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BaldwinNYRookie 28-04-2005 15:03

Re: Championships location from 07 and onwards
 
How about nationals here on long island!! The Nassau Colliseum would be perfect!!

Not2B 28-04-2005 15:24

Re: Championships location from 07 and onwards
 
I think FIRST will be somewhat limited in 2007. They will need a large place to host all the pits, have enought hotel rooms, and it will need to be next to a large body of water...

You know, because of the "water game"...

I'm going to go hide from the readers at large now, as various things will be thrown in my general direction.

dhitchco 28-04-2005 15:58

Re: Championships location from 07 and onwards
 
Has anybody plotted the geographic location of all the teams as well as the relative size of their teams over the past couple of years? Might be a good exercise to optimize the location of the nationals for the out-years.

Also, think about it from FIRST's perspective. Wouldn't you like to sign a long-term contract with one venue, with one drayage company, etc for five years? Makes a lot less headache than changing it every year.

I spoke with a guy from Disney down on the floor and he told me that FIRST is actually "too big" for a Disney Resort. Isn't that a GREAT thing....signs of success.

But I agree that a midwestern city (Memphis or St. Louis) might be a good location for a "convention" the size of FIRST Nationals. ps: FedEx hub is Memphis......get it?

santosh 28-04-2005 17:07

Re: Championships location from 07 and onwards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cory
San Francisco actually has a VERY large convention center. I don't think it'd work for a number of reasons though.

It would be cool for nats to be 30 min from my house :rolleyes:

It isn't as cracked up as you would thing. Sure it can cut down on some people's travel expenses. But for us, it involved some of our parents coming down to the Dome and embarrassing us just a little.

You guys saw nothing when you saw those homeless people. We were in one of the best parts of town.

I just think it is really fun to be in the same spot where Michael Vick has ran around. This could be the same for Indiana and Peyton, but personally since I am from here, Vick is much more exciting to watch.

Back on topic, 1 of the biggest improvements that FIRST and the Dome could make would be opening all the gates for enterance. It sucked having to walk all th way around the Dome multiple times a day to get to the parking lot.

IMDWalrus 28-04-2005 17:25

Re: Championships location from 07 and onwards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Not2B
I think FIRST will be somewhat limited in 2007. They will need a large place to host all the pits, have enought hotel rooms, and it will need to be next to a large body of water...

You know, because of the "water game"...

I'm going to go hide from the readers at large now, as various things will be thrown in my general direction.

Be quiet, you.

We're getting the water game NEXT year. Get your facts straight! ;)

DUCKIE 28-04-2005 17:35

Re: Championships location from 07 and onwards
 
I seriously doubt that the competition will leave the continental US [although Toronto might be fun] as it is hard enough getting the international bots here without incident... imagine how much fun it would be to transport hundreds of bots that far... and through all that red-tape.

My Location Guesses
1.)EPCOT - it was just awsome to be there... seemed fitting somehow that this big push of math and science was happening at the site where people go to see math and science. [heard from someone that they were/are interested in getting us back down there.]
2.)Indianapolis - was there for NCYC a few years ago... they have PLENTY of space in the convention center for the pits and confrences... and it is attached to the RCA dome [spectators would not have to go outside] Also has some large hotels right nearby... not sure about the resteraunt situation though... as we ate many meals in at the hotel as a diocese. Did walk to the hard rock one night though. Centralized location.
3.)Atlanta - It is a wonderful location... but i did not feel that comfortable walking around. Even just over to the Underground. I also do not know much else to do down there that we have not already done.

Location Wish List
1.)EPCOT [I think you know where i want to be.]
2.)Washington DC [They have to have the space somewhere... would be a nice trip for international teams... plenty of free/safe things to do {ie-smithsonian museums} also would bring the program closer to the government... maybe get some funding help to start more teams.]
3.) DEAN'S ISLAND!!!! [It would be kinda snug... we could all bring tents and camp-out. {lots of barges for the pit areas} but hey... wouldn't that be something to talk about.]

Koko Ed 28-04-2005 18:09

Re: Championships location from 07 and onwards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DUCKY
I seriously doubt that the competition will leave the continental US [although Toronto might be fun] as it is hard enough getting the international bots here without incident... imagine how much fun it would be to transport hundreds of bots that far... and through all that red-tape.

