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JVN 07-12-2005 12:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Dillard
The wheels are delivered without the tread attached?
The wheels come unassembled, as a kit.
The tread will be cut to length, and included in the kit.

We did this to:
  1. Make packaging/shipping easier.
  2. Reduce Labor Costs
We figured, teams have lots of cheap labor they can use. These wheels are simple enough that anyone can build them.

Gary Dillard 07-12-2005 13:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JVN
We figured, teams have lots of cheap labor they can use.
Are you referring to the S.P.A.M. sweat shops again? Am I going to have to send Arefin over to "discuss" this with you?

rrh1022 07-12-2005 13:35
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Guess who's wheel this is from 2005 competition?

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/pics/bin/113397174722.jpg
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/pics/bin/113397183997.jpg

JVN 07-12-2005 13:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rrh1022
Guess who's wheel this is from 2005 competition?
Is the outside ring sheet-metal as well?
Or is it a tube, cut to width?

rrh1022 07-12-2005 14:39
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The outside ring is made of stacked sheet metal rings. You may want to try that.

artdutra04 07-12-2005 14:43
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Does anyone want to see [somewhat] destructive testing of the new IFI wheels? ;)

http://www.vexlabs.com/video/IFI-Wheel_test.wmv


EDIT: I thought I was the first person to find the video on VexLabs, but Adrienne E. had posted it in this thread last night. :o

sciguy125 07-12-2005 18:42
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Originally Posted by dlavery
Did John just drop a hint????!!

Yippee! Someone else that can have their every word over-analyzed, mis-read, inverted, converted, perverted, misinterpreted, reverted, and garbled besides just me!

OK, now on three, everyone go back through every post John has made in the last seventeen months, and you will find clues to at least half of the upcoming game. Ready - 1 - 2 - 3!!! :)
Wait...so does that means that the hint is true? Or maybe this is a hint in and of itself.

The 2006 game will obviously have some sort of countdown. And there's also going to be some kind of ambiguity to the game. I suspect some sort of non-rigid, possibly fluid scoring object.

Arkorobotics 07-12-2005 19:20
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Originally Posted by sciguy125
Wait...so does that means that the hint is true? Or maybe this is a hint in and of itself.

The 2006 game will obviously have some sort of countdown. And there's also going to be some kind of ambiguity to the game. I suspect some sort of non-rigid, possibly fluid scoring object.
Countdown... ohhh that's unheard of...

I am sure that Dave is just playing games with us... Games that might be true... :eek:

Ian Curtis 07-12-2005 21:39
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Originally Posted by Arkorobotics
Countdown... ohhh that's unheard of...
Actually, it's not. In 2001 a game called Diabolical Dynamics was played in which the game was 4v0. By ending the match early, you recieved a multiplier to your score.

Oh and uh, sweet wheels!

Andrew Blair 07-12-2005 21:52
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I really liked the idea of the game with the balancing ramp(was it diabolical dynamics?). It was a task a little more intensive than just hanging: you actually had to balance the thing. Sensors did not need to be employed, but they made the game easier. A physics challenge that was challenging! Now if we can only get a three team ramp...

ChuckDickerson 09-12-2005 23:11
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Ooooh, prices, specs, pictures galore now posted!

http://www.ifirobotics.com/robot-traction-wheels.shtml

Cory 09-12-2005 23:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Blair
I really liked the idea of the game with the balancing ramp(was it diabolical dynamics?). It was a task a little more intensive than just hanging: you actually had to balance the thing. Sensors did not need to be employed, but they made the game easier. A physics challenge that was challenging! Now if we can only get a three team ramp...
It sounds cool... until you realize that it was 4v0.

It was fairly interesting from a competitor's standpoint, just to see who could set the highest score.

It was pure hell to watch as a spectator without prior knowledge of the game.

And the elims were for the most part already decided as soon as the match pairings were released.

robot-robot interaction is WAY more exciting.

Ricky Q. 10-12-2005 01:08
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Back to the wheels...

Not a bad price for what you get.

Nice work IFI. We may see these wheels on a lot of bots in 2006.

sciencenerd 10-12-2005 02:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sciguy125
Is that a game hint? Does that mean we'll need more traction next year?
You always need more traction. ;) The question is, will we be able to use it?

Andrew Blair 10-12-2005 13:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cory
It sounds cool... until you realize that it was 4v0.

It was fairly interesting from a competitor's standpoint, just to see who could set the highest score.

It was pure hell to watch as a spectator without prior knowledge of the game.

And the elims were for the most part already decided as soon as the match pairings were released.

robot-robot interaction is WAY more exciting.
Yeah, I guess the fact that I was a 11 year old kid kid who couldn't even get his lego robot to compete had a lot to do with my perception of the competition.:)

I am looking forward to a drivetrain intensive year. It seemed as though this year, because of the field, there were the teams, then the teams with the holonomic drives. They were cool, but it wasn't real diverse.


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