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Joel J 04-03-2006 19:14

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Any video of this far out performance?

Any at all?

JoeCallahan 04-03-2006 19:28

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
It was a great time...

25 indeed had an amazing bot, I was the Human Player for team 486 on alliance two (whom faced the 25 alliance in the finals.)

Good job 25, and congrats to everyone, everyone did well.

Special thanks to team 1860 from Brazil who played this game like it was their job in the quarter finals, semi finals, and finals.

And, of course, thanks to team 375 for creating such a great alliance and doing a great job.

Kristian Calhoun 04-03-2006 19:29

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Conor Ryan
25 is the most dominating robot I've ever seen, it gives 71 in 2001 a great run for its money.

[*]NJ Highest Score-133 (with 486 and 225)[/list]Bravo!

Just for clarification it was 137 points. Also, our team has video of every match (qualifiying and eliminations), however i do not know if they are or aren't going to be hosted. Shout outs, thanks, and congrats to all the other amazing teams, our alliance partners, 103 and 1279, the AMAZING MR. COKELEY, and bharat, corey, allison, neil, the BMS guys, and anyone and everyone else who helped make everything run along smoothly and for helping us out. This was the first regional that I have ever attended, and it was one of the best weekends in my life! Now I really can't wait until the Las Vegas Regional and Nationals!

JoeCallahan 04-03-2006 19:41

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
We were the team (along with 225) who got 137 points with 25. That was an absolutely insane match... point after point after point, all the human robots just loaded up 25 to the top and he went and shot them all in... ended up being at least 24 of them including their autonomous, not to count Us and 225.

Tom Bottiglieri 04-03-2006 19:50

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Someone.

Video.

Soon.

Please?

David Guzman 04-03-2006 20:19

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Congrats to the winners 25, 103, and 1279.

After reading about all this great matches, I can't wait to see some video. I love 25's robot and can't wait to see it at the Championships.

Tom Bottiglieri 04-03-2006 20:26

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
For everyone at NJ, what made 25 so dominating?

Was their shooter more than ordinary?
Do they auto aim?
Was their drivetrain strong enough to overcome defense?
Was it the auto mode?

If you had to pick one best feature, what would it be?

JoeCallahan 04-03-2006 20:38

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri
For everyone at NJ, what made 25 so dominating?

Was their shooter more than ordinary?
Do they auto aim?
Was their drivetrain strong enough to overcome defense?
Was it the auto mode?

If you had to pick one best feature, what would it be?

Let's start from the top.

1. They're top-loading. During defense, they took their bot back and just top loaded it to full. (at least 15 balls)

2. Rotating shooter: Their shooter is low but it could rotate to aim without turning the robot (not 180 degrees, maybe 130).

3. Very accurate: I don't remember exactly what system they used, but it was very, very accurate.

4. Strong driving: Their bot, while thin, was very powerful and could push other bots out the way. Their only weakness was they were also very pushable when not specifically resisting that push. That's how we came 6 points from winning in the first match of the finals, we had 1860 turn them in autonomous.

If to point out any one thing I'd say the fact that it was top-loading was a huge advantage (though obviously they did some things better, seeing as other top loading teams like spike or some of the non-play-off bots were also top loading.)

They're also very hard to push over. Those bumpers stop them from falling almost every time.

In autonomous they kept changing how close to the goal they got to throw off our blocks, but they always went for the upper goal.

During manual mode, they had auto aim as well.

Very tough to overcome... It seems bots with auto-aim in manual mode did the best.

I'm tired, that's all I remember at this point.

kio_chan176 04-03-2006 20:41

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
The NJ Regional was absolutely AWESOME!!! That is positively the loudest I've ever screamed in my entire life. I'm a frosh, so this is my first competition and now I see why the upperclassmen are addicted to them. Our robot was better than I expected, I wasn't able to see it in action when our team held Robot Rally. But, I'm incredibly happy and tired at the same time right now. About the WFA, just 3 words: I LOVE COKELEY!!! I LOVE COKELEY!!! How was the bear hug? Haha. I was so stressed out about the finals, I was shaking and screaming. Haha. Yeah. I LOVE YOU BHARAT!!!! WOOOOO!!!!

Bharat Nain 04-03-2006 20:43

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeCallahan
3. Very accurate: I don't remember exactly what system they used, but it was very, very accurate.

The camera does all our aiming work. Most of the time I cannot see the bot when I shoot because there are 50 gazillion bots playing defense on us.

JoeCallahan 04-03-2006 20:46

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bharat Nain
The camera does all our aiming work. Most of the time I cannot see the bot when I shoot because there are 50 gazillion bots playing defense on us.

Well even once in a while, we (486) shot one a little off even with the camera working correctly, it might have just been how our shooting system was designed. If your guys' camera was working there was no way you were going to miss.

I should have looked more at the actual mechanism for nationals =P

Rich Wong 04-03-2006 21:02

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
CONGRATS TEAM 25!

REGIONAL CHAIRMAN'S
REGIONAL CHAMP
REGIONAL WFA

WOW!

WHAT'S LEFT????
:)

George A. 04-03-2006 21:03

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Team 25 was dominating, their shooter was dead on accurate, they could auto aim on the fly so even if you did manage to push them they just compensated, they were fast and strong at the same time. I would go far as to say that this robot was better then their robots from 2000 and 2003 (where they were National Champs and National Finalists respectively)

Congrats to 25 for going undefeated and to teams 103 and 1279 for winning NJ back to back years.


On another note, what did you guys think of the competition? How was my announcing? Was there anything I should work on, make better? Keep the same? I'm always looking for pointers, and any advice you could give would be a tremendous help (Btw I was the one that did the little flip/somersault during the one match)

JoeCallahan 04-03-2006 21:05

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by M.O.R.T.
On another note, what did you guys think of the competition? How was my announcing? Was there anything I should work on, make better? Keep the same? I'm always looking for pointers, and any advice you could give would be a tremendous help (Btw I was the one that did the little flip/somersault during the one match)

Ahh you did fine, the entire event was full of technical problems, though.

I suppose it can only be expected.

Conor Ryan 04-03-2006 21:06

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
We are working getting a video of 25 up, 293 is working on it too hopefully we'll have something by Monday night (maybe tommorow sometime).

Ok so now that the regional is over I might as well list my teams in order:
  1. 25
  2. 25
  3. 25
  4. 25
  5. 25- Thats how dominating they are
  6. 293- Awesome defence, these guys can shoot really well too
  7. 486- Second best offencive robot, pretty good at defence too
  8. 103- Well built robot, I thought it was underachieving, but they are a team to contend with
After those 4 teams it gets a bit confusing (in no specific order)
75, 303, 1089, 56, 1807, 102, 1279 there are a bunch more too

TOH 04-03-2006 21:16

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Congratulations to Team 25. Being a member of team 1257, it was great getting to team with you guys earlier this morning. Same goes for 1279, it was fun working with you guys. I really had a good time at the regional. I wish my team but chosen, but eh, it happens. Still feel kinda bummed about that, but I won't let that get in the way of what was a good time. I hope to become a mentor for my team next year, as I'm a senior. Hopefully we'll go to Trenton again and we can try to join you guys in the finals next year. Again, congratulations on a very dominating performance.

