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jdiwnab 19-11-2005 21:03

Re: 2006 game hints?
 
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Originally Posted by eiii
Hmmm... I think he's just trying to confuse us.

I think he does that a lot. Not just in that example.

EricH 20-11-2005 01:06

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Dave confuse us? So what else is new? :rolleyes:

I have seen that most of Dave's "hints" can be interpreted in at least 2 ways. Usually, one way is that it's a fake or a joke. After that possibility, there is often at least one other option. So, what we have to do is find as many possible options as we can and then figure out which ones are real. For example, the last "hint" would fit in very well with at least one interpretation of the "no metal on robots rule" hint, but that particular hint is most likely a fake, so it leaves things wide open still, though I like some of the ideas advanced in that thread about human player involvement changing based on robot action. So, I guess we can watch for more hints and wait for kickoff!

litchfieldc 21-11-2005 10:20

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Look at every game ever played for first, the main scoring object is 3-D. Maybe we'll use FLAT objects this year. After all, what is a baton but a flat piece of tubing. Maybe we'll be hanging hoops or something over a hook. :ahh: Until we find out, I will keep speculating. What is a speculation, but an idea that is not accepted by many.

litchfieldc 21-11-2005 10:32

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I think I know what the game is. We will need to knock over a stack of boxes that contains tetras, as well as bits of paper. :yikes: When you drive to pick up the tetra, your robot will slide on the paper which was spilled when you dumped it. After that, you have to move the boxes to your side, and stack the tetras inside of a PVC goal which will be located somewhere in the vacinity of here and there. To add a relay idea to this, you will need to split the task up three ways and use alliance members to do other tasks (one hits the boxes, one moves them, one stacks). Well, what do you think? :D


What is a speculation, but an idea not accepted by many

Petey 21-11-2005 14:28

Re: 2006 game hints?
 
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Originally Posted by litchfieldc
Look at every game ever played for first, the main scoring object is 3-D. Maybe we'll use FLAT objects this year. After all, what is a baton but a flat piece of tubing. Maybe we'll be hanging hoops or something over a hook. :ahh: Until we find out, I will keep speculating. What is a speculation, but an idea that is not accepted by many.

I dunno, Chris. A baton isn't flat, in the conventional sense of the word--it's rounded. Very much so.

As to your paper idea--what basis do you have for the inclusion of paper? I don't think they'll have the paper for sliding, because that would be contrary to common sense safety issues, and we all know FIRST is big on safety. Would FIRST grease the playing field? No (and Dave, you're not allowed to use that for an idea).

No, I think someone who noticed the pattern of triangles and balls is right. We'll be going back to balls this year, with the possible inclusion of batons.

--Petey

Ian Curtis 21-11-2005 14:59

Re: 2006 game hints?
 
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Originally Posted by litchfieldc
Look at every game ever played for first, the main scoring object is 3-D. Maybe we'll use FLAT objects this year. After all, what is a baton but a flat piece of tubing.

Nope. One year ('98 maybe?) the game was played with things called floppies, which are basically flat donut shaped objects.

[EDIT]I stand corrected. But in the scheme of things, 2 inches is still pretty flat compared to a 12 in tetra or playground ball. Or maybe I'm just stubborn.[/EDIT]

EricH 21-11-2005 15:38

Re: 2006 game hints?
 
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Originally Posted by iCurtis
Nope. One year ('98 maybe?) the game was played with things called floppies, which are basically flat donut shaped objects.

They were NOT flat, they were large discs about 2-3 inches high with Velcro on the edges. The year? 1999

Oh, and Petey, there is not really a pattern. It's been mostly balls since 1999, with 2003 and 2005 as exceptions. The field elements are where you need to look for the triangle, circle, square pattern (which tells me that there will likely be a triangular ramp of some form.)

craigcd 21-11-2005 15:41

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ALPHASTRYK may be going in the right direction. Think of the bowling pin as a baton shaped object. Scatter the pins (fox in the hen house) at the beginning by the autonomous mode and having to replace them in the driver mode. Or placing them in order in the driver mode and an knocking them down in the autonomous mode at the end. Bowling pins are placed in the form of a triangle. Question: Did the vikings invent bowling?

billbo911 21-11-2005 17:17

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Originally Posted by craigcd
Question: Did the vikings invent bowling?

