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Donut 11-01-2006 07:53

Re: What is the hardest (yet possible) task in this year's game?
 
That would be quite an impressive defensive robot. If anyone does that I'm going to want to see that in action.

To change some of my last post, the shot from behind half-court would not be required to use the camera, because I don't know if it has enough range to see the target (accurately) from long distances.

I also want to see one alliance score all 30 balls they start with into any combination of the goals during autonomous, as long as all 30 balls score.

Jon K. 11-01-2006 13:30

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Originally Posted by Donut
To change some of my last post, the shot from behind half-court would not be required to use the camera, because I don't know if it has enough range to see the target (accurately) from long distances.


According to one of the people from IFI up at the Kickoff in Manchester New Hampshire, the camera should be able to see full field, like from one set of goals to the other.

geeknerd99 11-01-2006 16:25

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Originally Posted by ngreen
I'd be interested to see a balled launched and then knocked out of the air by the opponents ball, intentionally.

If a team could figure out Star Wars I would be pretty impressed.

The one ball that came in our kit was, of all colors, "vision-tetra green" (that's what we call anything of that color). Ironically, at kickoff, one of our mentors was joking about tracking the balls and shooting them down using the camera. We might mess around with it if we somehow find some free time during build season.

KenWittlief 11-01-2006 16:27

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I think the pasty resistance for this game will be a bot that continuously tracks the goal with its launcher

and IF the goal is within range AND IF a ball is in the bot, it fires all by itself

this means all the driver has to do is drive the bot over balls to pick them up, then drive the bot within range of the goal. The bot does the rest.

If it picks up balls while its in range of the goal it fires them immediately.

That would be awesome

but not easy!

BQuennell 11-01-2006 17:33

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Perhaps a total round score of 125 points, it would be very hard to accomplish.

Wayne C. 11-01-2006 19:46

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Originally Posted by KenWittlief
the hardest task this year is the same as every other year:

getting the engineers out of the crate so you can close it up and the FedEx guy can haul it away!

"Let me just bolt on this one last sensor, and test it...."


so you pack a flashlight and a can of Spam and pick them up at the regional

WC

Zach Purser 12-01-2006 10:04

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Originally Posted by Nuttyman54
We also tried a garbage can Airzooka, but it didn't provide enough air power to reasonably and acurately push a ball

Does anyone else find it disturbing that they are suddenly sold out? :)

Sachiel7 12-01-2006 11:28

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I think the pasty resistance for this game will be a bot that continuously tracks the goal with its launcher
and IF the goal is within range AND IF a ball is in the bot, it fires all by itself
this means all the driver has to do is drive the bot over balls to pick them up, then drive the bot within range of the goal. The bot does the rest.
If it picks up balls while its in range of the goal it fires them immediately.
That would be awesome
but not easy!
We're working on it... :rolleyes:

Barry Bonzack 12-01-2006 11:39

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What about making all 10 shots in autonomous mode without leaving the robot's starting square?



I overheard Dean telling Woodie what two mentors were discussing at kickoff...

"Okay, I'll build a robot that your robot can drive up on, and you can score all the balls into the center goal without going over the 60'' mark."

Sounds quite infeasible, and this would only work if one of the two teams were choosing alliances.

Peter Matteson 12-01-2006 11:44

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Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack
I overheard Dean telling Woodie what two mentors were discussing at kickoff...

"Okay, I'll build a robot that your robot can drive up on, and you can score all the balls into the center goal without going over the 60'' mark."

Sounds quite infeasible, and this would only work if one of the two teams were choosing alliances.

There goes that Voltron idea from last night. ;)

Stu Bloom 12-01-2006 11:56

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Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack
What about making all 10 shots in autonomous mode without leaving the robot's starting square?



I overheard Dean telling Woodie what two mentors were discussing at kickoff...

"Okay, I'll build a robot that your robot can drive up on, and you can score all the balls into the center goal without going over the 60'' mark."

Sounds quite infeasible, and this would only work if one of the two teams were choosing alliances.

infeasible ... maybe ...

But check out this video of two ROOKIES in our VERY FIRST MATCH taking up only one space on the ramp (we're on the bottom) in the 2003 game "Stack Attack".

Dave Scheck 12-01-2006 12:31

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Originally Posted by Stu Bloom
infeasible ... maybe ...

But check out this video of two ROOKIES in our VERY FIRST MATCH taking up only one space on the ramp (we're on the bottom) in the 2003 game "Stack Attack".

That's pretty cool Stu, don't think I saw that one.

Don't forget about this guy

KenWittlief 12-01-2006 12:50

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how about picking up your opponents robot, full of balls

and stuffing it into your goal?

Id pay real money to see that!

Rick TYler 12-01-2006 13:01

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Originally Posted by KenWittlief
I think the pasty resistance for this game will be a bot that continuously tracks the goal with its launcher

I think the beez kneez would be a holonomic-drive bot that uses the camera to constantly track the target light and always faces that direction, with constantly-updated fire solutions feeding to the launcher. Hitting the target while moving parallel to the plane of the goal is the pasty resistance.

GaryVoshol 12-01-2006 14:25

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"Okay, I'll build a robot that your robot can drive up on, and you can score all the balls into the center goal without going over the 60'' mark."
As I read the rule, this is already illegal.

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<G16> Maximum Height - A ROBOT may not extend above 60” above the floor or the ALLIANCE PLATFORM in a stable configuration at any time during a match.
It doesn't say the robot can't be taller than 60", it says the robot can't extend more than 60" over the floor or platform. If it got there by climbing on top of another robot, hasn't it "extended" itself over 60 inches?


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