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Quain 03-05-2002 12:24

Best Cart
 
Who does everyone think has the best cart? I liked the team with the little go-cart lookin cart... it pulled the robot.. tho.. it didn't look like the driver had any room to move. It was a really cool idea tho.. just.. it would be bad if there were like 20 teams with those next year... they'd have to be insured.. *grin*... the worst cart tho has to be the team that was @ Drexel with the car alarm on it... and it had spinnin blue/red lights... it DEFINITELY gave me a headache and it was SO annoying.. good idea... bad volume control...

Jgreenwd1 03-05-2002 14:02

what do you thinck about our cart
 
heres a photo of or robot on the cart. you can tell we used of the cotrols from last years robot to drive it.

Jeff Waegelin 03-05-2002 15:14

I like Truck Town's cart. It's really cool. Watch for our cart next year, though. It'll blow you all away :D

DanL 03-05-2002 16:42

Most Ghetto Cart
 
Yeah, team 810 can't be considered for this thread. However, if you're talking about the most ghetto cart, ours beats you all.

Imagine this: 4 casters and a 2' x 5' piece of wood.

Yes, thats all.

On saturday (maybe friday?) we got a piece of string stuck in one of the casters. It prevented the wheel from turning, but we didn't even notice. Needless to say, when I finally pointed out that one of the casters wasn't spinning, when we examined it, about 1/5 of the wheel melted off from the friction. Now our 'dolly' (if it could even be called that) bounced when we moved it.

So, in conclusion:
Team 810 - Most Ghetto Dolly... Ever.

Plan for pre-season warmup excercise next year: buy a car stereo system, find two chipuwas, and build a crankin' tank-steerin' dolly.

Elgin Clock 03-05-2002 16:46

Thanks to innovations in the past couple years in speaker and subwoofer designs I have come up with a new baffle board design, F.I.R.S.T. related of course! I'll post a pic of it soon maybe! Or maybe I'll keep it secret till next year!

Anyways, I liked the cart with the pneumatic wheel system and the subs and the ground effect lighting. It makes me wonder how they got it down there??? Did they ship it in a seperate crate???

Quain 03-05-2002 19:42

I wish i had that kinda cash.. maybe next year we'll have the "Pimp Cart".. it'll be intresting

SlaveOfChernobl 03-05-2002 21:28

our cart is THE BEST

we have a dolly, and we have used it throughout our entire history, or at least for the time i have been involved. its been with us through every season, and its even been a national champion cart in 2000.

some teams build their carts better than their bots, that is cool and all but its not the cart that counts. our simple dolly is small, fits into any car/trunk is light, and is easy to carry by only one person. it is very versatile and can go ANYWHERE. and it can and has been used for dolly races in our gym. you cant race in just any cart. and did i mention that its CHEAP. thats right. its very very cheap. we dont invest thousands into our cart. we use dolly and dolly is the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

D.J. Fluck 03-05-2002 23:16

Hands down, my vote goes to 41

These guys had the sweetest cart ever

They had 2 huge subs on the back with a Car CD player attached

also it had hydros on it to make it into a "pimp mobile" as one kid said from that team I wish i had a pic

Andrew Rudolph 04-05-2002 00:05

Definelty the ghetto cart goes to the cart we used on 168 two years ago. A piece of plywood and 4 castors, and an extension cord for a handle. That thing ROCKED. This year we made a cheap cart look cool. We took one of thoes rubbermaid carts that we have at the school and covered it with leftover diamond plate it looked awsome!! It only took about an hour to put together with some self tapping screws. A few years ago 212went all out on a cart and it was so big that we just used it for a table. It was so sweet but they used castors that werent rated for the weight and it was impossible to push. It weight a few hundred pounds!



Andrew

Front of the cart

Check out the nice "body kit" we added

Quain 04-05-2002 00:08

I saw this cart goin out to the field that was a tool chest.. it took up the whole walkway and the dood couldn't even see.. it was HORRIBLE... can you say.. over doing it..?

Stephanie 04-05-2002 15:21

just watch us! team 668 is going to be working this summer on THE BEST cart. we're gonna blow you all away. i would tell you about it, but that would ruin the surprise ;)

patrickrd 04-05-2002 15:32

Team 638 was right next to us at nats and they had an amazing cart. Human driven like a car.

