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Enterprize 02-05-2005 21:31

MIT + Time Travel + Convention
 
MIT is holding its first (and only) Time Travel Convention.
Here's the info:

May 7, 2005, 10:00pm EDT (08 May 2005 02:00:00 UTC)
East Campus Courtyard, MIT
42:21:36.025°N, 71:05:16.332°W
(42.360007,-071.087870 in decimal degrees)

Purpose: Preserve the information of this meeting in the event that future time travellers could visit at some time during their travels.

Thoughts on this or time travel in general?

Geek factor -- 7.5

KenWittlief 02-05-2005 22:01

Re: MIT + Time Travel + Convetion
 
How do they know it will be their only time-travel convention?

I think someone knows more than they are saying!

Alex Pelan 02-05-2005 22:34

Re: MIT + Time Travel + Convetion
 
Why would you need more than one?

Andy A. 02-05-2005 23:59

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Just to clarify, because it took someone else to explain the point to me:

If we record this enough in the history books, then at some point in the future when time travel is possible, they will know that 600 years ago there was a big party held in the hopes that time travelers would show up for it. Naturally, any time traveler couldn't pass up free b33r, so they would set their time machine for May 7, 2005, 10:00pm EDT (08 May 2005 02:00:00 UTC)
East Campus Courtyard, MIT.

If this works, (and why would it not?), then at that precise moment, a Doloren will show up.



-Andy A.

Enterprize 03-05-2005 16:16

Re: MIT + Time Travel + Convetion
 
There may be some delorians present, but any potential time-hoppers would more likely opt for a more conservative entrance. Coordinates are posted in case the location of MIT is no longer in memory.

Greg Marra 03-05-2005 17:23

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Too bad it's not closer, or on a weekend...

Emily Pease 05-05-2005 09:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Marra
Too bad it's not closer, or on a weekend...

It's not that far away from Connecticut, and it is on Saturday, May 7th!

Eugenia Gabrielov 05-05-2005 10:14

Re: MIT + Time Travel + Convetion
 
I'd go, but I already know I'll be there.

RogerR 05-05-2005 10:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Marra
Too bad it's not closer, or on a weekend...

hows this for an idea:

along with the temporal and spacial co-ordinates of MIT's party, we start posting the temporal/spatial co-ords of people who'd like to make it, but can't. that way, if a future time traveler has some extra room in his/her time machine, they can pick you up, anytime, anyplace, and take you with them to the convention. it'll be like a time-travelers carpool list.

Emily Pease 05-05-2005 10:53

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From the website:
Quote:

DUE TO MIT POLICE REGULATIONS, NO ATTENDEES WILL BE ADMITTED WHO HAVE NOT ALREADY RSVP'D. SORRY GUYS, THIS ONE IS OUT OF OUR CONTROL.
So if you're coming from the future, make sure you go back far enough to RSVP ahead of time.

Shoot-darn, I really wanted to go but I didn't RSVP. Well, I'll have to go back once I figure out how to time-travel.

Eugenia Gabrielov 05-05-2005 11:47

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Well, then everybody will travel back in time in time enough to RSVP. Think about it. Everybody you meet there, could be people from the future who came back the year before their senior year, took a load of college placement exams, and got accepted to MIT. Surely they're smart enough to RSVP.

Pat McCarthy 05-05-2005 17:49

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I'm going to make a Segway time machine! That way, if people don't believe I'm from the future, they'll still be impressed by my segway! :D

Alex Pelan 05-05-2005 17:53

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Just occurred to me...if, in the event that someone does time travel back to this convention, won't they immediately change the future, thus destroying their existence? :yikes:

Kyle 05-05-2005 17:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Pelan
Just occurred to me...if, in the event that someone does time travel back to this convention, won't they immediately change the future, thus destroying their existence? :yikes:

If thats true then we will never know will we.....