JoeCallahan 04-03-2006 21:18

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Conor Ryan
We are working getting a video of 25 up, 293 is working on it too hopefully we'll have something by Monday night (maybe tommorow sometime).

Ok so now that the regional is over I might as well list my teams in order:
  1. 25
  2. 25
  3. 25
  4. 25
  5. 25- Thats how dominating they are
  6. 293- Awesome defence, these guys can shoot really well too
  7. 486- Second best offencive robot, pretty good at defence too
  8. 103- Well built robot, I thought it was underachieving, but they are a team to contend with
After those 4 teams it gets a bit confusing (in no specific order)
75, 303, 1089, 56, 1807, 102, 1279 there are a bunch more too

Spike (293) had a great robot, unfortunately they really got unlucky throughout the competition. They didn't have a great seat by the time we picked teams, though they were still picked third.

I had originally hoped that our alliance would be 375-486-293, but spike was quickly chosen, and (obviously) 1860 turned out to do a great job. I recall that moment when spike almost pushed 25 over but instead they came back and pushed spike over. :(

Plus we think one of our team members is the American long-lost twin of one of the 1860 Brazillian team. They look a lot alike.

sw293 04-03-2006 21:29

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[quote=Mercury Rising]Whew our semi-finals almost made me lose the control of my bowels when Spike almost tipped us over[quote]

You should not have worried. Our drivers saw you tipping over and we pulled back. We don't play dirty. Never have, never will.

Congratulations on a well-deserved win.

Congrats also to the new BMS team 1807 Allentown who managed to pull off a win in the rubber match of the quarterfinals when their alliance partners had both fallen over. Thanks to 563 for making our great alliance possible. We ran into a juggernaut against whom we needed to play perfect to win, and we came up short.

Congrats to 293's drive team who overcame a lot of adversity to become one of the best, most coordinated, most strategically adept units at the competition. You four know what I'm talking about.

Most importantly, thanks to head ref Sky Morehouse for yet another well-run event. The officiating at Trenton is incredibly consistent not just from match to match but from year to year. Refs only seem to get noticed for the bad calls, but I think it's important to give them credit for a job well done, especially when they've made a habit of doing it right.

nuggetsyl 04-03-2006 22:02

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Thank you everyone for the kind words about our team. We got some lucky breaks today and try to make the best of everything that was throw at us. The semi finals and finals matches we very hard fought ones and we are happy to have gotten away with wins. I was extreamly suprised of how well everone did in the playoffs and it made a great compition to watch. We will do our best to step it up for nationals to make nj and bms proud. I think tomorrow will be a well needed sleep day for me.

thanks again

shaun

ps thanks 103 for helping us with chairmans
and thank you 1089 with the wfa

av11d 04-03-2006 22:16

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
25 put on an amazing show in nj. Champs, WFA, Chairmans, Highest Score, Top Seed... and deserving of them all. Congrats guys, it was your year! Special congrats to all the awesome seniors on your team! Just amazing.. all around.

Special thanks to our alliance partners, 223 and 522. We put on a great show. Beating 3rd seed and then coming close to knocking out 2nd seed. Great job.

Also another shout out to teams 1403, 25, etc. and many more who helped us when we needed help and provided advice. Thanks for lending us some last-minute equipment/parts monty!

We'll see most of you at nats. Which we're GOING TO NOW! Because we won Engineering Inspiration and qualify!! YES!!

But anyway, this was my fourth year at NJ... and it was by far the best! THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO MADE NJ SO AWESOME!

BandChick 04-03-2006 22:19

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Thanks Shaun, but Mr. Cokeley does more for our team than I think he realizes. Mr. Cokeley really is a mentor, and a substitute parent for SO many of our team members. I could not imagine a better person to win this award.

I think 1089 is more proud to see our mentors and role models not only WIN the regional, but come home with the two awards they so justly deserve. Congratulations on winning Chairman's and Woodie Flowers! I can't wait to see you guys in Atlanta!

Congratulations to our rookies, 1807 on Rookie All Star! (see, it's all that influence from 25's mentoring that started this)
Thanks always to our alliance partners 381 (go BMS!) and 102!

Spiffizzle 04-03-2006 23:02

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
First of all, congrats to 25, 103, 1279 on their win!
You guys played some awesome matches!

Next, congrats to all the teams on their respective awards, which I will not name in fear I will forget one.

The regional was great! I know I was covered in buttons and other such objects and lived in the mascot pit the whole time! Anyone who got down there experienced the amazing insanity!

I'm so happy my first regional experience was this positive of an experience to make me want to come back... especially to see all the friends I've made!

Thanks to all for making it such a great regional!!!

petek 04-03-2006 23:09

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Thanks to everyone who made the 2006 NJ Regional such a great event. The competition was outstanding - especially on Saturday - as was the teams' spirit.
This was my first FIRST event as FTA (I was the guy trying to keep the field working) and you guys made it a really memorable one. I'd like to add my thanks to some of the people who kept things rolling and helped us work though the first week kinks:

Sarah, our good scoring fairy whose patience and deft touch kept scoring on track (the field only gave problems when I didn't listen to her!).

George, The Voice of NJ - I am still in awe that you were able to work "propane and propane accessories" into the play-by-play and make it fit!

Tom and John, our IFI heros from Texas, who helped us keep most of the magic smoke where it belongs (inside robots and field control).

John, our Field Manager - if it weren't for your whip-cracking we might still be there!

and Paul Kloberg - for letting me practice for next week's Pittsburgh regional on his field - hope you miss your field so much you follow it out there!

But mostly I'd like to thank all the teams who played so hard and fairly - it was a pleasure to watch!

galewind 04-03-2006 23:10

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pacoliketaco
Thanks to all of the teams who made this possible for us at the NJ regionals.
Teams: 25, 1089, 293, 563, 381

Pace, Congrats again to you guys on your Rookie All-Star award!! You guys are awesome!! Thanks for showing us all that even rookies can kick butt! You played great!

galewind 04-03-2006 23:13

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri
For everyone at NJ, what made 25 so dominating?

Was their shooter more than ordinary?
Do they auto aim?
Was their drivetrain strong enough to overcome defense?
Was it the auto mode?

yes

Spikey 05-03-2006 00:18

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Congrats to all at Trenton, I wish I could be there, but I was there in spirit! Some of you may have seen me up on the FIRST Alumni Presentation:D
Congrats to 25 for winning!

