 
On that page with the webcam that JosephM posted there is a link to the beast.

I think the human player is loading the base with a tetra?

Joel J 17-03-2005 15:56

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By the looks of it they load their base with 4 tetras from the human player (5 seconds per tetra), then score them 2 at a time (10 seconds to score two). So, if they ran uninterrupted in a match, they could score up to ~12 tetras. With opposition, it looks like they'll be able to do 4-6. Not bad.

BTW: What team scores tetras 4 at a time? Once they got it going, it was pretty cool to watch.

activemx 17-03-2005 16:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joel J.
By the looks of it they load their base with 4 tetras from the human player (5 seconds per tetra), then score them 2 at a time (10 seconds to score two). So, if they ran uninterrupted in a match, they could score up to ~12 tetras. With opposition, it looks like they'll be able to do 4-6. Not bad.

BTW: What team scores tetras 4 at a time? Once they got it going, it was pretty cool to watch.

997 Can score 4+ tetras at a time.

edit: Saw 71 in action. Seems like they have swerve drive. Move around pretty quickly and score pretty quickly too

Tytus Gerrish 17-03-2005 16:46

Re: The Search for 111 & 71
 
i am willing to wager that that there is a good portion of 2024 aluminum on that machine

AshleyD 17-03-2005 16:58

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I've finally seen both 111 and 71 ! I haven't seen Wildstang stack 18 yet but they're probably holding out until tomorrow ;) and 71 looks great, they missed a few practice matches this morning (*confusion and suspense*) but they repeatedly stack two at a time on any goal with this cool circular cone thing to stabilize the tetras. It's sooo cool, they're playing right now actually. Competition tomorrow is going to be crazy, I can't wait!

activemx 17-03-2005 17:01

Re: The Search for 111 & 71
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AshleyD
I've finally seen both 111 and 71 ! I haven't seen Wildstang stack 18 yet but they're probably holding out until tomorrow ;) and 71 looks great, they missed a few practice matches this morning (*confusion and suspense*) but they repeatedly stack two at a time on any goal with this cool circular cone thing to stabilize the tetras. It's sooo cool, they're playing right now actually. Competition tomorrow is going to be crazy, I can't wait!

what about baxter, 45 and all the other cool teams out there.

Stephen Kowski 17-03-2005 18:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by activemx
what about baxter, 45 and all the other cool teams out there.

45: http://www.technokats.org/2005gallery.htm

16: http://baxterbombsquad.com/Dialup/Robot.html - at least their drive train....andymark doesn't have anything on those sweet weider normal forcers....now im just waiting for the weider trick wheels :)

MasonMM 17-03-2005 23:27

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12 tetras by the beast huh? you said they drop two at a time... so is that on 6 different goals? or the nearest 2 goals to the human loader? can they use the auto loader at all? i'd really love to see a closer up pic if someone had one to share. :)

How's 111 performing, i'm real curious about there bot looking at the pictures... i see omni wheels i think, but they are point perpendicual to the arm direction... so does that arm rotate on a turret? or is there some secret in the drivetrain?

Alex Cormier 18-03-2005 14:13

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well 71 is looking amazing, carry 4 tetras and cap 2 at a time while haveing 2 bots hit em! very nice guys.

Swampdude 18-03-2005 15:07

Re: The Search for 111 & 71
 
After seeing the "secrets" of 71's success movies. Has anyone been "approached" before there matches today? I think I'd be a little concerned if I saw them on my opponent match list Friday morning. They're probably doing their scouting with a violin case in hand.
It's not their drivers and the robot people! Don't worry, there's a FIRST protection program you can enter if you beat them! I know of 1 team that's living it up in Aruba right now! So cut it out, and tell em your not gonna take it anymore!

BTW Bill, I'm on your side OK? nothing personal... really! ugh...

*packing my bags*

Heretic121 18-03-2005 15:24

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these are my honest opinions of both 111 & 71 as of what i saw from 2 matches from both teams...