Enterprize 05-05-2005 18:56

Re: MIT + Time Travel + Convetion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Pelan
Just occurred to me...if, in the event that someone does time travel back to this convention, won't they immediately change the future, thus destroying their existence? :yikes:

In some theories. One way to look at it is that all time travelling events ever to happen have already happened, and thusly the future will already have been written accordingly.

Or we could opt for the BttF thoery in which in our dimension, only a discrete number of timejumpers actually game, and in any scenario with other timejumpers will be played out in an alternate dimension (ala BttF II) :ahh:

KenWittlief 05-05-2005 22:01

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since the universe is expanding and our solar system is hurtling through space at thousands of miles per hour

wouldnt a time traveller also need a star ship? you send yourself even one hour into the future, and the earth will no longer be at this location when you pop back in

someone travelling from hundreds or thousands of years in the future would need to travel light years to get back to where we are now, relative to the center of the universe.

still the idea of only having one time travel convention is a little presumptuous - why not have one every 100 years?

I can see people in the future saying "you wanna goto that 2005 convention?"

"nah, the weather was miserable, besides theres nothing to do in Boston in 2005 - lets goto the 2805 one next"

Kyle 05-05-2005 22:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KenWittlief
since the universe is expanding and our solar system is hurtling through space at thousands of miles per hour

wouldnt a time traveller also need a star ship? you send yourself even one hour into the future, and the earth will no longer be at this location when you pop back in

someone travelling from hundreds or thousands of years in the future would need to travel light years to get back to where we are now, relative to the center of the universe.

still the idea of only having one time travel convention is a little presumptuous - why not have one every 100 years?

I can see people in the future saying "you wanna goto that 2005 convention?"

"nah, the weather was miserable, besides theres nothing to do in Boston in 2005 - lets goto the 2805 one next"

Who says time is relative to position? Everyone knows a good time machine would compensate for that kind of thing anyway.

Jay Trzaskos 06-05-2005 19:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugenia Gabrielov
I'd go, but I already know I'll be there.

Me too. I didn't know you got your time machine working yet. Wait, whenever you get it working and come back to brag about it. I have gone and confused myself again. Why does this happen every time? Oh well.

See you all there.
JT
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KenWittlief 06-05-2005 22:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle
Who says time is relative to position? Everyone knows a good time machine would compensate for that kind of thing anyway.

Time is the fourth dimension. If you want to meet me you have to specify X,Y,Z coordinates plus time coordinates. Im not going to stand on the corner of 5th and Main for eternity waiting for you.

since the earth is travelling through space at an incredible speed, if you travel through time and somehow manage to stay attached to the earth, isnt there a time-travel-rate at which you would be travelling faster than light?

Einstein would be very upset with you! c is the limit. Its not just a good idea, its the law!

If you could somehow attach yourself to the earth, then wouldnt you need to exist in all the times between now and the time you were heading to?

If I travel from today back to last year, wouldnt an observer in normal time perceive me as a frozen statue, sitting in my time machine, in the same location, from last year until now?

Eugenia Gabrielov 06-05-2005 22:37

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A good time machine, as mentioned above, will be invented in the future that will over come that distance, likely by antimatter travel.

Remember, the world was flat til Galileo said it wasn't.

With c, space is the limit!

Greg Marra 07-05-2005 10:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Emily Pease
It's not that far away from Connecticut, and it is on Saturday, May 7th!

It turns out I can't do math in my head.

Jay Trzaskos 09-08-2005 13:09

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Sorry to bring back an old, long forgotten, thread. But, did anyone watch SNL this past saturday (8-06-05)? They talked about the Time travel Convention during "Weekend Update." Just wondering if anyone else caught this?

JT

Yan Wang 09-08-2005 14:12

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No, what did they say?

Andy Baker 09-08-2005 14:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yan Wang
No, what did they say?

From what I recall, they said:

(paraphrasing)

"This either means that time travel is not possible, or people from the future already knew that this convention sucked."

It was funny, imo.

Andy B.


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