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What is up with these CLOWNFISH

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why does the bigger fish have a huge white dot on it? is that an eye or can it be a clue? there are so many things but maybe everyone is being to detailed im going to look more into it and figure this out

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Its a shiny coin...for sure it is. lol :yikes:

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im sure it is. I tried inverting the colors but nothing seems to work. i guess ill just have to rip it apart and figure it out

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I see stairs...
(look at picture...)

I also think that the blue line looks like a starting position... you can see a 90 degree bend near the top..

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After Looking at the picture for a little bit I will settle on these small details

The Banana is a closed captioning ending e.g. havabanana - I don't think the banana has anything to do with the game itself.

The Plowabot over there looks depressed and maybe even disabled - there could be certain parts of the game in which one or more robots can be disabled for a certain amount of time and it could happen anytime throughout the match.

thats all i got in addition to whatever I said back in May

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If you look at the one odd clown fish. It looks as if the eyes were taken out. Maybe that means that there wont be any eyes in other words no more cameras. :confused:

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What about no eyes for the drivers... maybe they wont be able to see the field
Just putting it out there...

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In that case, you would have to use the cameras, and build a display into your OI.

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bannana rymes with louisiana,
louisiana was effected by hurricane katrina,
which created the water,
the fish swam through the water to eat,
the robot was feeding them!

WE NEED TO BUILD A FISH FEEDING BOT! :eek:

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Here's how I think the game "hints" are created.
Dave calls a meeting and says to the FIRST officials: "ok, here's the game this year, and here's a random sentence. Now your job is to find a way to connect them in a way those FIRST kids will buy" :p

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ya I think that the banana has to do with a banana boat and the shadow is actually a boat on top of the water and we have to build a boat that will do something on the water

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Since last years game hint was incredibly obfuscated, i'm going to take a stab at it.

fish picture - one fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish
one fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish - writen by doctor seuss
doctor seuss - born in springfield mass.
springfield mass - Kurt russels birth place
kurt russel - in the film 'escape from new york'
'escape from new york' - had a sequel called 'escape from la'
'escape from la' - la has an ocean
la has an ocean - as does florida
florida - has orange trees

thus robots must be able to pick oranges from 8 foot tall trees, and place them in baskets.

am i close?

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Exactly.

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Exactly? or Precisely?

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I have one problem with the water from a logistical standpoint: if there was more than an inch or two of water, first of all, the sheer number of galons of water required would be prohibitive, second, this would require a perfectly water tight arena, again, logisticaly, a total nightmare... and third, the strength of materials required to pen in water more than a foot or so deep would again, be a difficult hurdle to overcome.

-monty

---Think Logically Folks---

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I can just imagine the field clean-up crew with a fleet of mops

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Now THAT is a robot right there. We could end a lot of starvation problems by way of robot haha

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Well, well, well. Another under water hint. Didn't we get this last year, and it turned out to be nothing more than a hint that our speed controllers would be water proof. Maybe I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be slightly dangerous to have electricity powered robots on the field (unless of course, FIRST will be providing us with shells), not to mention the wet floor hazards following each match. I would love an underwater game, but I seriously doubt FIRST would do it, then again, I've been proven wrong millions of time before (actually make that everytime, millions is an understatment. ;)

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That's the fish like the one in Nemo...

MORE LIGHTS!

and bananas hang from trees...
are we possibly hanging again?

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Wow, that logic's just crazy enough to possibly be correct! :ahh: :p

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How long did it take for you to come up with that?!

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Having way too much time and ftp space, our team has added a page to our website on the 2007 game and the theories we have. The reason I put this link here is because most of the theories stem from this picture.

http://team291.org/Team291/2007_Game.htm

The whole website thing isn't 100% done yet so there may be a few typos.

Also, I would have liked to post this entire thing onto ChiefDelphi just to keep all theories in one place, but it was just too long and we wanted to have lots of pictures with it.

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i love the one fish two fish red fish blue fish idea so i decided to go check it out.
http://www.audible.com/adbl/site/pro...BK_LILI_000375

Who am I?
My name is Ned.
I do not like
my little bed.

This is no good.
This is not right.
My feet stick out
of bed all night.

so i believe the bed is just a platform that doesn't have a ramp so robots will have to learn how to climb into bed and the robot in the picture is trying to be like the fish so i said hmm..... banana fish.... maybe but any way i came up with this page http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...lr%3D%26sa%3DG which is a crib bedding set and the crib is just a bed (platform) that is smaller than the platform from last year so some of the robot may hang of the edge like ned's feet.

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I like how this thread has 9 pages of replies while this thread has only 1 page. :)

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omgosh... sounds awesome... ur a genius:P lol .. maybe the the fish w/o eyes? would have to deal w/ traction.... like dave said... "Just to make sure that I don't slip up and give away too much."

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Someone touched on the earlier by saying there might be a lack of visibility for the drivers. What if the lack of clarity in Dave's picture is just showing how drivers will see this year's game? Perhaps the game will require precision but the drivers will be looking through some type of material that will make their view of this precise activity very unclear.

