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tfedullo 24-12-2005 13:43

Re: 2006 Official Game Hint Discussion
 
"and seeing Montana's green heights"
i don't think that, that refers to the CMU cam because it is just to obvious and its not like first to have a game hint where you can tell what it means within seconds of looking at it
that being said this is what i think it may mean:
a third alliance being introduced
why?
during the off season we played with our auton programs, and every once and a while if you held down the program button in a weird way the robot controller would begin to flash in a very strange pattern and the robot leds would flash red, blue, then to our great surprise green.
could this mean a new green alliance?
Edit:
i no longer think so since green is not a first color, however i still think it is to obvious for the CMU cam
Edit 2:
green was a color used by first, and the green led is actually a type of code fault error that the controller sends out to alert the field.
(thank you Ted Boucher)

Jonathan Norris 24-12-2005 13:44

Re: 2006 Official Game Hint Discussion
 
Did anyone else find it odd that they released the hint so early, even BEFORE Christmas. This seems odd to me, I would have thought that FIRST would have given the hit to us at least after the Christmas holiday :)

evolution 24-12-2005 13:44

Re: 2006 Official Game Hint Discussion
 
Perhaps we'd see the two alliances with different objectives. The alliance with more teams playing an offensive role and the alliance with fewer teams playing a defensive role?

Safarley2901 24-12-2005 13:56

Re: 2006 Official Game Hint Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by evolution
Perhaps we'd see the two alliances with different objectives. The alliance with more teams playing an offensive role and the alliance with fewer teams playing a defensive role?

That might be an interesting angle. Though I highly doubt it. Each Team's robot would be geared to offensive or defensive. Even if not meant to. And since the alliance colors are choosed randomly, (Meaning, without team having interference), One team could be geared totally torward offensive, but get defensive every match.

Michelle Celio 24-12-2005 14:08

Re: 2006 Official Game Hint Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tfedullo
"and seeing Montana's green heights"
i don't think that, that refers to the CMU cam because it is just to obvious and its not like first to have a game hint where you can tell what it means within seconds of looking at it
that being said this is what i think it may mean:
a third alliance being introduced
why?
during the off season we played with our auton programs, and every once and a while if you held down the program button in a weird way the robot controller would begin to flash in a very strange pattern and the robot leds would flash red, blue, then to our great surprise green.
could this mean a new green alliance?

A new alliance would be pretty insane, but i have no experince with any type of alliance becuase ive never been a compotetion but three would be crazy just from what i've heard from my team mates

[edit]
Ok so maybe if there is another alliance it wont be green, maybe the mentioned green to throw you to the camera but indeed a new allience but green makes no sence, so maybe its just there to show the alliance relation but maybe it'll be white to corrospond with the logo
[/edit]

Nuttyman54 24-12-2005 14:26

Re: 2006 Official Game Hint Discussion
 
ok here's a possiblity. Borrowing from other posts...what if it was a 1v1v1v1v1 game BUT tasks could not be completed without the help of another robot (on another "alliance"), such as one robot must be on a presure pad to lower something (from montana's green heights), but only other robot can complete the task with the lowered object...just an idea

killerofkiller 24-12-2005 14:28

Re: 2006 Official Game Hint Discussion
 
i dont think they will do anything less or more than 3v3.. we have somany new teams that a 2v2 would be a killer at nationals. also, they can't make the field any bigger because of arena sizes. i know that t UCF in 05 it was pretty tight moving the robot arround and even at the palmetto regional it was as big as it could get.

Dave Lavery's latest away message: "The CLUE has been released! Why are you looking here?!!?!!"

Tom Bottiglieri 24-12-2005 14:28

Re: 2006 Official Game Hint Discussion
 
I still think this years game pieces will be the legs of last year's tetras.

This fits into the whole pasta/pick up sticks theory.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...&postcount=119

Michelle Celio 24-12-2005 14:32

Re: 2006 Official Game Hint Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri
I still think this years game pieces will be the legs of last year's tetras.

This fits into the whole pasta/pick up sticks theory.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...&postcount=119

i had acutally mentioned something like that earlier today to some people about using a PVC piece as the "pasta" i was thinking more or a less a piece with a 1'' dimetier and maybe 4-5' long...

Nuttyman54 24-12-2005 14:47

Re: 2006 Official Game Hint Discussion
 
ok, more possible connections with previous ideas:

2v3 with a lopsided field to give the 2 team alliance an advantage (remember, montana's flat on one end and hilly at the other)

Safarley2901 24-12-2005 14:49

Re: 2006 Official Game Hint Discussion
 
I think someone on my team may have already posted this; What if we had to build something with the "Pasta"?. In a most basic sense, like lincoln logs. or K'nex. Just a thought, My design team is having a horrid time trying to figure out how to be able to precisely handle the Baton game pieces, if that is what they are.

Ebolagirl 24-12-2005 14:49

Re: 2006 Official Game Hint Discussion
 
Ok, so I've read everyones' posts up til this point and I'm still totally baffled. It's also kind of funny to me because analyzing this game hint is like analyzing poetry in English. So I guess those English skills are coming in handy, eh?

I'll add my two cents worth.
"five 'bots tangling with pasta" indicates that there will be five robots on the field. It’ll be 1v1v1v1v1. There won’t be official alliances, but there will be benefits for working together (similar to how BEST does it). There will be some game element that requires robot cooperation and extra points will be award based on completion of that element. Five robots also makes me think that the field will be pentagonal to make everything as balanced as possible. “tangling with pasta” indicates some sort of chaotic game because of the definitions of “tangle”. The shape (and composition?) mimics that of pasta.

I have no idea what the second line could possibly mean.

"and seeing Montana's green heights" is an obvious allusion to the camera. What else in FIRST "sees" besides the humans and the camera? Montana is referring to mountains, because all Montana is know for is its mountains and National Parks. "Heights" indicates an incline or something that the robots have to interact with because hills and mountains are often referred to as "heights".

I have no idea what they're going to do to us, but now I'm totally psyched and I can't wait till kickoff!!

Nuttyman54 24-12-2005 14:52

Re: 2006 Official Game Hint Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebolagirl
Montana is refering to mountains, because all Montana is know for is its mountains, National Parks, and Mt. St. Helens.

sorry to do this, but Mt. St Helens is in Washington...

Ian Curtis 24-12-2005 14:54

Re: 2006 Official Game Hint Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beth Sweet
You know, this post brings to mind another post Dave made last January....

How would FIRST determine "strong robots" from "weaker robots"? Even with that however, I'm a fan of 2v2v3! Why? It'll make for the best defensive battles up here in the Northeast! It also has the potential to make things very exciting for TV viewing.

(Which is continually brought up in the "Game Design" forum.)

Nuttyman54 24-12-2005 15:11

Re: 2006 Official Game Hint Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkorobotics


Don't Panic, I made this on an animation software called Bryce 5. This is my vision or estimate of what the game will be. Feel free to mess around with the rules.

it may be just me...but where exactly is this animation?


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