- Patrick

sidewinder 04-05-2002 16:36

Props to 68
 
Nothing can compare to Truck town hauling in its robot. If your haven;t seen it, its actually a truck. Its not that impressive indoors, but we saw it this year at the GM icecream social and it just flew down the isle, with a few people running behind to keep u

Jim Giacchi 04-05-2002 17:07

"Pimp Mobile"
 
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I would first like to say that yes we are quite mad, for those of you who did not see it here is a picture of our cart. Hopefully when we get it back i can get a movie of it.
We got the cart down there in a separate crate that we managed to con..vince a parent who owned a shipping company to pay for the shipping down there.

Believe it or not the whole think started as a joke after we got tired of pulling around our old particle board cart with an electric cord at columbia(see your not the only one). Someone on a team said, "Hey let's build a better cart." Then another kid jumped in with "Hey as long as were doing that why not put a system on it." Then as long as we were doing all of that another kid though it'd be cool to put it on hydraulics. We expected our sponsors to laugh at us and tell us no that they wouldn't pay for it, but they didn't. We got all the 80/20 we needed from the scrap piles they had in their shop. They ordered us the pistons we needed and the rest of the parts we scrounged up from around the shop.

We met afterschool for three weeks(I told you we were mad) and built the sucker and let me tell you the look on the faces of the people that saw it hop was more than worth the effort.

Complete Stats:
2 10' 600 Watt Subs
2 5 x 9 door speakers
1 800 Watt Amplifier (Hence The Tagline)
1 Alpine CD, Am-Fm Radio Headunit
4 Bimba Flat-II 4' Stroke 2' Bore Cylinder
3 Thomas Compressors (THe ones in the kit)
1 2 galloon air tank(The one from 2000)
1 4 Piece Gold Series Undercarriage neon kit (Includes 2 54' Tubes and 2 30')Color-Blue
2 Interstate Truck Batteries

Final Weight - 480lbs

P.S. - You can tell I'm only a tiny-little bit proud of it.:D

Digo 04-05-2002 17:55

best and worst
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Quain
...I liked the team with the little go-cart lookin cart... it pulled the robot.. tho.. it didn't look like the driver had any room to move. It was a really cool idea tho.. just.. it would be bad if there were like 20 teams with those next year... they'd have to be insured.. *grin*... the worst cart tho has to be the team that was @ Drexel with the car alarm on it... and it had spinnin blue/red lights... it DEFINITELY gave me a headache and it was SO annoying.. good idea... bad volume control...
I couldn't agree more with both choices (the best and the worst). I'm not sure if the team you say that was at Drexel is the same one I saw at nationals, all I know is that there was a team (don't know the number) with a cart with a REALLY loud siren, and the kid turned it on for one second behind me. I don't know the english word for susto, but I can say it was a very bad experience.

DanL 04-05-2002 18:45

Re: "Pimp Mobile"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Jim Giacchi
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Complete Stats:
2 10' 600 Watt Subs
2 5 x 9 door speakers
1 800 Watt Amplifier (Hence The Tagline)
1 Alpine CD, Am-Fm Radio Headunit
Dear lord, how much did that system cost you?

Alex Forest 04-05-2002 19:10

props definitely go to 41....that was SOOO cool!!! hehe we got the best cart award from MOE at Philly......HAHAHAHAHHAHA funny we were sitting here cursing the stupid thingg....it tipped 3 times on the field becuz it is offbalance without the robot....it broke our poor little red light into a million pieces when it landed on it....lol yes, i think we get the most dangerous cart...oh yeah, and it broke the floor at nats....we left a lovely crack all the way from our pit to the door....oops prob shouldnt have said that...:D

Jim Giacchi 05-05-2002 14:20

Re: Re: "Pimp Mobile"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SuperDanman


Dear lord, how much did that system cost you?

We borrowed the subs and the door speakers. The amp was lying around unused and we purchased the headunit. So the only thing we had to buy was the headunit. Which we would not have had to buy if someone had not blown out the one we got for free. (I swear i didn't know the battery was connected backwards)

DanL 05-05-2002 18:24

Oh, so if the whole system is borrowed, does that mean you guys had to give it back when you got the crate back?