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Actually, I'm surprised that has never been done before. Maybe we'll need to install a camera on our robots, and the drivers stations will have displays placed at them. Then we'll need to drive our bots like the mini subs that pilot under water.

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Here's another hint.....
http://team195.com/members/files/Fun...-2006Robot.pdf

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Aqua Bomb!

http://www.poof-slinky.com/catalog/c...2&pro did=77&

heh.

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The the problem with the camera idea is the cost of doing so - real-time video streams off of four robots running on a wireless network to displays in front of the drivers would cost a lot and increases the risk of having a technical problem cause the driver to lose control during a match. Also, although some level of distortion in front of the driver might not cause too much trouble, too much distortion and you have a safety issue where the driver can't see to drive.

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That's where the fun comes from :D

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If this was posted in 2005 how is it the clue for the 2007 game?

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wow ed you were right for once:D

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^--- That was at the end of 2005, saying 2006 was short notice.. now, the scenery has changed! If I see water at kickoff, then I am going to freak!

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Even a broken clcok is right twice a day.
I heard that in a song.

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Unless its a digital clock that reads military time;)

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Then it's right once a day- :D.

Which April? '05 or '06? I haven't checked, but based on the discussion, I'm assuming we never did. But did we ever find out?

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My boss just came up with something:

What if the drivers are looking through distorted plexiglass for all or part of the match.

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Hey i couldnt help but notice that there is a fourth fish hidden in the robot, and there is also a part of the color spectrum hidden in the robot havnt decided what this means yet but i figured i'd throw it out there.

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This game is going to involve fishing for something like a crane game, my proof?
1. That fish is an angler fish which can mean you can be "angling" for something
2 There are fish that are there which might imply that we must be "fishing" for something
3 The water is just to throw you off, there is no way they can have a water game, try setting up a water field, and not have any leaks, imagine if they have water and it does leak? Water is too complicated
4 The banana might just be for color, maybe what we are picking up is yellow, the fish are all also white and yellow,
mabe this confusion with the 2005 game might be another hint? referring to the tetra or triangle, mabe we are picking up yellow balls from a triangle hopper like this past vex game
something else, fish are slippery, water can be slippery, bananas are slippery

I wanna hear what everyone thinks of this, I think these ideas aren't that far-fetched

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Not a bad idea. Makes sense. Maybe, since we've used triangles (tetras) 2 years ago (which, by the way, would be perfect for this game) and circles (poof balls) last year, maybe we'll be using squares this year (boxes)? However, the devil's advocate in me is saying that the game seems too similar to two years ago, but pickup systems could be different with boxes and not tetras. Just playing devil's advocate...

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I am leaning toward agreeing that the water is to throw us off. It would be extremely difficult to have a water based game without changing venues. There is an event though that is water based! www.h2orobots.org Check it out! We want as many FIRST teams as possible to participate. I do think that the game clue is meant to through us off. The distorted view for the drivers does seema like the most plausable one to expect. I guess we will have to just wait and see!

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This may have been said somewhere in one of our threads regarding this image and all the many clues it holds for us. Regarding the distortion of the image that we see - in some of the threads, some have suggested that the drivers will be looking through distorted glass or maybe their field of vision will be somehow distorted.

Being the bean counter that I am, I don't see how the GDC would want to do that. FRC is expensive. The robot is expensive. And, the robot has been designed carefully with strategy involved by engineers, teachers, and students. No one would want to see it damaged because of vision being distorted or limited. Also, I would think the frustration levels of the drive teams and coaches would significantly increase if their ability to see the field and robots clearly was compromised.

That's what I have been thinking.

That said, something is distorted. We could be looking through something in the image.
Maybe a lens?

I'm done, I promise.
Jane

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There will be a large, light-distorting object in the middle of the field.

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I'm too lazy to pull out a thick book form one, so from dictionary.com:

maybe we've been going at this from the wrong angle...

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I hope Dave realizes that we all expect a FULL explanation of this clue's relavence to the '07 game after kickoff (if it's not obvious, of course) ;)


EDIT: What happened to the spell check? :confused:

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Uhhhmmm, what if I don't understand the relevance?

-dave



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We'll settle for a full and accurate explanation from any of the folks on stage.

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I'll settle for any entertaining nonsense that Dave can think up on the spot.

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Your talk is cheep.

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Some how I don't find that hard to believe.

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well,I', wondering if maybe this competition will involve making a bouyant robot. Eh, seems farfetched.

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yes it does seem a little bit farfetched and there is no practicle way for them to test unless the robots were also water proof.

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A water game would be feasable if they supplied a boat hull in the starter kit. A good ol' sea shanty anyone?

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So we'll go from the Kitbot to the Kitboat?

(thank you, thank you, I'm here all week)

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Kits, COTS, hey, whatever floats your 'bots.:rolleyes:

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OR possibley a SUB hull.

Or you guys simpley learn about silicone caulk. i mean this stuff is the greatest when it comes ot a WATER TIGHT SEAL.

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What if the banana was really a pipe fish?

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What if the banana were really a pipe fish?

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<OFF TOPIC> But I was just thinking, how many bananas does Dave eat in a day?

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that is actually not a bad idea that might just be it because lets face it if he actually uses water not many people will survive a regional let alone nationals