Also mad props to my homes Team 293, we had a lot of bad luck and our record did not show how well our robot was built. Our quality really got noticed for the playoffs, being picked 4th not to shabby. We got unlucky flipping over, hopefully that can be fixed. I can't wait to see the robot in person, all I get is pictures and videos from afar, and during the regional my experience was play by play from a cell phone:(

I will be at the Annapolis Regional! Getting to break into my mentoring shoes, hopefully Team 293 can kick it up a notch there!

Again congrats to all teams and I miss the truly unique experience that is the NJ regional!

YonZ 05-03-2006 00:19

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
A bunch of our team members went to the saturday of the NJ regional to scout and the like. We have put a few videos of the finals matches up on our website here:

http://www.stuypulse.com/download_06.html

It's up in both WMA and MOV, and it all works now (if you checked back before I edited this post)

CatchRothy22 05-03-2006 01:00

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by M.O.R.T.
How was my announcing?

Awesome. :cool:

Bharat Nain 05-03-2006 08:09

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
There are many people I want to thank for making this competition so great. Thank you to Mike Wade for the machine shop, the field setup and take down crew so we could have fun on the field, Senior mentor Paul Kloberg for ensuring the smooth running of the competition. The field crew and IFI guys did an awesome job dealing with the minor problems on the field[although the problems were very irritating]. The referee and judging crew is one of the best I have seen in FIRST. Next I would like to thank our alliance partners 103 and 1279. It was a pleasure working with you guys. Last but not the least I would like to thank people on my team - Wayne Cokeley, Shaun, Bristol Myers guys(it would not be possible to create such an elegant machine without them), the pit crew, Scouting crew(I don't think we would have had 1279 on our list if it wasnt for the scouting crew recognizing their importance), the programmers and the drive team fellas(Corey and Vishal) for working well together. It has been a blast. Congratulations to all teams who won numerous awards at NJ. I was very happy to see our sister team 1089 win 2 awards this year - they totally earned it. Congratulations Mr. Cokeley for the WFA - you absolutely deserved it.
That's all for now.
-Bharat

julivan 05-03-2006 08:40

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
brasil foi vice campeao de 2006 ,
detalhe um time de primeiro ano.........1860 go

JoeCallahan 05-03-2006 09:55

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YonZ
A bunch of our team members went to the saturday of the NJ regional to scout and the like. We have put a few videos of the finals matches up on our website here:

http://www.stuypulse.com/download_06.html

Note: I'm not so sure that clicking the link works. If not, right click and select the option to save the link.

Oh come on, you know you want to put up finals round 1 =P

I know you got it on camera xD

That's the round where brazil successfully messed up 25's autonomy.

nuggetsyl 05-03-2006 10:13

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeCallahan
Oh come on, you know you want to put up finals round 1 =P

I know you got it on camera xD

That's the round where brazil successfully messed up 25's autonomy.

Yep brazil did a great job of stopping our auto mode the first time. In fact it was the first time in the reagional we had to change our auto mode to counter it. Being behind in the first match was hard to over come but 1279 and 103 both came though and we were lucky to get away with a win. I think 375 team they put together could have won anywhere there a great team and i am sure they will keep us on our toes next year.

shaun

JoeCallahan 05-03-2006 10:21

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nuggetsyl
Yep brazil did a great job of stopping our auto mode the first time. In fact it was the first time in the reagional we had to change our auto mode to counter it. Being behind in the first match was hard to over come but 1279 and 103 both came though and we were lucky to get away with a win. I think 375 team they put together could have won anywhere there a great team and i am sure they will keep us on our toes next year.

shaun

I didn't even think to tell Brazil that you'd change your autonomy, I think we were too 'in the moment' as it were.

Did you already have an autonomous mode that changed your position to that or did you quickly write one and load it onto it in the 6 minute interval?

Chrisms 05-03-2006 10:24

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by petek
George, The Voice of NJ - I am still in awe that you were able to work "propane and propane accessories" into the play-by-play and make it fit!


ahh! i missed it!

George was in our pit yesterday morning and showed us the list of things he had to work into his play-by-play... I only caught one of them. something about a team chasing after another team like they were on a pig hunt or something.

I'm really curious, how DID he work that into his play-by-play? I'm kinda disappointed that i either was in the pit when he said it, or didn't catch it.

Thanks so much to everyone who made the regional possible, it was a blast!

and a special thanks to George for flipping for our team:-D Too bad you can't be in SC with us, enjoy Philly!

nuggetsyl 05-03-2006 10:26

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeCallahan
I didn't even think to tell Brazil that you'd change your autonomy, I think we were too 'in the moment' as it were.

Did you already have an autonomous mode that changed your position to that or did you quickly write one and load it onto it in the 6 minute interval?

we have 8 to choose from but did not want to play around since thursday we were still working out a few problems. Our next regional we will have couple different ones to run since i have a feeling the defence in auto is going to pick up as the weeks progress.

shaun

tfedullo 05-03-2006 11:58

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
25, 103, and 1279 you guys had a amazing alliance, if we had to lose to anyone I'm glad it was you guys.
486, and 1860 you guys were amazing and i don't think i would have wanted anyone else on our alliance.

PS
does anyone have a video of the finals match one?
our camera guy forget to hit record...

Rohith Surampudi 05-03-2006 13:15

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Congratulations 25,103,1279. You guys were amazing.


Look out for these teams at Nationals. They are a killer combo.

They all have the ability to climb the ramp, even though they score enough points that it doesn't matter. They have killer autonomous modes, where they score almost every ball they have, lastly they have the drivers, and teamwork to get the job done.

A heads up, these guys together score around 90 points every match.


and Congratulations again to 25 for their winning of Chairmans.

Billfred 05-03-2006 13:20

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
I'm just wondering, as a point of clarification--did the judges award the WFA Finalist to Wayne Cokeley of 25, or Wayne Cokeley of 1089?

Corey Balint 05-03-2006 13:27

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
It was two separate essays that were submitted. Cokeley is on 25.

Mark McLeod 05-03-2006 13:28

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
We visited NJ for that great Finals show on Saturday. I found the game in the finals to be very exciting, fast paced and riveting. Congratulations to 25 / 103 / 1279 as well as their opponents 375 / 486 / 1860 for masterful play.

We've posted video of all the Finals matches here: http://team358.org/history/2006/videos/NJ_Regional/

Not all the links have videos behind them yet. They have all been edited from the tape, but the quarter final matches are still in the process of being uploaded. Apologies to some teams who had great team action missed as the video zooms in to get a closer look at the robots.

Meyerman 05-03-2006 13:29

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billfred
I'm just wondering, as a point of clarification--did the judges award the WFA Finalist to Wayne Cokeley of 25, or Wayne Cokeley of 1089?

when they announced his name im pretty sure they said team 25 raider robotix.

galewind 05-03-2006 13:47

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billfred
I'm just wondering, as a point of clarification--did the judges award the WFA Finalist to Wayne Cokeley of 25, or Wayne Cokeley of 1089?