111 - fast and thier arm is rediculously fast... if they drivers get a little bit better with positioning i think they will be very dominant.

71 - not as dominant as they have been in past years. The design is great, but from the 2 matches i saw they only scored 4 and 6 respectively. i know the 4 match they had thier arm get caught up which im not sure what it was about.

other teams that look very good 234, 16, 269.

a lot of teams have great bots and once thier drivers get completely setteled they will be watched very closely and very good competition

Don Wright 19-03-2005 08:40

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TTIWWP

(This Thread Is Worthless Without Pictures) ;)

Well, more pictures anyway...or movies...even better...

Maestro PK 20-03-2005 04:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2000vfr800
TTIWWP

(This Thread Is Worthless Without Pictures) ;)

Well, more pictures anyway...or movies...even better...

Agreed. Does ANYONE have any good pictures/video of team 71? I have been scouring the web for the last 1/2 hour and have found nothing. Lots of chicken loving to whoever gets some good stuff on here.

Captain Rich 20-03-2005 10:27

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I'll take my digital camera to Chicago this weekend, but untill then, no promises.

Ryan Dognaux 20-03-2005 10:47

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This was the best one I could find on my camera. If I had the team camera with me, I'd be able to put a better one up. Basically they have a huge huge crab drive, and the PVC arm with the PVC cone with a large gripper inside of it. They load tetras via human player, they usually put four on there and then they'll grab them two at a time from their robot base to cap a goal.

Captain Rich 20-03-2005 11:43

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They love their PVC

JAH 20-03-2005 12:28

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I have a ton of pictures of 71 during their first practice match at Purdue. They have yet to put on their side plates with their number and what not, but sure enough, it is them. They, as many have said, load 4 tetras on their robot in the human player zone and then the arm picks up two tets at a time and they cap. Pretty good crab drive, especially since it is their first time doing crab a member on the team told me. Impressive as always, it's too bad we didn't beat them in semifinals. 1/4 of a inch is what decided the match. It took our row away and gave them a row which won them the series. We had a blue tetra placed in the corner goal on our side, and we blocked 71's attempt to put two red tetras on our corner goal and they dropped the tets and one hit the ground, while the other hid the plexy glass side wall and just one part of the tetra was in our goal. We thought since it was being supported off the side wall, it wouldn't count and we didn't recap the goal and that lost the series for us. We were 1-1 and it was the deciding match. It was great competition though.

Here are some of the pics...




Captain Rich 20-03-2005 12:35

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What do the side things do? Do they fit in the box or deploy during the match? Tell me tell me tell me!

JAH 20-03-2005 12:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Rich
What do the side things do? Do they fit in the box or deploy during the match? Tell me tell me tell me!


The side things come down during the match and act like bumpers to help them from tipping over, if I remember correctly.

JAH 20-03-2005 12:51

Re: The Search for 111 & 71
 
I just found another good one of 111 on the field after one of their matches.


Karthik1 20-03-2005 13:25

Re: The Search for 111 & 71
 
Here is one of 71 falling:


Does anyone have one of 71 riding on their battery

Maestro PK 20-03-2005 13:39

Re: The Search for 111 & 71
 
Thanks a ton guys!!! Those are some great shots!

Looks like team 71 has come up with a pretty powerful design once again. Can they use both the human and auto loader? Also, I noticed they store tetras right there on the front of their bot -- has anyone knocked them off before they've been able to stack them on a goal?

Ryan Dognaux 20-03-2005 14:52

Re: The Search for 111 & 71
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maestro PK
Thanks a ton guys!!! Those are some great shots!

Looks like team 71 has come up with a pretty powerful design once again. Can they use both the human and auto loader? Also, I noticed they store tetras right there on the front of their bot -- has anyone knocked them off before they've been able to stack them on a goal?

