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TubaMorg 01-02-2006 14:04

Re: Teams going after the ramp?
 
We are planning on installing a parking brake on one wheel. To mount the ramp we are going to hit it at an angle as fast as we can, engage the parking brake and slide sideways into our parking spot. This way we don't have to worry about tilting backwards! The key component to this plan is speed though! :D

Starke 01-02-2006 14:07

Re: Teams going after the ramp?
 
something i just thought of. you can use the reverse method. how about instead of pinning an opposing robot on you ramp, sit on their ramp and prevent them from coming up. that gives them 5 points but not 25.

Rick TYler 01-02-2006 14:10

Re: Teams going after the ramp?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TubaMorg
We are planning on installing a parking brake on one wheel. To mount the ramp we are going to hit it at an angle as fast as we can, engage the parking brake and slide sideways into our parking spot.

Here is a video of Team 1480 parking their robot.

GaryVoshol 01-02-2006 14:22

Re: Teams going after the ramp?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starke340
something i just thought of. you can use the reverse method. how about instead of pinning an opposing robot on you ramp, sit on their ramp and prevent them from coming up. that gives them 5 points but not 25.

If you can prevent all of them from getting up the ramp this might be something to look at. However, remember you have just given them 5 points, and taken 15 points away from your own alliance. If you are successful in blocking them, the net is +5 for your alliance. But if they can get one robot on the ramp despite your maneuvering to block, the net effect is 0. You would have achieved the same result if you ignored their ramping attempts and just focused on your own end.

If you know they can't get at least one of their robots on their ramp, you will come out +15 by getting all three on your own ramp.

You may be able to block the other alliance and then scoot off their ramp at the last second, thus depriving them of the 5 points your bot would have scored. Even so, not much gain for a risky strategy.

Modulardragon 01-02-2006 14:42

Re: Teams going after the ramp?
 
Since i'm seeing a lot of out-of-the-box ideas, what about this? If your robot can shoot well and time's running down, dump a load of balls on their flat part of the ramp. it prevents them getting on the ramp :S. I know its a little bit of a point loss, but it could be worth it.

Marcel 01-02-2006 15:37

Re: Teams going after the ramp?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed
Getting up the ramp is a major part of our strategy (it's 5 points at least and 25 if all three bots get up there. Why not do it?). So much so that we emphasized a bot with a low center of gravity as a major design feature (that means we want a bot under three feet tall) .

Another nice thing about robots with a low center of gravity is that it'll be much harder to have someone hit you to fall.

TubaMorg 01-02-2006 21:50

Re: Teams going after the ramp?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick TYler
Here is a video of Team 1480 parking their robot.


RATS! I guess yall beat us to our idea already! :)

plutonium83 02-02-2006 17:37

Re: Teams going after the ramp?
 
I see people talking about the 25 point bonus for the ramp but realistically, will most of your alliance partners be able to climb the ramp?

Eldarion 02-02-2006 17:46

Re: Teams going after the ramp?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by plutonium83
I see people talking about the 25 point bonus for the ramp but realistically, will most of your alliance partners be able to climb the ramp?

That was my problem; however it looks like most will based on this poll!

Anime-niac_2.9 02-02-2006 18:08

Re: Teams going after the ramp?
 
Code:

#include<iostream.h>intmain(void){usingnamespacestd;cout<<"I am sure there will be several teams who will design their robot so that"<<endl<<they can help the other robots on their alliance up the ramp."<<endl<<endl;/*don't know if correct*/system(PAUSE);return0;}
Just try reading this.

nate234 02-02-2006 18:51

Re: Teams going after the ramp?
 
Even the best-laid plans sometimes don't work out. Most teams probably plan to get up the ramp, but when push comes to shove, I don't believe many teams will manage to get up the ramp in the crunch of the last seconds.

DCat 02-02-2006 21:04

Re: Teams going after the ramp?
 
We hope we can make up the ramp. It would be tough to have your alliance members setting there waiting for you. Maybe they will be able to drag us up???

blaskay16 02-02-2006 21:42

Re: Teams going after the ramp?
 
we at team 815 can go up the ramp from a sitting position at the base of the ramp while carrying 120 lbs. this was one of our main goals

Gdeaver 02-02-2006 22:41

Re: Teams going after the ramp?
 
With out any obstructions (balls - other robots) it's relatively easy to go up the ramp straight on. Try it at an angle approach with the robot at competition weight . It's a little more interesting

DjAlamose 03-02-2006 09:25

Re: Teams going after the ramp?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Modulardragon
Since i'm seeing a lot of out-of-the-box ideas, what about this? If your robot can shoot well and time's running down, dump a load of balls on their flat part of the ramp. it prevents them getting on the ramp :S. I know its a little bit of a point loss, but it could be worth it.

Ok, the space those balls would take up is minimal. It would take 20 or so balls to begin to prevent a robot weighing 145lbs (battery and bumpers) from going up the ramp. Remember your robot needs to be off the carpet not on top of the ramp. Plus if you spat those balls up there you could have just spat them into a goal and gained 20 pts instead of blocking 15 at most. I really do think it is better just to be able to get more points during the play period and not worry about the ramp. But things do change and we hope our top heavy robot can make it up the ramp...

But then again gyroscopes... gyroscopes...


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