Cokeley is from 25, but he essentially founded team 1089 and the quote that they gave in the award announcement was from 1089's WFA essay submission.

Waynep 05-03-2006 14:10

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
It's been said a million times, but here's mine. Congratulations to the #1 and #2 alliance, Team 25 for their sweeping accomplishements, and especially to Wayne C for the Regional WFA. Also, congratulations and thank you to all of the teams that participated. You were a great crowd and really impressed me with my first trip to the NJ Regional! Last but not least, I wanted to thank Chiniqua and George for letting me share their spotlight. It was truly a pleasure and honor working with both of you. Good luck to all the teams participating at other regionals and the championship. I hope to see you guys in ATL or next year at NJ.
Best,
Wayne

Wayne C. 05-03-2006 14:20

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billfred
I'm just wondering, as a point of clarification--did the judges award the WFA Finalist to Wayne Cokeley of 25, or Wayne Cokeley of 1089?


Actually there are several Wayne Cokeleys circulating around. We cloned him in 2001. This is his evil twin Mordechai responding.....

:cool:

WC 3

Koko Ed 05-03-2006 14:24

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
So Corey, do you still think the Chairmans should be lessened in Fantasy FIRST? :p
Congratulations to 25, 103 ( I really hope you guys come to Atlanta) and 1279. That was a heck of a show you guys put on.
I would also like to congratulate 375, 486 and especially 1860 (who our kids just loved to death. Your enthusiasm is what FIRST is all about. May you last for years to come) for putting up one heck of a battle. New Jersey was pure entertainment (in spite of the glitches).

DanDon 05-03-2006 14:31

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed
So Corey, do you still think the Chairmans should be lessened in Fantasy FIRST? :p
Congratulations to 25, 103 ( I really hope you guys come to Atlanta) and 1279. That was a heck of a show you guys put on.
I would also like to congratulate 375, 486 and especially 1860 (who our kids just loved to death. Your enthusiasm is what FIRST is all about. May you last for years to come) for putting up one heck of a battle. New Jersey was pure entertainment (in spite of the glitches).

Yes, 1860...you guys were amazing. I think that team single handedly had more fun than any of the other teams at the regional. The kids were so full of life, and just seeing how happy they were at the end of the regional made it all worth it.

Too bad they dont have enough money to come to nationals.

I can't wait to see everyone in Atlanta, and especially untill next year to see team 1860.

Team 358, any chance that you guys can post higher resolution videos sometime soon?

Thanks,

Koko Ed 05-03-2006 14:34

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dhoizner
Yes, 1860...you guys were amazing. I think that team single handedly had more fun than any of the other teams at the regional. The kids were so full of life, and just seeing how happy they were at the end of the regional made it all worth it.

Too bad they dont have enough money to come to nationals.

I can't wait to see everyone in Atlanta, and especially untill next year to see team 1860.

Team 358, any chance that you guys can post higher resolution videos sometime soon?

Thanks,

Rookie Inspiration doesn't qualify you for the championship anyways.

DanDon 05-03-2006 14:38

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed
Rookie Inspiration doesn't qualify you for the championship anyways.

I know, I was just referring to years to come, and how they only have enough money to attend one regional, and I wish that someone would help them and provide them with the opportunity to attend the championship.

petek 05-03-2006 14:48

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rvssnake
Congratulations 25,103,1279. You guys were amazing.
A heads up, these guys together score around 90 points every match.

QF1: 94 & 100 pts
SF1: 95 & 116 pts
F: 78 (to 71 - awesome defense!) & 96 pts
Average: 96.5 pts

This alliance's barrage kept the "ball motivator" hopping!

Bluesky55J 05-03-2006 14:52

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
I would like to say congrats to all the teams at NJ! you did a great job!

I want to send out a special congrats to 25 for everything they won at NJ, Even though they game me hell on the field! good job for being the only team to overload the scoring system every time!! lol.

Great job George! i love how you got hunting the wild pig into your vocab! amazing! i tell YOU what!!!!!!

To all those who helped me run smooth behind my scoring computer thank you!!! BOTH PK's are awsome!!!

To IFI i just want to say... MOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

anyway congrats to everyone agian!!! and thank you!!!!

Corey Balint 05-03-2006 15:01

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed
So Corey, do you still think the Chairmans should be lessened in Fantasy FIRST? :p
Congratulations to 25, 103 ( I really hope you guys come to Atlanta) and 1279. That was a heck of a show you guys put on.
I would also like to congratulate 375, 486 and especially 1860 (who our kids just loved to death. Your enthusiasm is what FIRST is all about. May you last for years to come) for putting up one heck of a battle. New Jersey was pure entertainment (in spite of the glitches).

Yeah Ed, i still think Chairmans should be lessened in Fantasy FIRST.

Koko Ed 05-03-2006 15:07

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey Balint
Yeah Ed, i still think Chairmans should be lessened in Fantasy FIRST.


coldfusion1279 05-03-2006 15:52

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
First of all, thanks to 25 and 103 for realizing our potential and helping us to our second straight nj championship, we couldn't have done it without you guys. Also excellent job to all of our competitors including 375, 486 and 1860, match 1 of the finals was exciting. Does anybody have the final rankings? I noticed they didn't have them up and running on a monitor after the last match and I think that really hurt some awesome teams like 1403 who were around 12th and had a lot of potential but werent picked. They also didn't show the final rankings ( to my knowledge) to the audience before the alliance selections, so everybody was in the dark. Any idea why?

Mark McLeod 05-03-2006 15:54

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dhoizner
Team 358, any chance that you guys can post higher resolution videos sometime soon?

The link from where I'm sitting right now is kind of slow (QF 4-3 is finishing up now). Tomorrow I'll be at a faster uplink.
What resolution would you like to see?

Want me to mail you full resolutions of all your matches?

Conor Ryan 05-03-2006 16:07

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod
The link from where I'm sitting right now is kind of slow (QF 4-3 is finishing up now). Tomorrow I'll be at a faster uplink.
What resolution would you like to see?

Want me to mail you full resolutions of all your matches?

Google Video?

And the highest resolution you got, it's worth the wait.

Mark McLeod 05-03-2006 16:15

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Conor Ryan

Our Service Provider is plenty fast enough. It's my home link I'm having trouble with on a Sunday afternoon.:rolleyes: It'd be faster to sneaker-net it over to our webmaster's house and he's not that close.