71 could probably use the autoloader if they just wanted to grab one tetra, but they don't. They use the human loaders and usually put four on before going out to score. It's incredibly hard to knock tetras off of them, but it has been done. They have a lip in the front of the robot or something that stops tetras from falling off if they're hit from behind. And on the sides they have their stablizers. Many teams try to just knock their tetras off by hitting the tetras with their arms. Many times robots would get hooked onto their tetras, which would make 71 unable to lift them from thier robot.

psquared89 20-03-2005 15:15

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What I want to see happen to 71 or even 469 is for an opposing team to put one of their tetras on top, what would they do then? :D

Maestro PK 20-03-2005 17:56

Re: The Search for 111 & 71
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by psquared89
What I want to see happen to 71 or even 469 is for an opposing team to put one of their tetras on top, what would they do then? :D

I can see it now: a new strategy in our playbook -- "Cap the Capper".

I can't wait to see how these guys perform, it's a really interesting design and it seems people have mostly been very impressed with it. They did win Boilermaker and someone said they were voted "Best Offensive Robot" at that competition (I'm not sure who actually set up the vote, not FIRST obviously). In any case, photos like these just make me all the more anxious to go to nationals.

Ryan Dognaux 20-03-2005 18:07

Re: The Search for 111 & 71
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maestro PK
I can see it now: a new strategy in our playbook -- "Cap the Capper".

This might actually become possible - remember last year when teams would cap the giant basket robots designed to catch balls? It usually worked.

tkwetzel 20-03-2005 18:21

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I had discussed capping a robot that stored tetras on it's base with some people at the UTC regional. I wasn't going to say anything here, because it would work so much better against a team who isn't expecting it and I had already told a few people. If it was unexpected, I think it would be a worthwhile move on some of the robots that do this, however, Beatty would have been harder to cap than the original robot I saw that did this because Beatty's stack is always in the front of their bot with their arm behind it. The robot I saw at UTC capped with it's arm on the side of the robot closest to the goal, so you could come up from behind while they were capping a goal and cap thier remaining stack.

AndyB 20-03-2005 19:12

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The team 71 bot was our alliance teammate in the Boilermaker Regional.

They have a strafing drivesystem that is very manueverable but can be a bit tippy due to its large arm. Its arm contains a 3 prong claw at the end with a circular rim around it that is attached to the arm. They just put the rim around the tetras that it holds on its base and picks up 2 at a time. It is a very innovative design and also won a few awards.

BTW, that picture is from the final round of the Boilermaker Finals. Somehow, we still ended up winning.

It was pretty funny when their battery fell out and they were riding on it.

Also, it would be almost impossible to put a tetra on theirs because they keep their arm relativly close to or on their stack of tetras.

71 - 1024 - 269
Taking Home the Gold
March 19, 2005

P.S. I want to say thanks to everyone who competed at the Boilermaker Regional for being such good competitions. I know I made some new friends and overall, you all made it a great expierience.

Pin Man 20-03-2005 19:20

Re: The Search for 111 & 71
 
what are their secrets?!?!

Curt Henderson 25-03-2005 20:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pin Man
what are their secrets?!?!

The best strategy I saw was for a team to wait for Team 71 to load up the tetras and when they are not paying attention, take or knock the tetras off their base. You have to be discrete in dong this as they can place their arm on their tetra stack and basically clamp them in place and prevent any movement of the tetra stack.

Good luck and remember.........you didn't hear it from me.

fredgie 28-03-2005 00:42

Re: The Search for 111 & 71
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maestro PK
I can see it now: a new strategy in our playbook -- "Cap the Capper".

I can't wait to see how these guys perform, it's a really interesting design and it seems people have mostly been very impressed with it. They did win Boilermaker and someone said they were voted "Best Offensive Robot" at that competition (I'm not sure who actually set up the vote, not FIRST obviously). In any case, photos like these just make me all the more anxious to go to nationals.

It's been done, but their response is to just grab the top tet and fling it away. It comes down to what is more important? Costing 71 a few seconds in a match, or placing that tet on a goal and getting 3 pts.

P.S. as a driver for team 537, I got lots of first hand contact with both teams at Midwest. WOOT WOOT.


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