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Adam Y. 16-09-2005 10:44

Nintendo Revolution
 
Has anyone seen the new controllers for the revolution?? I have to say Im quite impressed especially with the GBA games that actually use a similar control scheme. Nintendo Revolution I can imagine how goofy I will look using it though and now my mother will never have to worry about controling the game.

Nick Bailey 16-09-2005 15:31

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In my opinion, Nintendo had a very difficult task when designing a controller because of the retro game downloads. They had to make a controller that would play games all the way from the NES to Gamecube. No an easy feat. So I say that Nintendo did a great job with the controller. Go Nintendo!

JoeXIII'007 16-09-2005 15:45

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First words to come out of my mouth were "What the?!" Never has such a controller existed in video game history (except for at the arcades and Virtual Boy). Nonetheless, I'm quite impressed by the product of Nintendo thinking. They definitely have my money on its console now.

Adam Y. 16-09-2005 20:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nbailey512
In my opinion, Nintendo had a very difficult task when designing a controller because of the retro game downloads. They had to make a controller that would play games all the way from the NES to Gamecube. No an easy feat. So I say that Nintendo did a great job with the controller. Go Nintendo!

I believe that the Revolution will be able to use Gamecube controllers in addition to the special controls.

JoeXIII'007 16-09-2005 22:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Y.
I believe that the Revolution will be able to use Gamecube controllers in addition to the special controls.

Ahhh... :rolleyes: That theory is probably right on. In fact, that's probably why their shipping wireless controllers with the Revolution. I mean, why would they need another complicated but intuitive control scheme when they still have the Gamecube controllers.

;)

Brian Lesser 16-09-2005 23:45

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IGN's Main controller article... http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651275p1.html
IGN's newest controller article... http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651559p1.html

Due to the backwards compatibility that Nintendo plans to add to the final product, they also decided to make an add-on that will work for the Gamecube games. Pretty nice idea, might I add. As IGN said, the mock-up that THEY (IGN) created is only based on what they were told.

But lets go with a prediction I made up. This has to do with the controller based on looking at it sideways so that the D-Pad is on the left side. Look familiar? Yup. You guessed it. Because of the plans Nintendo has for being able to purchase older games online, you will be able to play any purchase NES games just like you played them when they first came out.

Michael Hill 18-09-2005 10:02

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I guess the new remote controllers (lawl) are sensitive to tilt (as in they know what direction they are pointing). I don't like this. What happens if you have to like go to the bathroom or something or do some small task? You would start doing a nose dive. I don't like the new controllers. Game Cube controllers 4TW.

Ian Curtis 18-09-2005 16:26

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I applaud Nintendo for making us go "What the?!". They seem to have a history of innovation and I hope it works for them. I mean my PS2 controller is almost exactly an early PS1 controller and practically a PS3 controller. Not much change. An Xbox controller is essentially a Xbox 360 controller. An NES controller is not a Super NES controller which is not an N64 Controller which is not a Gamecube controller which is most definitely not a Revolution controller. Plus now you don't need to put down the controller to consumer an ever-necessary caffeinated beverage.

sanddrag 18-09-2005 22:34

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I don't understand what is so great about making a game controller in the shape of a TV remote. Actually, it seems kind of dumb to me. When they make a full body suit with 200 sensors that is affordable by the public then I'll be impressed.

Eric Scheuing 19-09-2005 18:34

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I guess this is one of those things where "only time will tell" or something cliche like that.

JoeXIII'007 19-09-2005 22:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sanddrag
I don't understand what is so great about making a game controller in the shape of a TV remote. Actually, it seems kind of dumb to me. When they make a full body suit with 200 sensors that is affordable by the public then I'll be impressed.

But consider that a body suit that's affordable is a loooonggggg ways off, so please don't and I wouldn't go to that extent in using that as a reference to what is great.

What I would really think about is the good of all the sensors on what is essentially a stick. Star Wars games made for this could be WONDERFUL when doing Jedi battles (light saber in your hand), sword fighters and fighters in general will get a nice reality boost (makes me think of that SEGA Genesis foot pad they had for fighters, except this time the power is in the hand). There are endless possibilties to what it could do. Baseball, tennis, you name it, you can probably use the controller to emulate bats, rackets, etc.

