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BFireball8 01-05-2002 16:19

Whats your opinon of 173
 
What is your honest opinion of RAGE 173. Being on the team, i dont get to hear any of the comments about our team or robot, so fill me in. What did you like or didnt like, just say anything. In the final round of the nationals, did you think our alliance was done for when 71 was out?

SharkBite 01-05-2002 19:16

well, from what i saw your driving was awesome

ajlapp 01-05-2002 19:18

one of the best
 
in my honest and not humble opinion 173 is one of the top teams in the country. the ball handling is top notch and the robot performed it's tasks flawlessly. Well Done!

DougHogg 01-05-2002 19:56

Opinions on Team 173
 
In my opinion, Team 173's robot was ... dynamite! Our robot is also a ball handler, so we were happy to see another ball handler among the Championship winners.

I was particularly impressed with your driving skill. You guys zoomed around the field. Also your ball mechanism was inspired. We used pneumatics to dump our basket. I was impressed with the fact that you were able to handle your basket using only motors, especially since you put your basket through some elaborate motions.

I came over to check out your robot after the whole event. I liked your gear shift mechanism, particularly the use of latex tube as a tensioning device in your shifters.

We had a gear shift also, but we changed gears on both motors with one servo. Even though I did see your mechanism at the event, I would love to see a picture of your gear shifter as I don't remember the details.

We are rookies and pretty much stayed in low gear. In high gear, we tended to blow fuses if we turned suddenly. Also we had had some gear grinding on a few occasions so we were a bit nervous about shifting. Did you have any such problems? If not, what was the solution?

One other question: Did your driver use one joystick or two for steering?

Anyway, congratuations. You made us ball handlers proud. After all, if there were no ball handlers on the winning alliance, that would have made it look like all the ball handlers made poor choices in their overall design strategy.

157#1Driver 01-05-2002 20:02

173 robot was a site to see. I know that we had our little thing down in CT when we didn't pick, which we should have, you still are one of the best out there and you showed us all you are. Nice job 173.

George1902 01-05-2002 20:58

i have to be honest... after 71 went down, i was drooling and imagining those pretty gold medals.......

you guys put up a helluva fight! congrats!

silver ain't too bad, i guess =-]

George
SPAM
Team 180

Kyle Hill 01-05-2002 21:36

Up there with Beatty and Kingman for one of the best robots. EVER.

Anything else I say will cheapen that.

Marc P. 01-05-2002 21:38

173
 
Congratulations 173! Great job!!

My biggest impression of this year was a little odd to be honest. My first year in FIRST was in the 2000 season, and the 173 robot stuck out in the back of my mind for some reason, maybe it's grace, it's dependability, it's ease of use picking up balls. At the UTC Suffield scrimmage this year, I did a doubletake as Rage walked in. The familiar design played through the back of my head again, and matched with the same impression of 2000. There's an expression I know of... stick with what works :)

It was an awesome bot in 2000, and you guys did even better this year :cool:

If I get not lazy, I'll post some pictures from the 2000 regional I have on video of 173 (since it stuck out in my mind I took lots of video), and maybe compare the 2 :) I loved it then and I love it now ;)

The Lucas 01-05-2002 23:43

Fast
 
You guys were fast in every aspect of the word. In our match against you, You beat us to the goals so you got one before our wing could. Then you quickly put 22 balls in it to win the match. I wish we could have faced you in the Newton SemiFinals.
Congrats on the National Championship!

Jason Haaga 02-05-2002 11:38

Re: Opinions on Team 173
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DougHogg
I came over to check out your robot after the whole event. I liked your gear shift mechanism, particularly the use of latex tube as a tensioning device in your shifters.

We had a gear shift also, but we changed gears on both motors with one servo. Even though I did see your mechanism at the event, I would love to see a picture of your gear shifter as I don't remember the details.

We are rookies and pretty much stayed in low gear. In high gear, we tended to blow fuses if we turned suddenly. Also we had had some gear grinding on a few occasions so we were a bit nervous about shifting. Did you have any such problems? If not, what was the solution?

One other question: Did your driver use one joystick or two for steering?

Our shifter's pretty simple (I'll try to find a pic for you). Uses two servos to shift the drill motors (one tended to be a little unreliable). The gear grinding is from not shifting into gear fully. What we did to correct this was place limit switches on the shifting hoop to detect when the motors were actually in gear or not. Until the shift was completed, the program ignored any input from the driver and pulsed the motors lightly until it clicked into gear (significantly reduced wear and tear on the robot's drive train). In high gear, we could not turn from a dead stop well (or at all mostly), the motors just stalled out even trying to turn, but we had no problems with fuses. As for steering, we used one joystick with a modified tank drive routine to get more manueverability than the default code.

Jim Meyer 02-05-2002 16:41

173... Top Dog
 
In my opinion, 173 outright earned the championship, with or without Beatty. After watching you guys beat us by towing team 65 (Winner of the very competitive Great Lakes Regional) around and still pick up 12 balls to win, I knew you guys would go all the way. Beatty and Kingman were one trick wonders. You guys could do it all.

Digo 02-05-2002 17:36

I was very excited when I saw that 71 wasn't there for the last match, and it was awesome to see that 173 and 66 deserved to be there and that they didn't win just because of 71. They had great machines too and won by themselves.

