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xzvrw2 04-08-2005 16:25

school dress codes
 
I don't know where this would go under so I put it here.

My school is putting in a new dress code. All I know of it now is for the boys and that is kahkis collered shirt tucked in with a belt and no denim. So far all of my peers are mad that they are doing this. The only thing I am mad at is that they are announcing it so late in the summer. People already whent school shoping and spent all this money on clothes that they can't wear. I was just ondering if any of the schools of the other students of FIRST have this kind of dress code and what are your feelings on it.


Stevie

mechanicalbrain 04-08-2005 16:33

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That might have something to do with this movie! :D
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/baggyclothes.html

xzvrw2 04-08-2005 16:35

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See none of that would get in because we have metal dectors.

sciguy125 04-08-2005 16:39

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Dress code!? Try a uniform for 9 years. Then, a dress code in high school. The high school dress code wasn't as strict as yours, but seems to be getting worse every year. I liked to look at the new rules and see which ones my were incited by my friends.

663.keith 04-08-2005 16:42

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our school has a dress code similar to yours that has been in place for several years. I feel that a dress code has some bad parts to it, but has some other factors that make it acceptable. A dress code ensures that people dress in a way that makes the school appear much nicer, but it takes away peoples desire to express their own individuality.

I know that In our school, our dress code was about as strict as yours, but over time, the faculty realized that students could dress in ways that they wanted, that still kept the school appearing very nice. Recently, our school has allowed people to wear t-shirts, and even allow students to wear jeans on Fridays. overall, I feel that not too much sacrifice is needed to be made in order to properly follow a school dress code.

I do not think a dress code is a bad as people make them out to be.

mechanicalbrain 04-08-2005 16:50

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WOW! I didn't expect so many people to have a dress code. Our school has no dress code at all. It doesn't matter though because even if they did have a dress code because many of the student at our school have things like piercings, tattoos, and dyed hair (and yet our school ranks very highly somehow). Part of the reason we don't have anything like that is that kids in our county go to school board meeting and regularly speak at them.

xzvrw2 04-08-2005 16:55

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See my school has a problem with fights. Some times they are about what kids wear. So I think that those fights will cut back because of the dress code. And our administration isn't all that great so there is a lot of problems with that. One instance of that is there is this song called white tee, it started a new fashion trend, for lack of better words, and everyone started wearing white tees. The administration thought that every one was in a gang because of the white tees so they now we cannot wear white tees to school. I think that it is the administrations fault as well as the students and the parents.

Billfred 04-08-2005 17:13

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Irmo High School, my alma mater, had a far less restrictive dress code. Shirts with shoulders and enough material to cover the stomach region (and no drugs/alcohol/suggestive content), shorts/skirts that were fingertip length, and no flip-flops. (Whether the dress code was actually enforced or not is an entirely different issue.)

If you think it's unfair, take it to the administration and state the best case you can for a more relaxed dress code. Make sure you point out both the advantages and the disadvantages, should you take that route.

Joe Matt 04-08-2005 17:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xzvrw2
I don't know where this would go under so I put it here.

My school is putting in a new dress code. All I know of it now is for the boys and that is kahkis collered shirt tucked in with a belt and no denim. So far all of my peers are mad that they are doing this. The only thing I am mad at is that they are announcing it so late in the summer. People already whent school shoping and spent all this money on clothes that they can't wear. I was just ondering if any of the schools of the other students of FIRST have this kind of dress code and what are your feelings on it.


Stevie

Public or private? In my own view, a public school has no right to limmit beyond a reasonable amount dress. IMHO kahki and collard shirt tucked in with belt is way BEYOND a reasonabale amount. There will be people who say this is good, that gang violence will drop and such. Well, most gang activity happens when people talk to eachother, so why not make everyone be silent between classess? Howabout keeping hands in their pockets to prevent gang signs? What point do we stop to keep people "safe" and "protected"?

Thank god I'm out of public education, it's a real mess.

David Kelly 04-08-2005 18:18

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If you don't like dress codes in school now, you'd better begin to get used to it. When you begin your career and start working, you will most likely have some sort of dress code that you must adhere to. If you don't like it, you don't go to HR or your boss and cry about it because the chances of you getting fired will be pretty high.


There are much more important things to worry about in school than what the dress code says....

Madison 04-08-2005 18:36

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Originally Posted by David Kelly
If you don't like dress codes in school now, you'd better begin to get used to it. When you begin your career and start working, you will most likely have some sort of dress code that you must adhere to. If you don't like it, you don't go to HR or your boss and cry about it because the chances of you getting fired will be pretty high.

My company has no dress code beyond this warning -- "don't make the mistake of dressing like a slob and find yourself being introduced to shareholders, bankers, or a local auto dealer." Viva la dotcom revolution!

Also, kids -- if you make a complaint about company policy to anyone; whether they be your boss, your human resources department, or a coworker and you are subsequently fired for such complaint, your employer has violated the law. They cannot take retaliatory action against you for questioning policy, though you can be fired for violating it.

