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Tim Delles 24-01-2006 17:08

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Why not simply turn your robot so that it's at an angle or even facing sideways on the ramp? Assuming you're not using wheels that swivel, it should work and be easier to implement than brakes.
Because that takes time, little fo which should be exerted on getting onto the ramp if you decide to do it. the less time you take on the ramp the more time you have to score.

greencactus3 24-01-2006 19:29

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so wait. if a robot is running full speed towards the ramp, and right before the buzzer it shifts to neutral, and a couple seconds (within 10) after the buzzer it rolls onto and stays on the ramp. is that going to be scored? there are ways to mechanically store energy until the power is cut and then it has a way to move the robot onto the ramp and keep it there... is that going to be allowed?

EricH 24-01-2006 20:16

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Originally Posted by greencactus3
so wait. if a robot is running full speed towards the ramp, and right before the buzzer it shifts to neutral, and a couple seconds (within 10) after the buzzer it rolls onto and stays on the ramp. is that going to be scored? there are ways to mechanically store energy until the power is cut and then it has a way to move the robot onto the ramp and keep it there... is that going to be allowed?

Historically, it would be scored. The only ways I can think of to store energy after the match (pneumatics and springs) would neither have the power nor the range to get a robot onto the ramp. Lock it in place, yes, but get it on, no.

Tim Delles 24-01-2006 21:09

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Basically look at it this way.

If you are not on the ramp at the end, there is almost no chance you are going to be able to get your robot completely on the ramp. There is a lot of physics involved with this, but im assuming that you would have to be going at a very uncontrollable and unatainable speed to be able to coast onto the ramp after power was shut off. However if teams would like to give it a try go for it and tell me how it turns out.

KenWittlief 24-01-2006 22:48

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Originally Posted by greencactus3
so wait. if a robot is running full speed towards the ramp, and right before the buzzer it shifts to neutral, and a couple seconds (within 10) after the buzzer it rolls onto and stays on the ramp. is that going to be scored?

There have been bots over the years that had mechanisms that were triggered at the end of the match, or when the power to the controllers is removed, and they moved in a way to score points after the buzzer.

Very impressive if you can pull it off. One that comes to mind is the game of 1999, when the bots had to hold scoring objects 8 feet in the air to score.

a few had slow moving spring or surgical tubing extenders that raised slowly after being released.

Total engineering elegance when it works.

Nitroxextreme 05-02-2006 13:05

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Has this been asked in the Q & A forum because it could effect many designs...I believe

Ethulin 05-02-2006 17:02

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Originally Posted by Nitroxextreme
Has this been asked in the Q & A forum because it could effect many designs...I believe

I just asked, awaiting a response.

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