In short, sure its the shape of a TV remote, but look at what the controller can do vs. what your TV remote can do. TV remote: Change channels, rewind, eject, nothing really. Revolution Controller: much much more.

Matt Leese 22-09-2005 00:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeXIII'007
First words to come out of my mouth were "What the?!" Never has such a controller existed in video game history (except for at the arcades and Virtual Boy). Nonetheless, I'm quite impressed by the product of Nintendo thinking. They definitely have my money on its console now.

Ever been in a CAVE? (It's a virtual-reality room where they project images on the walls and the floor) It uses a very similiar controller for navigating through it. It was the first thing I thought of when I saw it.

Matt

Aburame Shino 26-09-2005 15:49

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The controller for the Revolution both scares and confuses me. While it is cool that you'll be able to play wirelessly, the design of the machine just seems awfully clunky to me. At least it has attachments like these.

Greg Marra 26-09-2005 15:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aburame Shino
The controller for the Revolution both scares and confuses me. While it is cool that you'll be able to play wirelessly, the design of the machine just seems awfully clunky to me. At least it has attachments like these.

This is a mockup, this is not a product from Nintendo, IGN produced the mockup.

I understand that the Revolution will have Gamecube controller ports on it anyways, so you can either plug in your old GCN controllers or even your wavebird, if you want to keep everything wireless.

Does this thing run on AA's, or use some internal battery? I might need to stock up...

Kristian Calhoun 15-11-2005 11:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Marra
This is a mockup, this is not a product from Nintendo, IGN produced the mockup.

I understand that the Revolution will have Gamecube controller ports on it anyways, so you can either plug in your old GCN controllers or even your wavebird, if you want to keep everything wireless.

Does this thing run on AA's, or use some internal battery? I might need to stock up...

yes, the controller "shell" as they are calling it will allow the rev. to play gcn games more easily. however, the ign picture is only a mockup as has been previously stated. and if you have seen pics of the rev. the side will have a flap that opens up with gcn controller ports and memory card slots.
as a proud member of the nintendo community forums, i am happy to say that the entire community galdy accepts your support of the big N! They have dared to go into unventrued territories, and have stated many times before that they they do not want the revolution to be compared to the xbox 360 or ps3. the new controller will please both new and old gamers alike with its innovative gameplay features. creating and designing a wireless controller with motion sensor capabilities such as "point and shoot" and a port that allows it to change to a "nun-chaku" design is truly an amazing feat to accomplish. the port will also allows other add-ons in the future, which will also enhance gameplay features.
as for using batteries, i believe that it is going to be charged, but am not 100% sure on that, so dont quote me. afterall, the wavebird used batteries.
that is all!

KenWittlief 15-11-2005 11:20

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so, who has taken one apart?

they must have accelerometers or other form of yaw rate sensors

and if they are selling these mass market, the parts must be pretty in-expensive

Adam Y. 17-11-2005 19:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KenWittlief
so, who has taken one apart?

they must have accelerometers or other form of yaw rate sensors

and if they are selling these mass market, the parts must be pretty in-expensive

Ummm.... You are jumping the gun way to soon. The Revolution will not be out until next year.

bk111 21-11-2005 23:28

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The controller is probably one of the most impressive devices I've seen. As the Revolution being clunky, have you seen how thin the thing is? Also, the controller will have a recharging station. Imagine duel-wielding them, though. Can anything handle eight controllers at once? The graphics capabilities of the console are hopefully going to be holographic or something like that.

Kristian Calhoun 22-11-2005 11:00

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fist of all, what do you mean by saying clunky? its way less lcunky than the 360 or ps3, only the size of 3 stacked dvd cases!
second, nothing has been confirmed about a recharging station, and im pretty sure (90%)that if you use twice at once, they will have to be on different frequencies (player slots)

bk111 22-11-2005 22:46

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I was referring to the 13th post (sorry, this forum layout is a little bit different from the outside, and I don't know how to quote.) As for the recharging station, go to IGN. They wrote something so ridiculous about the PS3 that you have to read it. Also, I heard that the PS3 is going to cost between 600 and 800 dollars. :eek:
So this is what the prices stack up to now:
Revolution: 200
Xbox 360: 300-400
PS3: 600-800
I think the Big N is going to come out on top in this one.