A quick Google found:
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Originally Posted by Google
Question: Who invented bowling?

Answer: Archaeologists have discovered bowling balls, pins and other equipment in an Egyptian child's grave dating back to 5200 B.C. So we know that Egyptians were playing a form of bowling centuries ago. In Germany, back in A.D. 200, village dances and celebrations included a similar form of the game -- they rolled stones at nine wooden clubs called kegles. Bowlers in Germany are sometimes still referred to as "keglers"......

This was found at http://www.cubed.com/users/allure/FAQ2.HTML

So, I guess he answer to your question is no. :(
So much for the connection between bowling and the "Viking Death Ship" hint. For that I think we need to foucs on the letters VDS. :confused:

teamtestbot 21-11-2005 18:36

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I'm still stuck on the whole shopping cart deal.

Maybe the game objects are to be picked up and hoarded after being scattered?

Wetzel 21-11-2005 19:14

Re: 2006 game hints?
 
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Originally Posted by iCurtis
Nope. One year ('98 maybe?) the game was played with things called floppies, which are basically flat donut shaped objects.

I found a picture of a floppy in flight. I still have one or two in my room, I use them in conjuction with my beanbag.

Wetzel

vic burg 21-11-2005 20:22

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well, going along with the floppy idea, since there is a pattern, maybe it is that it is similar to the floppy but in a triangle shape, where we are in pairs or threes again and must pass them along to one side of the Field. that would incorporate all of the rumors.... however it could be that Dave is simply messing with us because it is fun to see what we come up with....
but from looking at the past things, i would have to say that maybe even we may have all three shapes, boxes, triangles and circles, where they are up in a net sort of thing(going along with the rain/snow idea) and we have to release them by pulling out a baton type thing, putting the baton thing somewhere special and putting the shapes in piles?
that would be interesting....
or maybe the field is in the shape of a triangle, where we must move baton like things(PVC, what the tetras were made of last year) into triangle shapes?
that would odd.... how would that work.....
oh, or maybe, oh, i like this one, we have to put our human players in the Field, they get buried under something (that the robot has to bury them under) and then they must use a triangle shaped floppy to get them out, kinda of like a lifesaver, incorporating the water, but maybe its a bit harder where the human player is in something and it like jenga.... wow, okay my mind is running wild and crazy now.....
anyone like my ideas? lol :D
I'm a crazy dork i know but hey, everyone seems to love it! lol (very happy that we are getting closer to FIRST!)

Andrew Blair 21-11-2005 20:34

Re: 2006 game hints?
 
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Originally Posted by vic burg
oh, or maybe, oh, i like this one, we have to put our human players in the Field, they get buried under something (that the robot has to bury them under) and then they must use a triangle shaped floppy to get them out, kinda of like a lifesaver...

Okay I see it now, the first game where kids would rather sit on the sidelines than be on the drive team as human player. The paramedics at the competition will finally have something to keep them busy! Haha, here we go: the Comau Pico machinists and the paramedics can sit around the water cooler and swap stories about how they fixed up different teams! :D

lol, I'm just kidding. the human player concept would require some better human interface thought, rather than the typical build the robot, then figure out how the student will not get killed standing close to it. And paramedics and Comau Pico people really do keep teams alive. Whether it be someone hurting themselves while hitting something with a hammer, or fixing the thing the student hit with the hammer, they all keep us running at competitions.

Swampdude 21-11-2005 21:10

Re: 2006 game hints?
 
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Originally Posted by dlavery
We also learned we don't want to see you in a sparkly leotard! :ahh:

-dave

I think we're due for a photoshop of Bill Beatty working on his baton twirling. Or Dave, maybe Heidi can get started on your next famous pose!

Koko Ed 21-11-2005 21:35

Re: 2006 game hints?
 
It's amazing the amount of milage these threads get.
Just 46 days to kickoff kids.
Hang in there.


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