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Kelvin Ng 09-01-2006 16:27

Re: Ball Collection By Defensive Alliance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mpob
If you are on defense you want to gather, steal, collect, all of the balls,
and starve the other side of ammo.

I don't see why a team on defense would throw anything onto the field, except when the back bot, backed up to the wall and you could load it up.

if you are on defense and you get all 80 balls, and there is still 20 seconds left in that game period, why would you throw them onto the field?
You want to stop the other side from scoring!
If you hold all the balls, the offense cannot score, then when the next period happens you are on offense and you can use all that ammo!
(balls = ammo)


--Mike

Also consider that when your offensive period begins, you'd waste precious seconds loading the balls into your robots/throwing them on the field. I think its best if you threw the balls to the backbot while your alliance is playing defense.

Another interesting thought is...your opponent holds ammo for you in their robots while playing offense. Letting them score into the corner goals gives u ammo when you play offense, while only allowing them to score 1 point per ball. If you get more ammo, you may possibly score more balls in the centre goal, giving you a higher return =). Depends if the robots on your alliance can actually shoot accurately. Otherwise, it may just be better...

auto: score as many points as you can.
defense: prevent scoring, encourage the other team to miss, so you may collect their balls off the field.
offense: unload the balls into the corner goals
last period: play defense, all 3 robots block goals/gaurd shooter

or

auto: same as above
offense: score as many balls as you can, preferrably in the centre goal
defense: encourage the other team to shoot and miss (especially if your alliance is unable to score in the centre goal), or if you are able to score in the centre goal or if the robots must be loaded manually, allow them to score in the corner goals.
last period: do whichever gives your alliance a better chance at winning:

blocking robots
or
scoring

Masterfork 10-01-2006 22:02

Re: Ball Collection By Defensive Alliance
 
i personaly think it is purely engenious because it adds stategy to get the other defensive bots that are ball herders to resupply for the offensive period when it comes along and whey will be loaded and ready from the start,it is also very useful in that aspect it is all strategy for the defensive team because they can really get a handful of balls with the right bot design before they go on the offensive

SoccerNerd36 11-01-2006 16:46

Re: Ball Collection By Defensive Alliance
 
Just a thought: Wouldn't it be smart to put your best shooter as the back bot because if he can collect balls while his team is on defense, right before they become offense he can line place himself at a perfect spot in front of the goal, and unload as soon as the green light turns on. The other bots will be on offense and there will be a period of time when hes wide open in front of the goal resulting in high accuracy and high points.

sciencenerd 11-01-2006 19:21

Re: Ball Collection By Defensive Alliance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashley Christine
A backbot can actually be a huge deal if you think about it, there are a lot of possiblities with what can be done with this bot. At least for a short amount of time. Gotta strategize.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoccerNerd36
Just a thought: Wouldn't it be smart to put your best shooter as the back bot because if he can collect balls while his team is on defense, right before they become offense he can line place himself at a perfect spot in front of the goal, and unload as soon as the green light turns on. The other bots will be on offense and there will be a period of time when hes wide open in front of the goal resulting in high accuracy and high points.

Of course, one must remember that the backbot isn't guaranteed the run of half the field. Any other robot in the game can come there too, the only difference is the backbot has to stay there. So if it turns out that unobstructed, a backbot is way too effective, it is entirely possible that the alliance on offense will send one robot back to intercept and harass the backbot as it collects balls and gets lined up to score.


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