wilshire 23-11-2005 17:05

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the revolution controller idea is pretty innovative but I'm not a big fan. I like the 360 controller allot and it feels very natural to me (allot more natural then the XBOX s type controller). I don't know what Sony is planning with their system. first they say their going Blue Ray then they say they aren't sure. then they release photos of their controller which is much more reminiscent of a boomerang then a controller. now the cost estimation of the system is 600 to 800 dollars. I have a feeling there is going to be allot more revolutions sold in japan then PS3's if these predictions come out to be true.

Ian Curtis 23-11-2005 17:25

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GAH! I will eat my shorts if the PS3 debuts for over $400. The people who work at Sony are not stupid. There is no way they would release a system for that much money, becuase only the die hardest die hard fans would buy it. I certainly don't know anyone who would pay 600 bucks for it.

Also, why would they back of Blu-ray when it was one of their selling points? (Although I hope they do abandon it)

I've said it before and I'll say it again... I love the Revolutions controller, I might even buy the system.

bk111 14-02-2006 10:43

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I will be really upset if they don't boost the specs a lot from the Gamecube. I've heard that they told developers to just up the specs from the Gamecube development kits. I'm really frustrated by all the secrecy.

Kristian Calhoun 16-02-2006 21:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bk111
I will be really upset if they don't boost the specs a lot from the Gamecube. I've heard that they told developers to just up the specs from the Gamecube development kits. I'm really frustrated by all the secrecy.

ok, just to set the record straight...

-the revolution has its own development kits, which has been confirmed by developers. i mean, how else would we know about some of the information that we already have if it weren't for developers leaking us info about the developement kits?
-the specs will be pwn-some(lol)and the rev. although not being a highly expensive piece of hardware focusing on graphics, will be 2-4x more powerful than the gamecube and will have just as many times greater the graphics.
-the rev will have an IBM "Broadway" CPU, and an ATI "Hollywood" GPU.
-secrecy was a part of the marketing of nintendo, and to prevent other companies from getting a glimpse of their ideas during the developement stage until they could get patents. everything will be revealed at e3 in may (starting on the 9th)
- there will be an unconfirmed amount of 1T-SRAM, whose goal is to "combine the speed of SRAM with the capacity and price of DRAM. The new 1T-SRAM has very low power consumption while maintaning a rate of speed and functionality close to SRAM and allowing for the density of DRAM."
- it is rumored to have 88MB 1T-SRAM and 16MB D-RAM, but this PURE SPECULATION!
- however, it is confirmed that the revolution will have 512mb of expandable flash memory, which is plenty enough for games, despite what many people think. Nintendo is trying to make a family friendly console that willl not devour your wallet as you purchase it. keeping this in mind, nintendo has wisely decided not to include a hard drive in their next-gen console for several reasons. they state that hard drives are the parts of computers that are most prone to crashing, also, they can be expensive, which will in the end eventually cost the purchaser more money, and increase the price of the system. nintendo has officially stated that there will be 2 usb 2.0 ports on the rev. and 2(?) sd memory card slots allowing for users to expand the memory if they so please.
-Satoru Iwata (nintendo president for those of you who didn't know) said that when you compare the next-gen consoles spec-wise, the Revolution isn't the winner. He also said that specs don't really matter, because when you play it, there won't be a noticable difference. How you may ask? Well, the PS3 and XBOX 360 may be monsters when it comes to specs, but, does all of that power really go to the games? Sadly, the answer is no. The truth is, all of that extra power goes to the multiple connections, ports, hard drives, and other accesories. Nintendo has conserved it's power by only providing two USB ports and the required A/V ports and power adapter ports, and the sd memory card slots. (so the revolution will not have a giant brick of a power adapter like the 360.)

so commenting on the rev.'s power, size, versatility, innovation, controller, future pheriphals/add-ons, and nintendo's view of the current market, etc., this is a lot of power and quality coming from a console which is smaller than 3 stacked dvd cases!

hoped this cleared things up a bit, and will prevent any future confusion. we'll just have to wait until E3!

bk111 20-02-2006 21:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by calhounian
ok, just to set the record straight...

