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Re: Ball Recirculation Question

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<G05> In order for a ball to score, it must enter the goal and exit via the exit chute. A ball that bounces out of the
goal is not scored. Once a ball is scored for a particular ALLIANCE , it cannot score again until it is
entered onto the field by the opposing ALLIANCE’s HUMAN PLAYER.

Ken, you lose ;)

Re: Ball Recirculation Question

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Originally Posted by KenWittlief

really?! ok

<G05> “In order for a ball (what ball, mine or theirs? doenst say)

to score, (score for who?, us or them, it doesnt say)

it must enter the goal and exit via the exit chute” (which goal? it doesnt say)

... “it cannot score again until it is entered onto the field by the opposing ALLIANCE’s HUMAN PLAYER." (now they say "the opposing allinance" - not either alliance - not my alliance").

the words you added to the rule "after your alliance scores a ball" are not in the rule :^)

I chose those words to indicate the case that you are claiming the rules do not allow. The exact words in the rule are more general, but include what I said in addition to what you claim is the only one permitted:

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Originally Posted by <G05>

In order for a ball to score, it must enter the goal and exit via the exit chute. A ball that bounces out of the goal is not scored. Once a ball is scored for a particular ALLIANCE, it cannot score again until it is entered onto the field by the opposing ALLIANCE’s HUMAN PLAYER.

It's right there in black (well, red, anyway) and white. The "particular ALLIANCE" can be either you or them, and the "opposing ALLIANCE" is thus either them or you, respectively. If your alliance gets the points, the other alliance must put it back in play before it can be scored again. If the other alliance gets the points, your alliance must put it back in play before it can be scored again.

Re: Ball Recirculation Question

oh, so thats what was in the "..." part of the first post in this thread?

well thats a horse of a different color! :ahh:

Re: Ball Recirculation Question

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G05> In order for a ball to score, it must enter the goal and exit via the exit chute. A ball that bounces out of the
goal is not scored. Once a ball is scored for a particular ALLIANCE, it cannot score again until it is
entered onto the field by the opposing ALLIANCE’s HUMAN PLAYER.

Why would a opposing alliance member want to throw ball back on the field? Based on this rule, it would behove the opposing alliance NOT tho put the balls back into play. By not putting the balls back in play, they can keep the score down, way down!!

Likewise, they could throw the balls to the backcourt, allowing the backbot time to scoop them up and having a distinct advantage in the next period.

Another type of defensive stratedgy. :mad:

:mad:

Re: Ball Recirculation Question

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Originally Posted by Windwarrior

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Why would a opposing alliance member want to throw ball back on the field? Based on this rule, it would behove the opposing alliance NOT tho put the balls back into play. By not putting the balls back in play, they can keep the score down, way down!!

Likewise, they could throw the balls to the backcourt, allowing the backbot time to scoop them up and having a distinct advantage in the next period.

Another type of defensive stratedgy. :mad:

:mad:

Why would they want to throw the ball back into play? To score points for their alliance.

(Think about it: I'm the red alliance. You just scored a ball in your corner goal, which is right in front of me. I want to do my darndest to either break even and score it in my corner goal, or come out ahead and nail a three. To do that, I have to reintroduce that ball into play.)

Re: Ball Recirculation Question

windwarrior has a valid point. If your alliance strategy is to win by controlling who is on the ramps at the end, then you dont want to put balls back into play

esp if your robots cannot score points with them, or you can only score 1 pointers and your opponets can score the center goal.

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all valid points but has anyone considered the fact that if during autonomous mode your opposing alliance gets alot of points in and you get none, and you do not reintroduce the balls into the field, chances of winning the match are zilch. my personal feelings are thus, "lets all be nice people and GIVE THE BALLS BACK TO THE ROBOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!" :)

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be nice? You never know, your opponents may not be able to get on the ramps at all.

Never knowingly give away a match just to let your opponent rack up a high score.

Play to win :^)

Re: Ball Recirculation Question

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Originally Posted by KenWittlief

be nice? You never know, your opponents may not be able to get on the ramps at all.

Never knowingly give away a match just to let your opponent rack up a high score.

Play to win :^)

true true.

I ddin't think that way. I thought that if I lost the autonomous by a huge amount and didn't reintroduce the balls, I would probably lose.

anywho. point for you.

P.S. GRACIOUS PROFESSIONALISM ROCKS!!!!! ((yes I know, I CAN"T SPELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!))