Corey Balint 05-03-2006 16:28

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coldfusion1279
First of all, thanks to 25 and 103 for realizing our potential and helping us to our second straight nj championship, we couldn't have done it without you guys. Also excellent job to all of our competitors including 375, 486 and 1860, match 1 of the finals was exciting. Does anybody have the final rankings? I noticed they didn't have them up and running on a monitor after the last match and I think that really hurt some awesome teams like 1403 who were around 12th and had a lot of potential but werent picked. They also didn't show the final rankings ( to my knowledge) to the audience before the alliance selections, so everybody was in the dark. Any idea why?

You guys were incredible, we were flaberghasted that you were still around come the time of our second selection. We had you pegged as a mid First rounder for sure, and possibly higher.

Bluesky55J 05-03-2006 17:26

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coldfusion1279
First of all, thanks to 25 and 103 for realizing our potential and helping us to our second straight nj championship, we couldn't have done it without you guys. Also excellent job to all of our competitors including 375, 486 and 1860, match 1 of the finals was exciting. Does anybody have the final rankings? I noticed they didn't have them up and running on a monitor after the last match and I think that really hurt some awesome teams like 1403 who were around 12th and had a lot of potential but werent picked. They also didn't show the final rankings ( to my knowledge) to the audience before the alliance selections, so everybody was in the dark. Any idea why?

well the problem with rankings is a long and hard one to explain, but basically if you wanted ranking to work all the time and be correct, we would still be at the regional because it crashed the scoring computer. sorry to say we never did get a sure fix to that for this regional but there will be a patch out to fix that in the next weeks events.

CatchRothy22 05-03-2006 18:00

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kio_chan176
The NJ Regional was absolutely AWESOME!!! That is positively the loudest I've ever screamed in my entire life. I'm a frosh, so this is my first competition and now I see why the upperclassmen are addicted to them. Our robot was better than I expected, I wasn't able to see it in action when our team held Robot Rally. But, I'm incredibly happy and tired at the same time right now. About the WFA, just 3 words: I LOVE COKELEY!!! I LOVE COKELEY!!! How was the bear hug? Haha. I was so stressed out about the finals, I was shaking and screaming. Haha. Yeah. I LOVE YOU BHARAT!!!! WOOOOO!!!!

You can't out scream MORT. :D

Good job on the win!

George A. 05-03-2006 18:17

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CatchRothy22
You can't out scream MORT. :D

Good job on the win!


Partially due to the fact that you guys are like a quarter of the stadium ;) , but regardless that is the most spirited group of students I've seen on the team since I started with 11...wish I was going with you guys to Palmetto, but you can be sure I'll be cheering for you from the field in Philly

RoboticsPhyre 05-03-2006 18:22

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Congratulations to the winning alliance! We cheered for you guys alot when we wern't facing you.

Also, I think this is the correct place to say this (if not, please guide me to the correct place):

On Saturday, one of the members on my team lost a White Yankee's hat in our section of the stands. We were sitting in the first 6 rows right above the mascot pit. If anyone has seen it, has seen someone with it, or has it in their possesion because they saw it left behind, please let me know. He got the hat as a gift from his girlfriend just now over one week ago. We checked with lost and found and they didn't have it.

Thank you
~Alyssa~

JoeCallahan 05-03-2006 18:36

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Yeah, during the Quarter and Semi-finals, 1860 just stood in the box and danced until autonomous started. They had a lot of fun, and they were great to have on our team. It certainly lightened the mood between matches when each minute felt like an hour.

Chrisms 05-03-2006 21:08

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by M.O.R.T.
Partially due to the fact that you guys are like a quarter of the stadium ;)

pssh. only an eighth :p

and no one ever answered me. how did you work "propane and propane accessories" into your play by play?

kio_chan176 05-03-2006 22:09

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CatchRothy22
You can't out scream MORT. :D

Good job on the win!

Haha. I could never out scream you guys and I'm not going to try.

IraJason 05-03-2006 23:27

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Me and another member of my team went to the NJ regional on Saturday to scout and I have just one word to say: Amazing!

Congratulations to teams 25, 103, and 1279 for coming out on top! Team 25 was just unstoppable out there, with 103 and 1279 both being amazing shooters to add to it! :yikes: Being able to go to the competition and see all the different people and robots was just a great experience, especially for someone who has not been to a regional before. I'm looking forward to when our team competes at the Philly Regional and is able to see team 103 and all the others at NJ going to Philly! It already looks like it will be a great event!

Lastly, thanks to team 341 for allowing me and my other team member to ride on their bus to and from the NJ regional. Sure, we had to pass by our houses again both to and from NJ, but it was worth it to see all these amazing robots and teams in action. Great job by everyone!

-Ira

George A. 06-03-2006 00:17

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Does anyone have video footage of match 67? That's the match were I was the MC and did the flip on the field....I really wanna see that on film...if anyone can help me get a copy of that I'd be your best friend...

Thanks in advance.

Mark McLeod 06-03-2006 13:56

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Full resolution of the Finals and Semifinals have been uploaded. The files are 37-45MB and compressed somewhat.
http://team358.org/history/2006/videos/NJ_Regional/

Elgin Clock 06-03-2006 14:38

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod
Full resolution of the Finals and Semifinals have been uploaded. The files are 37-45MB and compressed somewhat.
http://team358.org/history/2006/videos/NJ_Regional/

Any possibility of offering (even a really low quality) windows media version of the match vids?

Mark McLeod 06-03-2006 14:41

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock
Any possibility of offering (even a really low quality) windows media version of the match vids?

I just have to crank them through Adobe Premere I suppose.
Any in particular you're most interested in?
I don't have a lot of spare time, since we're getting ready to visit you guys in Hartford on Thursday.

P.S. According to Premere it's going to take 2 hours to convert just one of the full resolution Finals videos. I'll try one of the low-res files first (~20 mins).

PPS: That's odd, I cannot seem to view wmv files. As a test I also downloaded other peoples posted wmv videos and I only get a black screen with audio.

JoeCallahan 06-03-2006 15:29

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod
Full resolution of the Finals and Semifinals have been uploaded. The files are 37-45MB and compressed somewhat.
http://team358.org/history/2006/videos/NJ_Regional/

Finally someone hosting the first finals match =p Thanks

Chrisms 06-03-2006 15:45

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by M.O.R.T.
Does anyone have video footage of match 67? That's the match were I was the MC and did the flip on the field....I really wanna see that on film...if anyone can help me get a copy of that I'd be your best friend...

Thanks in advance.

I should have it... and now that i have a match number it'll be easier to find.. let me look now... *endless FF* ooo there's the part where they tried to shove us on our ramp.. and we ended up flipping them back wards... and here's a bunch of important people talking..... *ff more* well, it's the end of the tape.. next tape! haha.

wow. match 67 is harder to find than i thought... FIRST should think about putting a giant "MATCH: #" on the screen before each match, it would make this a lot easier and quicker.


hmm... can anyone give me a guess on how much time was before match 67 and the alliance picking?

thanks.


edit:
I found the match where they're waving our flag George, is 67 before or after that?