Besides, in a lot of ways, school dress codes do not mirror accepted standards of dress in business. School dress codes are often implemented so students will not be judged by appearance -- whether that appearance include designer labels or gang colors (or both!) whereas in business, we're taught the opposite -- that those dressed in suits, ties, and such are 'professional' or 'respectable'.

For those who're keeping track at home:

It's not a good idea to respect someone for wearing Prada. It's baseless.
It is a good idea to respect someone wearing an ugly tie that doesn't match their ugly shirt. They're a professional and fight for good each day from within their cubicle walls. Well, all except the guys from Enron.

So, yeah, I think this is all a bit silly, if you can't tell. Know your rights!

mechanicalbrain 04-08-2005 20:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JosephM
Public or private? In my own view, a public school has no right to limmit beyond a reasonable amount dress. IMHO kahki and collard shirt tucked in with belt is way BEYOND a reasonabale amount. There will be people who say this is good, that gang violence will drop and such. Well, most gang activity happens when people talk to eachother, so why not make everyone be silent between classess? Howabout keeping hands in their pockets to prevent gang signs? What point do we stop to keep people "safe" and "protected"?

Thank god I'm out of public education, it's a real mess.

Heh you mean it as a joke but its been done. One of the schools near us, i wanna say Rachel Carson, has this type of thing. My friend came from this public school and says that the school is separated into cubbies (by grade and then further more by i think last name) they are only allowed to talk to kids in their cubby and only during their break (in which you cant leave the cubby). And before and after school their is no talking in the halls. I have heard this from a couple people from the school, some say their really strict about this some say its not to bad but still i thank god i go to Oakton. :D

xzvrw2 04-08-2005 20:57

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I am in a public school. Pontiac Northern High School.

prohibited items
1. sweatshirts
2.denim of any kind except on fridays
3.hats and things like them
4.tight fitting, baggy, oversized, or cutout itme
5.sheer, halter strapless, tank tops, muscleshirts, spaghetti straps
6.sweat sutis, jogging attire, loungewear, sleepwear, electronic clothing
7.no flipflops house shoes high heels
8.overcoats, gloves, hats must be stored in lockers
9.sleeveless jerseys and sleeveless shirts
10.all shirts must be long enough to be tucked in: a plain belt buckle muct be worn
11.shorts must be knee length
12.no boots, except in winter months. must be black or dark brown
13.jewelry may be worn in moderation

young men's dresscode
shirt:collared dress shirt, long or short sleeved as weather dictates (white, light blue, navy blue pin stripe)

knit shirt: collared polo, turtleneck, mock turtleneck (white, navy blue school color)

vest: white, navey blue, black, school color; must be worn with a collared shirt

shirts must be tucked in at all times

sweater/suit jacket/ blazer: white, navy blue, black, school color

ties: must be a solid color

pants: khaki, navy blue, black, charcoal gray (pants must be worn at the waist and with a visible black or brown plain buckle/no embellishments)

shorts: must be knee lenght and only worn as weather dictates

socks: must be over the ankle, a solid color and worn at all times

shoes: dress shoes which are cut below the ankle. dress shoes are difined as tie shoes having full front, back, and sides/ solid black or brown (NO TENNIS SHOES)

jewelry: may be worn as long it is not large, bulty, flashy or distracting, as determined by building administration

hair: hair styles are color shall not be a disraction. hair should be neat, clean, trimmed, combed/braided and well grommed at all times.

facial hair: neat and trimmed at all times

no denim (pants or jacket) maybe worn except on fridays

young ladies dress code

blouse: collared blouse (white, light blue), long or short sleeved as weather dictates; must be long enough to remain tucked in when arms raised above head

knit shirt: collared, polo, turtleneck, mock turtleneck(white, navy blue, black, school color)

vest: white, navy blue, school color (must be worn with a collared blouse)

sweater/blazer: white, navy blue, black, school color

slacks: khaki, navy blue, black, charcoal gray (slacks must be worn at the waist and with a visible black or brown plain buckle/no embellishments)

skirts: khaki, navy blue, black, charcoal gray (skirts cannot have slits and no shorts may be work underneath the skirts; skirts may not be more than two inches above the knee.)

shorts: must be knee length and worn only as weather dictates

socks: must be over the ankle, a solid color and worn at all times

shoes: dress shoes which are cut below the ankle. dress shoes are difined as tie shoes having full front, back, and sides/ solid black or brown (NO TENNIS SHOES)

jewelry: may be worn as long it is not large, bulty, flashy or distracting, as determined by building administration

hair: hair styles are color shall not be a disraction. hair should be neat, clean, trimmed, combed/braided and well grommed at all times.

no denim (pants or jacket) maybe worn except on fridays

thats the dress code now

sanddrag 04-08-2005 21:10

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I think the tucked in shirt thing is too much. I almost never wear a tucked in shirt. I hate it. My HS make use wear plain color collared shirts with no large logos or printing. No jeans or cordoroy. Cargo shorts and pants were acceptable, but not excessively baggy. They did not require the shirt to be tucked in.


I preferred this dress code much better than not having one where everyone would be wearing Sean John jeans (twice the size they should be too) and a white T shirt if there was no dress code.

xzvrw2 04-08-2005 21:30

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See what people dont under stand is that we had a dress code. It was just never enforced.


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