Gui Cavalcanti 05-05-2002 19:06

Most ghetto dolly ever
 
I'm sorry, but 422 has to take the award for most ghetto dolly ever. There are no doubts. First of all, it isn't even a solid piece of wood. It's quite literally what two guys on our team found when they first walked into the robotics room. There are two bars of 1x1 plywood about 2 or 3 feet long roughly parallel to each other and 1 or 2 feet apart, and at each end there are two pieces of barstock aluminum connecting them. Mounted underneath the barstock on each of the corners are four pieces of uneven HDPE (I told you, whatever they found on the floor they used...) and beneath that are casters. The casters aren't aligned with the front or the back, and one of them doesn't even touch the floor. There are two hinges bolted to one piece of barstock, to originally serve as the hinges for a handle of some sort. Alas, it was not to be, and the hinges remain without handle. There is a piece of rope tied around the two front casters, for lack of a better place to put it. The whole assembly is so ghetto that we have to off-set the robot on our dolly (so part of it hangs off one side) so that the robot doesn't ride on it's sprockets. The whole assembly is kept in one piece by 10 self-tapping screws.

A picture of our robot on the sad dolly: http://www.firstrobotics.net/02gallery/422-1.jpg

Nobody comes close, I'm afraid. If you're going to Maryland this summer, I'll show you the patented way to sit on the dolly and balance the OI on it as well so that you can try chariot racing (the dolly always pulls to the side, unfortunately... so you're always at an angle to where the robot is going...).

Ian, don't even try to counter the claim to ghettoness :)

Oh, and Digo: The english translation of susto is approximately "a big shock or surprise".. I tend to define it as that which can make me jump a foot or two in the air :)

Mike Norton 05-05-2002 19:29

http://www.valleytech.k12.ma.us/Robo...s/roboti88.jpg


To bad we did not go to the national this year but this is what we have taken to the nationals in the past.

This was build with a rear end of a golf cart, a lawnmower, and alot of wood. We had a nice sound system. and plenty of room for all the tools.

We had alot of power in this car.

I forgot to mention the set of air horns to move people out of the way.

DanL 05-05-2002 20:41

Hmm, maybe you did beat our dolly in terms of ghettoness. But WE didn't have any string to pull it by until Saturday! On saturday, we were exauhsted from breaking our backs by leaning over it and pushing it, so we found some rope at the pit admin table and borrowed a few feet. Man, and I thought we were bad... =D

Ian W. 05-05-2002 21:07

lol, dan, i do think that gui has beat us. although the fact that we broke our backs pushing the dang robot to einstein and back, and also carrying the too heavy OI. next year, i'm taking a nice light piece of wood, some crazy glue and/or duct tape, and a few screws for the OI controller. that way, it's nice and light. or, we could just incorporate a "OI Holder" into the dolly that you're modeling. then we can still have a nice big OI with a big "810" on the front. :D MAybe get a huge piece of lexan and put LED's in it. that would top the HUD from 329 :D.

GregT 05-05-2002 21:17

Watch- with all this effort being put into carts, next year's robots will fit in the palm of your hand :)

Andrew Rudolph 05-05-2002 21:46

Quote:

Watch- with all this effort being put into carts, next year's robots will fit in the palm of your hand
HAHAHA wouldnt that be sight to see little robots on huge carts.



a few years ago I rember team 157 the AZtechs had a sweet cart with smoke machiens and sound systems all around a kool thing




Andrew

mpking 06-05-2002 00:29

History is Doomed to Repeat itself
 
About 3 (or is it 4 now because of the season change?) years ago, The NJ Regional was having an undeclared cart contest (I think RoboRaiders were winning, they still have the cart, but they don't use it to full effect) that was spanning multiple years.

Then FIRST asked us (as a Regional as a whole) to not use the lights/music/sirens/airhorns/strobe lights anymore, so everyone stopped.

Period.

I'm not that surprised to see it picking up again, but keep in mind before you blow huge amounts of money on these things, to include an off switch, because FIRST most likely will make the same request again if it starts interfering.

Maybe some self imposed limits of only in the Pits and hallways, but not while the compeition floor is visible will allow the fun to continue longer.

Jim Giacchi 06-05-2002 08:11

No need at the New York Regional and at Nationals we were askd to turn off the music as soon as we passed the first staging volunteer which of course we immediately did. Also the few times we were asked to turn it down so the teams next to us coulld discuss something we also promptly complied.

Koko Ed 06-05-2002 09:52

Best cart hands down, no contest, is Team 68 Truck Town Thunder's mini pickup truck.

dixonij 06-05-2002 12:46

Someone in Virginia had a little car they built. I think it was the team whose bot's name is Horsepower. Im not sure though. It was cool.


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