Spikey 06-03-2006 15:48

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Thanks for posting the videos! Of one concern I saw the video of 25 pushing SPIKE(293) over! SF 1-1 My goodness I am surprised they did not get a penalty! In the video 293 and 25 are fighting each other, 25 almost tips over during the pushing fight, but 293 backs off and lets them balance, but it appears that 293 moved back so quickly that 293 tipped up and 25 drove under them. Then from the video it looks like 25 does not back off and let 293 balance, but they continue to drive forward and push 293 over! They were under 293 for a good 3 seconds why did they not back off and let 293 balance like 293 did when 25 was tipped? Not very nice in my opinion.. :mad:

Koko Ed 06-03-2006 15:58

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spikey
Thanks for posting the videos! Of one concern I saw the video of 25 pushing SPIKE(293) over! SF 1-1 My goodness I am surprised they did not get a penalty! In the video 293 and 25 are fighting each other, 25 almost tips over during the pushing fight, but 293 backs off and lets them balance, but it appears that 293 moved back so quickly that 293 tipped up and 25 drove under them. Then from the video it looks like 25 does not back off and let 293 balance, but they continue to drive forward and push 293 over! They were under 293 for a good 3 seconds why did they not back off and let 293 balance like 293 did when 25 was tipped? Not very nice in my opinion.. :mad:

Personally I think 293 blew and should have finished them off quickly. You don't let a robot like that off the hook.

Stu Bloom 06-03-2006 15:58

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisms
I should have it... and now that i have a match number it'll be easier to find.. let me look now... *endless FF* ooo there's the part where they tried to shove us on our ramp.. and we ended up flipping them back wards... and here's a bunch of important people talking..... *ff more* well, it's the end of the tape.. next tape! haha.

wow. match 67 is harder to find than i thought... FIRST should think about putting a giant "MATCH: #" on the screen before each match, it would make this a lot easier and quicker.


hmm... can anyone give me a guess on how much time was before match 67 and the alliance picking?

thanks.


edit:
I found the match where they're waving our flag George, is 67 before or after that?

Matches 61 - 84 were played on Saturday before lunch (with 55-60 leftover from Friday played prior to opening ceremonies). Hope that helps ...

Spikey 06-03-2006 16:00

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed
Personally I think 293 blew and should have finished them off quickly. You don't let a robot like that off the hook.

Excuse me???? Are you suggesting that we play dirty and push 25 over, thats not very GP at all... :ahh:

Koko Ed 06-03-2006 16:06

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spikey
Excuse me???? Are you suggesting that we play dirty and push 25 over, thats not very GP at all... :ahh:

Are you kidding me?
Have you ever noticed that the play gets more physical in the tourney? It was that way in Stack Attack. It was that way in FIRST Frenzy: Raising the Bar and it was that way last year.
You cannot be that naive to think that people are going to just back up and leave you alone especially Raider Robotics. You want to label them Graciously Unprofessional? Go ahead, it's a free country but I guess the refs didn't see it that way and their opinions the one that counts!

Chrisms 06-03-2006 16:10

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu Bloom
Matches 61 - 84 were played on Saturday before lunch (with 55-60 leftover from Friday played prior to opening ceremonies). Hope that helps ...


thank you very much, but could you tell me how far after lunch the aliance picking was? thanks!

Stu Bloom 06-03-2006 16:13

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisms
thank you very much, but could you tell me how far after lunch the aliance picking was? thanks!

I believe the alliance picking was done shortly after the last Q match, but not sure as all of us referees were grabbing a quick lunch while we had the chance, and going over the timeout and robot substitution rules (and some other stuff to watch for) before the elimination matches started.

Chrisms 06-03-2006 16:15

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu Bloom
I believe the alliance picking was done shortly after the last Q match, but not sure as all of us referees were grabbing a quick lunch while we had the chance, and going over the timeout and robot substitution rules (and some other stuff to watch for) before the elimination matches started.

ahh okay. thanks very much! i'll see if i can't find it.

George A. 06-03-2006 16:25

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Lemme think...if opening ceremonies were at nine and after that we started with match 61...I'd say look around 10-11 am, that should give you a scope hopefully

Chrisms 06-03-2006 16:28

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by M.O.R.T.
Lemme think...if opening ceremonies were at nine and after that we started with match 61...I'd say look around 10-11 am, that should give you a scope hopefully

ahhh sorry for making you think. found it.



now... to get it onto my computer without killing the sound quality:-\ last time i used my Cap-card the sound got all grainy... i'll do it later tonight. haha. im lazy like that.

George A. 06-03-2006 16:29

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
You actually got my flip on video? That's amazing. I can't wait to see it. I hope it's as funny as people say it is.

Chrisms 06-03-2006 16:48

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by M.O.R.T.
You actually got my flip on video? That's amazing. I can't wait to see it. I hope it's as funny as people say it is.

yeah, unfortunitly my dad kept the camera stationary, instead of zooming in on the action(so he got a full fie'ld view) but hey, at least i have it. i'll go ahead and hook it up now.

edit: the sound is REALLY bad. it's sooooo grainy.. i need to fix it somehow... i think i need to jsut get an S-video cable and transfer it that way... the old style analog inputs must be messing the sound up.

Spikey 06-03-2006 17:00

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed
Are you kidding me?
Have you ever noticed that the play gets more physical in the tourney? It was that way in Stack Attack. It was that way in FIRST Frenzy: Raising the Bar and it was that way last year.
You cannot be that naive to think that people are going to just back up and leave you alone especially Raider Robotics. You want to label them Graciously Unprofessional? Go ahead, it's a free country but I guess the refs didn't see it that way and their opinions the one that counts!

Excuse me sir, but you read my comment the wrong way. I said it would BE UN GP IF WE FLIPPED THEM.....

I never accused them of playing unfairly, yes they do have a history of pushing other teams over, that should not excuse pushing us over. Yes I understand the game is physical and robots will fall over, but if pushing robots over is fine then I point to last years Philly regional in the finals where a robot was flipped and the whole alliance got DQ'd.

For a forum that touts the holiness of Gracious Professionalism I am amazed at your comments. Of course its a free country, but FIRST has rules, and refs, sure they did not call the play, but that still does not make it right. I happen to know the head ref, he is a stand up guy, if he did not make the call that is fine, all I am saying is that there is a point to which pushing is fine.

By your reasoning we should have pushed 25 over, and not just once, at every chance we get, now what kind of response would that get here? People would be screaming how UN GP it was that we pushed them over, and how we played dirty.

Wayne C. 06-03-2006 17:04

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spikey
Excuse me???? Are you suggesting that we play dirty and push 25 over, thats not very GP at all... :ahh:

"I never accused them of playing unfairly, yes they do have a history of pushing other teams over, that should not excuse pushing us over."

