217 Vs. 229 - Which Bot is Prettier?
 

To settle a friendly arguement - Which of the Division By Chicken robots is the sexier of the two?


{Pic from this thread}


My arguement:

217 - Thor, because it sticks out in a crowd. The tower is located aft, which gives the robot a very laid-back and relaxed appearance. The chrome body is nicely offset by the green four-bar arm and the blue tetra grabber. With visible green whiskers and a very pointed lance, it almost looks like the tetra grabber is trying to flap its wings and fly away. The green 217 on the base is very visible from all angles, and the (hidden) wheels are very classy. Wiring by a dedicated student gives the interior a very clean appearance, and sharp angles make this THE bot of the new millenium.

229 - Denominator, though still very pretty, just can't match up to the beauty of 217. The gold and forest green are very majestic, but if you want to see this color combination, all you have to do is go outside into a forest in Fall. The tower is located forward, anticipating the start of the match. The skirt (or kilt) around its base looks like something Dave Lavery would wear to Nationals for a box of Krispie Kremes. It's elegant in a classic sort of way, like a Coke bottle. The tetra grabber has the added distinction of looking like a hockey stick, which scores extra points by the judge from Hockeytown. It appears that a Chicken was living in the base and used the wiring for the nest. Bonus score for the golden cross and pretty numbers, plus sexy wheels
Altogether, looks like an award that should be given to 217 symbolizing how pretty THEIR robot looks.

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229. That green and gold looks sharp on one of the sharpest looking robots this year.

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I cant choose, but if there was a gun to my head I would say 229. I love the colors, and the bot was great to.

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Dont forget the ThunderChickens had the sweet ThunderChicken flags on the arm!

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I voted 217, but was probably influenced by the fact that I got to see 217 in person (a lot, because they were next to us in the pits in Detroit), and saw 229 only in picture. And because 217 lives more or less next door (less than 10 miles away). And because I am partial to neon green.

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I would vote for 229, but only if JVN was standing next to it. :)

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217... it seems more elegant to me and the colors work well together on it.

Re: 217 Vs. 229 - Which Bot is Prettier?
 

Aren't there rules about giving an award to your own team? You say that 217 should get an award, but you are obviously biased, as you are a Thunderchicken.

If I had to choose, I would say they are equal.

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I think...Dan Swando's got a lot of time on his hands. Want to do my homework? ;)

On an imagery level, both fit in well with their team's coloring and brand, but one doesn't stick out too much further than the other in terms of "going to the extra mile to be prettier" than the other.

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Sorry Dan, but I've got to go with 229.

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229, because those are Packer colors, which no self-respecting Wisconsinite can deny let alone vote against...even if they don't give a hoot for professional football...
[woot woot, go Notre Dame!]

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Actually, it looks like about 5 for 229 (now) to 3 for 217 (now). This is not counting the starting post favoring 217, as the post maker voted for his own robot... These values are in the thread, not the poll.

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217 hands down. The robots are equal and the tie-breaker is the field coach. Paul is much prettier than JVN.

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217. I like the ligher green.

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I'd say 229's bot looks sweeter, but......

Paul Copioli would soundly kick JVN's butt in a beauty contest any day of the week.

I propose with the magic of Photoshop, we test this theory out some day.

I also forsee great opportunities for an IRI Talent Show skit here.....:p

Re: 217 Vs. 229 - Which Bot is Prettier?
 

it all depends on who was standing closer, if it were jvn, 217, if it were Paul copioil 229...

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I'm liking the color scheme of the arm, so I'd say 217

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Thunderchickens all the way, I like the bold colors that they use. You will not miss them in a crowd. Both great looking and operating robots.

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I have to go with 229. Not only do they look cool, but they are a tough competitor too. Congrats 217 and 229 on a season well done!


GO 1403!!!

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One more thought here. The last time I saw 217 was on Einstein. 229 was in the crate where the light isn't as good. Maybe I voted for the wrong one based on lighting ... hmmmmm ...... :D

I just can't help myself. Sorry (to everyone on 229 except the cueball). Congrats to both teams on an awesome season.