My Location Guesses
1.)EPCOT - it was just awsome to be there... seemed fitting somehow that this big push of math and science was happening at the site where people go to see math and science. [heard from someone that they were/are interested in getting us back down there.]
2.)Indianapolis - was there for NCYC a few years ago... they have PLENTY of space in the convention center for the pits and confrences... and it is attached to the RCA dome [spectators would not have to go outside] Also has some large hotels right nearby... not sure about the resteraunt situation though... as we ate many meals in at the hotel as a diocese. Did walk to the hard rock one night though. Centralized location.
3.)Atlanta - It is a wonderful location... but i did not feel that comfortable walking around. Even just over to the Underground. I also do not know much else to do down there that we have not already done.

Location Wish List
1.)EPCOT [I think you know where i want to be.]
2.)Washington DC [They have to have the space somewhere... would be a nice trip for international teams... plenty of free/safe things to do {ie-smithsonian museums} also would bring the program closer to the government... maybe get some funding help to start more teams.]
3.) DEAN'S ISLAND!!!! [It would be kinda snug... we could all bring tents and camp-out. {lots of barges for the pit areas} but hey... wouldn't that be something to talk about.]

I can just see it now: The competition ends and Dean sends evryone home at the end of his speech by command:
"I WANT ALL OF YOU PEOPLE TO GET OFF MY LAWN!" :p

BaldwinNYRookie 28-04-2005 21:27

Re: Championships location from 07 and onwards
 
Washington DC would be great! If you've never been there... it's nice! Even the subways... they're like cathedrals! Great choice! Museums, monuments, history... a highly educational place for highly educated students. But I would be a little annoyed if the President decided to show up and make a speech. I won't say that I like or dislike him, but I think by now everyone will agree, he's not very good at... well... talking.

EricH 28-04-2005 21:47

Re: Championships location from 07 and onwards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BaldwinNYRookie
Even the subways... they're like cathedrals! [

I was in DC about a week after nationals last year. If you think the subways are like cathedrals, I think they remodeled them (or I may be confusing them with the NYC subways). Then again, I only rode one line, so what do I know?
Also, do you really want to deal with crowds that are there just to see DC?

Mike33 28-04-2005 22:04

Re: Championships location from 07 and onwards
 
anyway, i hope that nationals is not in the state of michigan. even though i wont be in high school next year, the road trips make it fun. but not too long

Conor Ryan 28-04-2005 22:11

Re: Championships location from 07 and onwards
 
Well its easy to find a good space for pits. And its easy to find a good space for the competition field. But its hard to find a space for a pit area AND a Field. Not to mention some confrence space.

I see it staying in Atlanta for a long time. Remember they were only using 1/3 (maybe a little more or less) of the A building in the congress center for pits alone, and with the walls they have there they could open it up more, thus creating a bigger pit area. Or they could make it harder to qualify for the championship so only the teams with winning records at regionals could qualify.

Allison K 29-04-2005 00:40

Re: Championships location from 07 and onwards
 
I'm not really for holding championships in Detroit (of course I'm not really against it either, which makes the issue neutral I suppose) but if FIRST wants publicity I think Detroit would be the place. They try so hard to improve their image that I think if they ever got the chance to host champs they would shout it to the world.

Disney would be my first choice (no matter how unlikely it is I'll hold out hope).

Logistically, I think Atlanta makes the most sense as they've worked out all (well, most) of the bugs and are on the way to holding a perfect event.

mtaman02 29-04-2005 01:56

Re: Championships location from 07 and onwards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IMDWalrus
Be quiet, you.

We're getting the water game NEXT year. Get your facts straight! ;)


Yeah Dave mentioned to me about us needing or having to build hovercrafts

I explicitly asked for a water game next year and he said they'll be hovercrafts so who knows =)

dlavery 29-04-2005 14:52

Re: Championships location from 07 and onwards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slickguy2007
I am sure FIRST has been thinking about where the National event will be held after our time in Atlanta is up. Who says it will be in the US? It might be moved to somewhere outside the US. We won't know unless someone..*cough* Dave Lavery...*cough*.. wants to volunteer some information. :D


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Kyle 29-04-2005 14:55

Re: Championships location from 07 and onwards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dlavery
067.15-07.8440 150.12-13.9620

Why do I think those are locations for something on Mars?


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