A curiosity: 71 didn't play the last match because of a broken wheel or because their opponents already knew how to stop them?

BFireball8 02-05-2002 17:45

im pretty sure they had a broken wheel

Jeff Rodriguez 02-05-2002 20:43

Quote:

Originally posted by Digo
I was very excited when I saw that 71 wasn't there for the last match, and it was awesome to see that 173 and 66 deserved to be there and that they didn't win just because of 71. They had great machines too and won by themselves.

A curiosity: 71 didn't play the last match because of a broken wheel or because their opponents already knew how to stop them?

Yeah they had a broken wheel. When spam turned the sideways, it ripped part of their wheels up, because it too was made of filecard.

Elyse Holguin 02-05-2002 23:05

I love 173. This could because you guys did a lot of work (66 too) and we were paired with you guys (thanks X 100000). But you deserved it a lot more than we do this time. And Kingman and SPAM, you guys were some of the scariest opponents ever. I couldn't even watch the last match, no joke. I was huddled under a seat or something, until the last seconds when I was forced to watch it. I still get a really tense stomach just thinking about it. To everyone that was there, you all did an awesome job.
And man, I hate file cards.

sidewinder 03-05-2002 00:17

You guys rock
 
I was up there and saw it all, Rage was an amazing bot. Your speed and ball manipulation were nearly unmatched. Our aliance was one of the only ones that could win on balls or goal depending on who we sent out. I loved that u could sit in our scouring zone with a goal and still do balls, (winning a few matches). And i personally liked one aspect of your bot best of all. While often overlooked, that little hand of your was the second best proviscus i saw in the whole competition (right after our own), seeing that little hand cross the line at wierd angles was always a thrill to see.


Props also to our new friend (former foe) beatty. Your guys are the best multiple goal, and robot hauler (67) I have ever seen. I'm glad we could make up for nationals (lol), we know u helped to get us picked and we appreciate it. Your tongue was cool too, ( but i liked the min bot from grand rapids better myself).

Much thankz.

66

Jon K. 04-05-2002 12:58

that little hand was a team members reduced to 60% and it was traced after she had jammed one of her fingers at the long island regional it is entitled "Lisa's Hand"

mpking 06-05-2002 00:40

Re: You guys rock
 
Quote:

[i]While often overlooked, that little hand of your was the second best proviscus i saw in the whole competition (right after our own), seeing that little hand cross the line at wierd angles was always a thrill to see.
[/b]

Proviscus?? Man with the large words late at night.


What did you think of our "Magic Carpet"?

Jeff Rodriguez 07-05-2002 15:56

You carpet was good, but nothing matches the mini bot of 66

jyax82 07-05-2002 17:52

You guys have one of the best and most versitle bot I have ever seen. It was just unbelieveable. And by the way our mini bot was awesome.

jason team66

Steve Prairie 07-05-2002 18:35

What's your opinion of the 173 alliance
 
Thanks for the positive comments, we were just one of the many many "great" robots in Newton, nevermind Florida.

Though I think a better question would be what's your opinion of the 173, 71, 66 alliance. Obviously we won it all, but we wouldn't have even won the Newton division without any one of us. What was your reaction when we picked 71, 66? or when we almost lost to the 176 alliance? etc...

Just a thought... granted its a moot point...

-Steve

fast frank 07-05-2002 20:33

to be perfectly honest, i believe that if you didn't pick 71, you wouldn't have won. we have beaten you in a qualification match. and i believe we could have beaten you in the finals if you didn't have 71. we swept the quarter and semi finals only to get swept by 71 in the finals. both matches you guys had the same strategy. i know our friends at 716 could have kept you away from the balls and goals, like they have done before at new haven, but unfortunately, they had some battery and transmission problems. 66 was a strong robot too, they were able to push us around a little, well, enough to break one of our wheels. i still have to congradulate you on being one of the top teams though, good job.

by the way, that tether you added looked a little familiar...

SharkBite 07-05-2002 23:10

in 173s defense i think it was a well matched alliance...... you see, 173 may have needed 71 in that one match, but im sure there where others where 173 saved the match (i saw at least one)...... and 66 was strong enough to keep it smooth

sidewinder 07-05-2002 23:12

a little bitter
 
I was thrilled you picked us for your alliance, but i was incredibly dusapointed that u picked 71 (at first). I has spent weeks thinking of beatty's small flaws and how to exploite them. And frankly, i thought they could be beaten fairly easily, and we were just the bot to do it, I;m glad to see that instead of turning um around, we could keep um from gettin turned.

After that first match, i was sure we were gone, little did i know how effective our alliance was when used properly. We were unbeatable.

kane 08-05-2002 14:12

I think hitting the goal really hard just as beatty hits it works a lot better than just trying to turn them. But thats just me. 173 had a good robot i won them the finals (if only fluffy could pull as well as she pushes).

Joe Matt 08-05-2002 14:31

When I first saw your robot at Newton, I emediatly made a note that if we were top 8, you guys would be top choice. You did it all, this is what Dean and Woody thought up when they made the game, a ball handaler that moves and handles the goals effortesly.

Great job.


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