-the revolution has its own development kits, which has been confirmed by developers. i mean, how else would we know about some of the information that we already have if it weren't for developers leaking us info about the developement kits?
-the specs will be pwn-some(lol)and the rev. although not being a highly expensive piece of hardware focusing on graphics, will be 2-4x more powerful than the gamecube and will have just as many times greater the graphics.
-the rev will have an IBM "Broadway" CPU, and an ATI "Hollywood" GPU.
-secrecy was a part of the marketing of nintendo, and to prevent other companies from getting a glimpse of their ideas during the developement stage until they could get patents. everything will be revealed at e3 in may (starting on the 9th)
- there will be an unconfirmed amount of 1T-SRAM, whose goal is to "combine the speed of SRAM with the capacity and price of DRAM. The new 1T-SRAM has very low power consumption while maintaning a rate of speed and functionality close to SRAM and allowing for the density of DRAM."
- it is rumored to have 88MB 1T-SRAM and 16MB D-RAM, but this PURE SPECULATION!
- however, it is confirmed that the revolution will have 512mb of expandable flash memory, which is plenty enough for games, despite what many people think. Nintendo is trying to make a family friendly console that willl not devour your wallet as you purchase it. keeping this in mind, nintendo has wisely decided not to include a hard drive in their next-gen console for several reasons. they state that hard drives are the parts of computers that are most prone to crashing, also, they can be expensive, which will in the end eventually cost the purchaser more money, and increase the price of the system. nintendo has officially stated that there will be 2 usb 2.0 ports on the rev. and 2(?) sd memory card slots allowing for users to expand the memory if they so please.
-Satoru Iwata (nintendo president for those of you who didn't know) said that when you compare the next-gen consoles spec-wise, the Revolution isn't the winner. He also said that specs don't really matter, because when you play it, there won't be a noticable difference. How you may ask? Well, the PS3 and XBOX 360 may be monsters when it comes to specs, but, does all of that power really go to the games? Sadly, the answer is no. The truth is, all of that extra power goes to the multiple connections, ports, hard drives, and other accesories. Nintendo has conserved it's power by only providing two USB ports and the required A/V ports and power adapter ports, and the sd memory card slots. (so the revolution will not have a giant brick of a power adapter like the 360.)

so commenting on the rev.'s power, size, versatility, innovation, controller, future pheriphals/add-ons, and nintendo's view of the current market, etc., this is a lot of power and quality coming from a console which is smaller than 3 stacked dvd cases!

hoped this cleared things up a bit, and will prevent any future confusion. we'll just have to wait until E3!

What do you think has been their most cryptic quote yet?

Kristian Calhoun 21-02-2006 16:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bk111
What do you think has been their most cryptic quote yet?

as in an official quote that might reveal something and that everyone is talking about? that one's a toughie, i'll have to get back to you on that one...

bk111 22-02-2006 14:59

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I think it was when they said it would have graphics improvements that have no bearing on gameplay. That isn't an exact quote, but it comes across as an oxymoron or something. Anyone know how many developers have confirmed support with a title? As far as I know Ubisoft/Free Radical Design-shooter (suspected), tecmo-golf, Sega, Capcom- not resident evil, Retro Studios-Metroid Prime 3 :D, an unnamed developer-Super Smash Bros, Blitz Games-unknown. If you find anymore, please add.

Kristian Calhoun 22-02-2006 17:46

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well here are some quotes that i came up with, but of course they were meant to keep everyone guessing, and there are a bunch more. if you want to i suggest checking out the rev section of ign.com they have a lot of info and articles regarding speeches and details.

"It's convenient to make games that are played on TVs. But I always wanted to have a custom-sized screen that wasn't the typical four-cornered cathode-ray-tube TV. I've always thought that games would eventually break free of the confines of a TV screen to fill an entire room. But I would rather not say anything more about that."
-Miyamoto.

"Our Revolution system is going to be full of surprises. Who else in the industry can boast the clock ticker like yesterday's industrious revisions for the penultimate gaming knife cutter?"
- Miyamoto

bk111 23-02-2006 11:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by calhounian
well here are some quotes that i came up with, but of course they were meant to keep everyone guessing, and there are a bunch more. if you want to i suggest checking out the rev section of ign.com they have a lot of info and articles regarding speeches and details.