Time to put an end to this now. If there is a problem with the performance of my team then have the decency to take it to my face and not flame them here on CD. The implications of the above statements are very clear. As for our "history", who are you to judge?

This game is not a science fair. Nobody is going to sit there and let you shoot at the goals and nobody is going to let you push them around without pushing back. Thats what the bumpers are for. Thats why you design a robot that is not easily tipped over. And you live with the design you build.

There was never any intention of our guys going out to knock over other robots. But frankly, a lot of them didn't need too much help to be tipped over. When we went over we recognized it was a part of the game. I've been watching the videos over and over and I see more robots repeatedly flying at us over and over rather than the opposite.

Time to drop the subject. Its over. Good luck with the rest of the season.

WC :cool:

Spikey 06-03-2006 17:29

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne C.
"I never accused them of playing unfairly, yes they do have a history of pushing other teams over, that should not excuse pushing us over."

Time to put an end to this now. If there is a problem with the performance of my team then have the decency to take it to my face and not flame them here on CD. The implications of the above statements are very clear. As for our "history", who are you to judge?

This game is not a science fair. Nobody is going to sit there and let you shoot at the goals and nobody is going to let you push them around without pushing back. Thats what the bumpers are for. Thats why you design a robot that is not easily tipped over. And you live with the design you build.

There was never any intention of our guys going out to knock over other robots. But frankly, a lot of them didn't need too much help to be tipped over. When we went over we recognized it was a part of the game. I've been watching the videos over and over and I see more robots repeatedly flying at us over and over rather than the opposite.

Time to drop the subject. Its over. Good luck with the rest of the season.

WC :cool:

Alright lets get a few things straight:
1. I did not attend the regional, I am reacting to video, I am at college
2. If I personally had an issue with what was at stake, yes I would spoken to someone directly, I can't do that when I am at college
3. I retract my statement about the "history of pushing" a bad reaction to a previous user comments
4. I am a 5 year veteran of FIRST, I have seen many competitions, if anyone thinks I am naive on the subject of pushing you are mistaken
5. I am not here to flame anyone, I am simply raising an issue that concerned me as a person who respects GP and competitive game play.
6. I had no intention whatsoever of labeling someone un-GP, if anyone thinks that or asserts that, they are putting false words in my mouth
7. If anyone wants to challenge my assertions or has questions and wants to see me in person I will be at the Annapolis Regional PM me

George A. 06-03-2006 17:34

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Let's just back away from our keyboards for a second and relax before someone does something that they're going to regret. Arguing on here does nothing, and won't get us anywhere.

Especially after the NJ regional thread from last year was locked because of bickering...I don't think that's a tradition that we should continue.

Let's be thankful that we actually have the opportinunity to compete in FIRST and reap its benefits to the best of our ability, instead of argue whether or not somehing is GP or not. We're all human, in the heat of competition things happen or are said that people wouldn't do under normal conditions.

Let's just forget it and look forward to the remaining weeks of competition.

sw293 06-03-2006 17:37

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
I wasn't surprised to see no penalty there and I wouldn't have called one were I the ref. While intentionally tipping another robot ought to be grounds for some sort of penalty, I think a ref ought to be most conservative when making this call. If the ref has any reason to doubt the intent of the driver's actions, the best call is no call. I've been on the wrong end of an arbitrary disqualification in a final round match at a regional, and it's not a nice place to be.

The call made was the right one for the situation, and the only consistent one with the way the head ref at Trenton had called the matches not just throughout the competition but throughout the last three years. The Trenton Regional head ref should be congratulated for yet another job well done.

I cannot and will not speculate as to the intent of team 25's drivers during the match because that would be irresponsible. Unless they--and they alone--say otherwise, I will assume that they were playing clean and that the thought of intentionally tipping our robot over never crossed their minds. I can say with confidence that our driver saw that we were tipping 25 over and that he backed off in the interest of fair play and the spirit of gracious professionalism. While I am in no place whatsoever to condemn team 25's drivers, I think it is appropriate to commend team 293's driver for his actions and I would encourage others on this forum to do so rather than criticizing him for not "finishing off" the competition.

In summary, I think the video of that round shows a whole lot more what's right with FIRST (and the Trenton Regional) than what's wrong with FIRST.

nuggetsyl 06-03-2006 18:26

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
ok guys i am team 25's drive team coach (I was on the feild) and i can tell you for a fact that 293 being knock to the ground was a suprise to us when it happened. We had no clue that they were on top of our robot when we went foward because not only were they in front our our robot when it happened another robot was between us and the drivers. What are the chances of you robot being on top of ours right after we were almost flipped. Our only goal was to get to the other side to score points.That is why we spent sooooooo much time loading up the hopper. Sorry to say but we are not going to waste time to play bumper cars with you when we can unload another 30 points and end the game.


shaun

Rich Kressly 06-03-2006 18:59

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
thread closed
cool off, have a snack
we'll try again tomorrow
_____________________

OK, it's close enough to tomorrow. Thanks to all of you who responded so positively to PM comments! Please note that the overwhelming majority of posts in this 13 page thread celebrate the wonderful qualities and machines of the NJ Regional teams. For now, posts in this thread will remain unmoderated. Let's keep it that way.

Also, intent of overly-aggressive play is nearly impossible to prove, thus not worth talking about. After viewing all of the video, I must say it was as exciting as all of the finals I've seen there in person. Passionate, hard fought, and solid strategy.

A little food for thought as we reopen the thread:
-GP is something to apply to yourself and your own team. It's never a tool to judge others.
-Having someone make a spirited and possibily controversial post is nothing new. Answering such a post with comments that obviously irritate the situation while adding no real value to the thread, send it down the tubes in a hurry.
-Think twice, post once. We exist here to recognize and inspire while changing the culture for the better. Even if you worked your butt off and didn't "win", don't get caught up in the trash-talking mentality that pervades and degrades popular culture.
-Have fun and celebrate the special thing we have here called FIRST.
:)

Bluesky55J 07-03-2006 13:41

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisms
I should have it... and now that i have a match number it'll be easier to find.. let me look now... *endless FF* ooo there's the part where they tried to shove us on our ramp.. and we ended up flipping them back wards... and here's a bunch of important people talking..... *ff more* well, it's the end of the tape.. next tape! haha.

wow. match 67 is harder to find than i thought... FIRST should think about putting a giant "MATCH: #" on the screen before each match, it would make this a lot easier and quicker.


hmm... can anyone give me a guess on how much time was before match 67 and the alliance picking?

thanks.


edit:
I found the match where they're waving our flag George, is 67 before or after that?

On the real time scoring screen there is a match number, thats the best i can say.

Rich Wong 07-03-2006 14:06

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
It was a fantastic final at NJ Regional!

