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Joe Matt 10-06-2002 09:20

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Originally posted by Dallin


Well to answer your post from a timeline point of view, battlebots IQ was not announced until after this "feud" started. It has been around for longer than that. To be honest, the whole universal vs disney thing isn't even a good point because it'd be more like 'Disney' vs 'Comedy Central' and that really doesn't make sense. Dean doesn't hate BBIQ for that reason - he hates Battlebots, who knows why. I dont. The point im trying to make is - they are both worthwhile competitions and it should be acknowledged. I've never really met Dean but I have met Trey and Greg, and they seem like great guys. I look up to a lot of the Battlebots builders. Including Team Loki, Carlo, Jonathan(Ziggo fame), Inertia Labs, the list goes on. They are ALL great engineers and helpers. From what I've noticed there are judges and competitors from Battlebots that are either mentors, referees, or judges for FIRST. Atleast those individuals can recognize the usefulness of both events. I think it goes alot further than a simple "disney" vs "universal" debate. In fact, it doesn't really matter, it should be up to the students to decide what they want to do. They are both great learning experiences. My battlebots IQ experience was much better than my FIRST experience due to the fact that my BBIQ team was composed of 7 good friends which also participate in FIRST and we all got a lot of machine time. As opposed to 50 members on a FIRST team and everyone crowding around the robot...just my opinion.

First of all, the BB guys are good, they can get some kids FIRST can't, but your saying that T & G are litterally Gods. They are out not just for the kids, but also for some of the roalties. And don't say Universal vs. Disney isn't part of this. If Disney didn't have FIRST, you guys would be in a basement of some guy in Idaho. Universal copies Disney, so they needed their own robotics competition. The one thing I agree on is the smaller teams, sure their good for construction and such, but BBIQ lacks the going to other teams and ploting stratges that FIRST has, and that's my favorite part.

BSMFIRST 13-06-2002 14:43

If Disney didn't have FIRST, you guys would be in a basement of some guy in Idaho. Universal copies Disney, so they needed their own robotics competition.

This whole Universal vs Disney theory is so ridiculous I have to reply. BB had the idea of BBIQ, they paid Universal to use one of their studios. This is not a case of Universal copying Disney rather perhaps BattleBots copying FIRST.

If BBIQ weren't at Universal it'd be at some other soundstage or maybe at an airplane hanger like BattleBots. It's more likely that the event would be held in the Staples Center (which Trey's Dad owns) than a basement in Idaho.

Dan

Joe Matt 15-06-2002 16:55

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Originally posted by BSMFIRST
If Disney didn't have FIRST, you guys would be in a basement of some guy in Idaho. Universal copies Disney, so they needed their own robotics competition.

This whole Universal vs Disney theory is so ridiculous I have to reply. BB had the idea of BBIQ, they paid Universal to use one of their studios. This is not a case of Universal copying Disney rather perhaps BattleBots copying FIRST.

If BBIQ weren't at Universal it'd be at some other soundstage or maybe at an airplane hanger like BattleBots. It's more likely that the event would be held in the Staples Center (which Trey's Dad owns) than a basement in Idaho.

Dan

Poor mortal. Trust me, it's there. I am a theme park junkie, and Universal vs. Disney is true and is there.

Don't believe me?

Go on Jurassic Park The Ride at Islands of Adventure, and look at the boat when you go into the carnavor place. You see the Mickey ears in the water? Now guess who's name is on them.

Michel

The Disney CEO is Michel Esiner.

Trust me, it's there.

BSMFIRST 15-06-2002 22:07

I'm not arguing whether the feud is or isn't; just saying it's irrelevant.

RBrandy 17-06-2002 22:04

I do agree that Battle Bots does not follow gracious professionalism, but I think it can give you great expirience in engineering to build a bot that with stand every other bot in the competition.

Ashley Weed 18-06-2002 09:05

I am more afraid for FIRST than anything. Think about all the game shows that were put on TV over the past few years. One began and got good ratings, then every station wanted their own. Then people got bored watching the same thing every night of the week, and most of the shows don't exist anymore, and if they do, they have poor ratings. I hope the same thing doesn't happen to FIRST. If people start to compete in battle bots and leave FIRST that's ok. I know that there are true dedicated people who will stick with FIRST. However, the problem will be when BBIQ goes commercial and then there will be more spin-offs, and people will eventually get tired of hearing about Robotics.

Joe Matt 19-06-2002 15:54

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Originally posted by weedie
I am more afraid for FIRST than anything. Think about all the game shows that were put on TV over the past few years. One began and got good ratings, then every station wanted their own. Then people got bored watching the same thing every night of the week, and most of the shows don't exist anymore, and if they do, they have poor ratings. I hope the same thing doesn't happen to FIRST. If people start to compete in battle bots and leave FIRST that's ok. I know that there are true dedicated people who will stick with FIRST. However, the problem will be when BBIQ goes commercial and then there will be more spin-offs, and people will eventually get tired of hearing about Robotics.
You hit it on the head weedie!
The thing is that FIRST changes every year. So it's different than the same old playing field every year like in BBIQ. So when BBIQ goes public (it will, it was planned to, trust me) it will have spinn-offs (can anyone say Junior RobotWars?) and they will fall. And the one and only will stay. Kinda like The Price is Right and all of the other game shows.

Adam Y. 19-06-2002 22:32

Robitic combat has been around for about 8 years. Oddly enough it was started when someone tried to make a remote control vacuum cleaner with disasterous results. Meh it's too expensive to build a battlebot for me so im building a sumo robot.:) Nice and safe and not destructive.

BBFIRSTCHICK 04-05-2003 00:54

btw:
 
I know this is REALLY REALLY OLD....and im sorry I had to bring it up, I could not help myself....cant you all just grow up??? my little brother and sister are better then you guys!! you sound like 4 year olds going at it!!! You would think that "adults" would be able to handle themselves better....no? am I right or wrong? ok i'll shut up now before one of you kill me!


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