"It's convenient to make games that are played on TVs. But I always wanted to have a custom-sized screen that wasn't the typical four-cornered cathode-ray-tube TV. I've always thought that games would eventually break free of the confines of a TV screen to fill an entire room. But I would rather not say anything more about that."
-Miyamoto.

"Our Revolution system is going to be full of surprises. Who else in the industry can boast the clock ticker like yesterday's industrious revisions for the penultimate gaming knife cutter?"
- Miyamoto

Do you think he might be alluding to VR for the Rev? Would that even be possible, considering the similiarities between the Rev and Gamecube development kits?

Jay W. 23-02-2006 13:37

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VR would be awesome (so would that lightsaber thingy mentioned above, but thats another story!)

Unfortunatly, I don't see it happening with the Revolution. From what I've read, VR would take more power/memory than the system is rumored to contain.

bk111 28-02-2006 14:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay W.
VR would be awesome (so would that lightsaber thingy mentioned above, but thats another story!)

Unfortunatly, I don't see it happening with the Revolution. From what I've read, VR would take more power/memory than the system is rumored to contain.

Maybe part of the Revolution is using less power for that stuff. If it's two to three times the power of the Gamecube, then then it might be possible, right? Either way, we will all find out on May 9th, 2006.

Heretic121 28-02-2006 15:24

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from what ive read over 1,000 developer kits have been handed out for the revolution... but they are still beta... the first 2-3 were using a modified game cube but worked well...

from what ive read about specs it will be better than the PS2 + Xbox... but just below the xbox306 + ps3...

cant wait for its realease =X oh and the new zelda =D

bk111 01-03-2006 11:02

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The Zelda release has been really frustrating. Delay, delay, delay. Unless it beats out the three best Gamecube games combined, I don't think having Gamecube only content for the game would make any sense. But I think you'll be able to play it with the Revolution controller too (not just the shell). Mmm, sword slashing...

Kristian Calhoun 01-03-2006 22:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bk111
The Zelda release has been really frustrating. Delay, delay, delay. Unless it beats out the three best Gamecube games combined, I don't think having Gamecube only content for the game would make any sense. But I think you'll be able to play it with the Revolution controller too (not just the shell). Mmm, sword slashing...

either way, you'll be able to play it on the rev even if they dont make it a cross-console games as many rumors have stated. i don't know if you've seen all the pics, but there's a little flap that opens on the side which contains the four gcn controller socket and two memory card slots. but i must say that nintendo's future is looking very bright. microsoft rushed the launch of the 360, with not such an excellent launch title line-up.(this can be argued) you can't live off of halo forever, and there is some talk of bungee maybe switching over to nintendo. the ps3 will be amazing, but at a very high price! i have faith in nintendo, they've been making excellent products in the upmost quality for over two decades now, and are headed in the new, right direction.

PIRATECAPTIN 03-03-2006 08:52

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The Rev controller definitely beats the PS3 controller.

Reason:

Rev controller = nunchukes

PS3 controller = boomerang

Nunchukes always beat a boomerang! :D

bk111 06-03-2006 15:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by calhounian
either way, you'll be able to play it on the rev even if they dont make it a cross-console games as many rumors have stated. i don't know if you've seen all the pics, but there's a little flap that opens on the side which contains the four gcn controller socket and two memory card slots. but i must say that nintendo's future is looking very bright. microsoft rushed the launch of the 360, with not such an excellent launch title line-up.(this can be argued) you can't live off of halo forever, and there is some talk of bungee maybe switching over to nintendo. the ps3 will be amazing, but at a very high price! i have faith in nintendo, they've been making excellent products in the upmost quality for over two decades now, and are headed in the new, right direction.

Bungie...Nintendo :eek: *drools* I would like it if Nintendo bought Free Radical Design from EA. I'm not sure what good Bungie would bring to Nintendo, though. It's kind of like the way I view a Nintendo-Microsoft partnership: great idea, but what would they do? They will probably have an issue with the Rev. controller: it may be comfortable, but like the original NES controller, it is rectangular, leaving room for ergonomic improvements.


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