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Maybe its 2v2 where the other "robot" is actually a moving field element like a shovel?

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Actually I was thinking it may be a free for all, style game. Or a 1 team idea. So no alliances. That would be sort of awkward though.

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2vs2 with the re-apperance of the placebo?

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The robots arent obsessed the shovels show
It says a game peice

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has anyone connected previos hints to any of this

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Well, these are my 2 top ideas so far...

1. One of the definitions of "shovel" is "The amount that a shovel can hold; a shovelful: One shovel of dirt" ... so could the game piece have to be filled?

2. "a game piece obsessed with a shovel's show and seeing Montana's green heights" ... the "and" can make the heights relate to the game piece.. so the game piece might have to be up high to score points... kind of like in 1999 with raising the floppies to a certain height

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I somehow doubt that we'll see a placebo as a full-on FRC robot in its own right, as one of the oft-mentioned constraints is that a team should be able to replicate the field with stuff from Home Depot. And you just can't get an IFI RC at Lowe's.

The fact that a shovel show is being held at the High Wire Gallery (link credit: Not2B) makes me wonder about hanging making a return, but perhaps in the form of having to traverse something while hanging. (Teams like 237 and 330, who perfected the art of the monkeybot in 2004, might have the edge here.)

On the other hand, I think I'm going to just go back to finishing off the Pre-Season FF draft, run a couple more caption contests, and relax before the madness.

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Maybie "5 'bots" means exactly what it sounds like which is that there will be 5 robots on the field. This could mean a number of different things:
5v0 - This would be cool
ueven teams - could be interesting
2v2+1 - The 5th team either switches sides or somehow influences the game in a special way. I think this is highly unlikely

Well when pasta is uncooked, it is straight. Remmeber the batons (straight things)? Shovel: thing that picks up logs(straight things)? The game peice will be some sort of log-like thing.

Montana + heights - montana has mountians. I don't think the field will be flat this year

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i think there will be possibly a third alliance introduced this year as well as a hill or mound.

There was the mention of pasta. As well as green.

Pasta is one of Italy's biggest foods, green is on the Italian flag. The Italian flag it broken up into 3 sections, green, white, and red 2 of which are associated with the colors of first if you look to the first logo.

Italy also has allot of mountains which relates to the green heights



in addition i found this from
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/montana
and significant lumber and mineral extraction (gold, coal, silver, talc, and vermiculite) industries.

Vegetation of the state includes ponderosa pine, lodgepole pine, larch, fir, spruce, aspen, birch, redcedar, ash, alder, rocky mountain maple and cottonwood trees. Forests cover one-fourth of the state. Flowers native to Montana include asters, bitterroots, daisies, lupins, poppies, primroses, columbine, lilies, orchids and dryads. Several species of sagebrush and cactus and many species of grasses are common plants in some regions. Many species of mushrooms and lichens are also found in the state.


i was thinking since we had 2 teams of 3 last year
it would be
3 teams of 2 this year

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Having gone through two hints in my FIRST career, I'm willing to bet that you may be onto something here. The derivative thing seems to be the key. (After all, was Led Zeppelin or John Neun on the field?)

Perhaps we'll have to maneuver our robot to retrieve things from a somewhat awkward situation? (Imagine if you had to get tetras out from the center goal from this year. Scary notion, especially if they were to raise the goal a bit.)

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i was thinking that

five 'bots tangling with pasta
mebbe 5 robots get to hold batons or get the option to get batons (i really have no idea lol)

a game piece obsessed with a shovel's show
means that u have to stack batons as high as u can

and seeing Montana's green heights
n mebbe after u stacked the batons as high as u can, u need to use ur camera (like last yr for the vision tetra) to reach some goal. dave said last yr at kick off we'll use camera's more, so mebbe this yr the camera obstacle will be a bigger part of the game

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Also the 2006 Winter Olympics is in Italy, so maybe an Olypmic theme

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Pasta does not have to be spaghetti.

I also don't think that the pool noddle foam toys would work because they are long and it would be hard to put them somewhere (as every game has used as the scoring method)
A list of pasta types with pictures can be found here :Hormel Foods

-shovel's show could imply that the piece needs to be lifted off the ground

-seeing...heights could imply that it needs to be put up high to be scored

-considering the lack of punctuation, the pasta might not be the game piece.

-If you move the apostrophe over so that it is on the "five" and not the "bots", then it is simply saying five' or five feet/foot bots - perhaps a reference to the size limit.

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One of Webster's definitions of show is "to point out". I think there will be a devece on the field to "show" the shovel what to pick up. maybee a trafic light type object that chooses a color at random and you have to get that color object at that particular time.

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I think someone might have been on to it in the other post when they mentioned Joe Montana.

the clue mentions "Seeing Montana's Green Heights " well Joe Montana played at Notre Dame and played in a green jersey Number 3. Instead of saying we are seeing an object maybe seeing would be more of an adjective describing Montana and in his green jersey some heights he accomplished. He did win 4 superbowls, was inducted into the hall of fame recently. ( 2000 I believe? )

I havn't found any of his great achievments while he was at notre dame but maybe his actual physical height has something to do with it.

Maybe it means that there will be 3 green targets at some height on the field in which we have to place the pasta.

Still trying to figure out what they are telling us :-) Its a different point of view .. discuss :-)