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i think that 217's division championship and regional championship would also make them a "tough competitor". just my opinion (also, Thor has Ratpack paint on the green peice of the four-bar)

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217, for the sole reason that I kinda have to strain my eyes to see the 229 on the green in that picture.

That, and everyone knows that to have gold on a FIRST robot these days, it must be BLINGIN' gold. Matte finishes don't cut it anymore, folks. Know that.

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229...I love the gold....

I did love the 217 flags though... ;)

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I picked 217 cause if i didn't, Paul would throw a pair of safety glasses at me.


...and I would be shunned from the coop

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229. I love it.

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i love the clean look of the 217 machine. it looks very minimalistic, very elegant. plus i'm a sucker for sheet metal work, and that thunder chicken frame is beautiful.

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I've been told, that beauty is in the eye of the beholder...
Maybe that is why I am partial to Clarkson's green and gold, as worn proudly by Denominator. ;)
Though there is also something to be said for that brushed aluminum look on Thor.

On 229, we tried to take the extra time this year, and go the extra mile to make our robot look professional, and present a positive image. In the past, we have had the "lexan and aluminum" look, which is very nice, but we decided to strive for something more this season. I am happy with the result, and we were glad to field a robot that both our students and our sponsor (Clarkson University) can be proud of. It is amazing what a little love, and a little spraypaint can accomplish.

I think I speak for both teams when I say how incredibly happy I am with this season's collaboration, and the quality of these two amazing machines. As I type this, the vote is 48-47; the fact that this vote is so close speaks volumes about how each of these robots is truly beautiful, while each still being unique.

The accomplishments of each team, while still belonging to that team, bring pride to BOTH teams.
I am as proud of 217's two gold medals, as I am of 229's two silver medals.


Thanks to everyone for their kind words about these two works of art,
(They are art, in my eyes at least.)

John

PS - As far as the "Paul vs. John" debates... he is way prettier than me. I can't even begin to compete.

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wow , only one vote in it



must say i go for 229 though... that gold and green has it for me

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217, , you guys ROCK! ... like i mean dam. .and your robot is sexy.. but i love the other ones paintjob better..

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wow i voted and i broke the tie, this is tight.

I'm with 229, who were the best alliance partners ever! And the Green goes well with the Gold and the Clear just makes it exquisite.

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They both are lovely, elegant, and highly competative bots. I went with 229 in a very nerrow margin.
If it was a whole team appearance contest I would go with 217, but I think 229's bot is just a bit more attractive than 217's.

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I think the bots are pretty equal. However, being an ex-229er I'll have to vote for them. ;)
Congrats on the great season!!

-Kristin

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Uh-oh, is denominator pulling away? Up to an 8-vote lead!!! ;)

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go 229 :P

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*sigh*

Defeated by 229 again :p

Re: 217 Vs. 229 - Which Bot is Prettier?
 

ooo this is hard....why must you guys make us choose???

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Can we have another option in the poll titled "Both Robots"

Lets see... team 217 and team 229 both has two of the best mentors in FIRST... Paul and John. Both team's robot is almost the same. The color scheme goes with their team color. Both robots are very pretty. Both teams are awesome. Both team kicked butt. Both robots were two of the MOST effective robots in Triple Play. I can't vote for just one team.

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I'm gonna have to go with 229 and the darker green and gold. (I might be a little bias in choosing our Curie division Finals alliance partner :D ).

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since 217 registered for IRI...they get my vote :)

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This was the deciding factor for me. I voted 217 also.

The score is now "The Navigators" to "The Navigators" ("79 to 79" for the FIRST-number impaired).

AB

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now it's RoboColt to the Navigators

(this could get interesting)

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yeah, 80 to 79 for the rest of us

Re: 217 Vs. 229 - Which Bot is Prettier?
 

Young grasshopper... you are mistaken. B.O.B. is team 85.

You meant to say: RoboColt to the Navigators

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DANG!

In my quest to show my greatness I have displayed how much I audibly inhale at life. Oh well...back to work.

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81-80.... is close.... say first to 100?

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wow, last time i looked 229 was up by a few.