Here is my City slicker observations:
1. Even thought the 2006 game appeared simple, it is quite challenging for the strategists.

2. Many good robot moves were quickly counter by other robot.

3. The use of poofballs as the field element was ingenious (by design or by accident). It made for some really creativity robot designs. I was really inspired by the unique approaches to solving the spongy and sticky problem introduced by the poofball.
My 10-year old was fascinated by some of the "very cool" ball storage and delivery systems.

4. The game was really exciting to watch during the final matches. Strategy was extremely important.

5. Some teams didn’t know some of the rule or was not paying attention. HP were trying to score when it was not their turn. Alliances forgetting about the backbot. Autonomous can be offensive and defensive.

6. Painfully, teams realized the importance of building accurate field elements. Some teams found that the ramp was steeper than the school-build model.

7. Several robot shooters at this regional is amazingly accurate. I can’t wait to see what other regional teams have. It’s going to be a great Championship this year- a real show down at the OK Corral. ;)

mtaman02 07-03-2006 14:24

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Out of the 6 years of me being in FIRST and a volunteer for 3 years for FIRST this was the best regional I ever attended, The Music was perfect, A wide variety of both Rock, Rap, Hip Hop, Dance, Techno, and many other genres were played throughout the competition days. The Refs, Judges and an assorted amount of FIRST Volunteers made the competition Fun, Fair, and Safe.

And to the main head Ref that made the fairest of calls Mr. Sky (or at least thats what his name tag says) He made this competition Fun and Fair, I dont think that many Penalties were called except when needed mainly for teams being "off sides", As for as Robot Interaction is concerned Anything that occured on the field was kept in fair play.

The only problem with this regional was the scoring system, it was extremely buggy, Does anyone test these programs before sending them to FIRST or before FIRST sends it out to head to the regionals, I mean come on I never seen so many computers freeze at one time while Real Time Scoring is displayed or when the match is getting ready to start. Thats why the regional ended up running close to an 1hr to 1 1/2 hrs late. Field Resetters had that field cleaned up within 2 minutes after the match ended and yet to get the scores displayed took forever. On top of that when the information was uploaded to the FIRST servers like currently right now the only matches displayed were the ones from thursday and the rankings are sorted by team # instead of W-L-T and averages. Wait of got it =) how about the finals matches when the score displayed before penalties e.g. red gets 35 and blue gets 25 after the penalties which there was none the final score would read red 35 blue 0. or better yet when the match started the arena controllers never got the signal to enable all the robots for autonomous mode - or - the second period or the center goals would not activate for random periods. We had quite a number of match do overs b/c of this small bug ;-)

well anyway i know that was the 1st set of regionals of the season so you can't be too mad but if teams are giving 6 weeks to build and test the robot completely i think FIRST should also take some of that time and have the software tested completely as well before sending it to the regionals b/c us volunteers should not have to pull our hair out while trying to enjoy ourselves. =)

BGiraud 07-03-2006 16:41

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Great Regional!!! Congrats to all.

I hope someone can help me. My team (637) won the Delphi "Driving Tomorrows Technology" award. I was on the practice field trying to help tune up our autonomous, so I missed it all. I am so embarassed I missed it as well as shocked and happy we won it. Can someone please post video (with good audio) of Fridays awards or even just that segment. Or maybe inform me of an alternate source to obtain the video. I would really like to know what they liked about our design.

Last year was my first year and for me it was just about helping the kids build a robot. Our other mentor convinced us to leave before the finals were over and we missed the final awards. This year I made a point of staying and watching it all. Seeing the matches and hearing the judges testimonials of how teams are impacting their schools and communities was truely inspiring. The combination of that experience as well as our induvidual success with the Delphi award has set our team on a new path of showing our school what Montville FIRST Robotics can ultimately do for our students and our community. With any luck, we will realize those dreams in time.

Too bad NJ is our only regional. We finally got the bugs worked out by the end of qualifying. We qualified so poorly, I'm not entirely suprised we were passed over for the finals. Maybe next year.

Congrats 25....thanks for the inspiration

Heretic121 07-03-2006 16:55

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With the scoring system it was the first time they tested the ELIMINATION rounds... from what i know of... and it happened at every regional where ONLY the BLUE side had a score of 0 for the entire finals... while red was ok... its a simple programing error *i would assume* and SHOULD be fixed by week 2 regionals... hopefully... =P

Liz C 07-03-2006 17:52

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
The NJ regional was an awesome time. While we hit a few roadblocks with our robot, we did sort things out (just in time to ship to Philly :) ) and we still had a lot of fun. Aside from being a little chilly, I was impressed with the venue. I was in the pits on most of the day on Thurs. and Fri. and when I watched a few of the final matches on Sat. I was also surprised to see just how spirited the crowd was - it was great!

Thanks to all of the volunteers! Congrats to all of the teams!

sw293 07-03-2006 18:05

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
There is one last point that should be added to this discussion in the context of rules and officiating, if only to inform future discussion (be it civil or uncivil) on disqualification calls and non-calls. This thread might not be the right one for this, but I'll post it anyway because it needs to be pointed out. FIRST has either limited or clarified the conditions for disqualification, depending on your perspective.

FIRST did not include in this year's game rules the following sentence from last year's <G25> (of which I was a most vocal critic):
Quote:

"If the tipping, entanglement, or damage occurs where it is not a part of normal game play, at the referee’s discretion, a 10-point penalty will be assessed, and the offending team/ROBOT may be disqualified from that match."
This year <G22> lists several specific guidelines and concludes:
Quote:

"In all cases involving robot-to-robot contact, the Head Referee may assess a 5-point penalty and the robot may be disqualified, subject to these guidelines."
FIRST wants to avoid the type of subjective judgment calls by referees that affected the results of regionals last year, which is why they changed <G25> of 2005 to the much more narrowly-tailored <G22> of 2006. A disqualification here or in any similar situation would have been an indefensible call.

felipe.tonello 07-03-2006 21:28

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Congrats to all!!!
The NJ regional was very nice!! I had a wonderful time there..
The americans are very nice to us(brazilian).. thank you all..

On Saturday I believe was the best day.. Me and my friend went to the dance place(I don't know how to say it =P) and we dance and have a lot of fun there.. I met a lot of people there.. the best was the girls heheh very pretty all.. I hope to meet u guys there next year!!

my english isn't very well eeheh but I am trying..

Congrats to all teams!!!! good job!!!

Bye..

JoeCallahan 07-03-2006 21:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by felipe.tonello
the best was the girls heheh very pretty all..

Haha, glad to see he's on our level.

Chrisms 08-03-2006 18:23

Re: 2006 NJ Regional
 
Ladies and Gentleman, boys and girls. Presenting Ackley flip 2006:

http://www.bolt.com/Chrisms/video/35...ms_video_PAGE1

(go easy on the clicking... i dont know how much bandwidth they give me)


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