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82-82 atm, Its a dead heat. Wow....

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IF TEAM 229 WOULD COME TO THE IRI THEN WE COULD HAVE A VOTE ON IT DURING THE AWARDS CEREMONY AND AWARD A 'PRETTIER BOT' TROPHY TO ONE OF THEM.

THAT WOULD REQUIRE 229 SIGNING UP AND COMING TO THE IRI.

229 - BETTER HURRY, ONLY 13 SPACES LEFT. :)

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Believe me, if Denominator would fit in the back of my car and I wasn't currently living in Washington DC for the summer, I would make sure she would be there. She still looks really pretty sitting at Clarkson and helping admissions though. :p

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217 is awsome because metal is always better than any original color

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Its all Tied Up!!!!!

This is closer than the Bush-Gore Election, Florida teams, you get to vote again.

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Unfortunately, most of the 229 college kids are spread out across the country right now, and no one is able to take responsibility for making an "IRI Road Trip" happen. Some of the HS students tried to put something together, but unfortunately it didn't work out. Maybe next year...

I hear you may have some 229 representation anyways, even if there is no 229 robot (FIRSTers are drawn to IRI...). I guess everyone will be content just cheering for the sister team; 217 :). Those chickens are terrific.

Go Thor!
-JV

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BOB to BOB (85-85) as of Friday 0730 indiana time.

(i finally get to do one right...yes!)

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Drat, I guess 116 wont get a chance to beat 229 this year :rolleyes: ;) .
We'll have to settle for beating the other beauty, 217!

okay, wed probably get crushes by either team, but that doesnt matter!

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Just tied it up. 87-87 ("Rancocas Valley Robotics"-"Rancocas Valley Robotics") I have been chearing for CU hockey all my life, why not CU robotics? Plus im on the team :D

JT
229

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I gonna have to go with Ed green and gold is VERY sharp. :D

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229 is so much better

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229 is definitely more appealing to the eye, whereas 217 looks more complicated. I would have to stick with 229, though, just because it has gold and black :yikes: .

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91-90, 229 leading. Wow, it's still amazingly close.

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a CD poll hasn't been this close since...well...ever.

it's just like taledega (sp?)...i just hope there's no bump drafting.

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92-90 to 229....

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with my vote for 217 makes it 94-91. I voted for 217 because i like the clean, sleek look of there robot. Im not saying 229 is bad looking though.

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95 - all, this is impressive, i think we should call it a draw unless you make it first to XXXX. :)

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217, I like the colors and just the word chicken in robot talk

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Gotta be 229, you see the unpainted silver robots all the time. The gold and black is better looking and sexier.

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102-102....
Can't get any closer than that!

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did we or did we not we all agree to this? And does anyone know who was the first to 100? This is way to tight for me to call.

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It's 50/50 thats crazy!!!

Dominator has the color, has the class, and has my vote.

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I voted for Thor, liked the bright color scheme that it had, which made it very recognizable.

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We played with both and 217 is better.

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whell i think 229 is the baet souse it is bold and kind of has a fell like it is saying hay im her look at me

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Go Clarkson!

Ahem... 229

We have pretty good relations with that team since, literally, have of our team was dating half of theirs.

But! Now for real, less-biased reasons.

The entire robot was painted which just... looks better...
The tower was in the middle which looks nicer, plus it gives them a farther reach.
And for some reason, Dark green seems to show up better against a grey carpet than a grey metallic robot... hmmm
Also! The lime green arm and blue hand both seem out of place. If a robot is going to be original metallic, keep it all the same.

So the score is 108 - 107. Clarkson... ahem 229

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111 to 110. Can 229 get back on top?

Clearly I had to go with my Ala Mater. As John said, both Bots are definately a work of art. I think its safe to say Denominator is the finest thing to ever come out of the Clarkson Machine Shop. Really though thats not the greatest of pictures. My favorite part are the golden metalic housing numbers off the front. About the comment on the Lance... Clarkson is known for its Hockey. *grin*

In truth though, I'm still partial of the Baja foam Wings from 03. This is also the closest voting competition I have ever seen. Gratz to both teams for their fine machines.