No glue... :(
 

Hi,

I heard that we aren't allowed to use glue for anything on the robot. Just randomly I thought, what about PVC cement? Does PVC Cement fall under FIRST's description of "glue"? Thanks to whoever is able to answer my question...

- Josh
"... who says we're using pvc?" >_>

Re: No glue... :(
 

Who told you that, and did they quote a rule from the current manual? Adhesives are allowed (and glue is certainly an adhesive), provided that they: 1) are not used as traction devices (<R32>, last sentence); 2) follow <R33> rules on tape (labelling and insulating purposes only); and 3) are accounted for costwise if they are over $1. (Oh, and incidentally, you are using PVC. <R13> has details.) If you are still unsure--Q&A it.

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thanks a bunch.. it seems i need new, more reliable sources of information...

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I was also under the understanding that glue was allowed, with the above cautions and also that it does not get on the carpet/floor. :)

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Well if glue wasn't allowed I think there would be quite a few teams unhappy as they use plywood base robots... Ex. 173, 195 and I know there are others.

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i have a bad experience with plywood. it is a good thing that the likelyhood of those robots forming sparks while moving is very small. oherwise...yeah, you know what I mean.

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Well with the kind of electricity we're dealing with, it wouldn't be sparks that could be a fire hazard, but shorted out electronics. More than once a motor has belched flames in a competition, in that case you'd better pray you used fire-retardant plywood.

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fireproof plywood?

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Oh man, that Gorilla Glue does wonders.

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i never heard of no glue

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no glue is not a name, but means the absence of(no) glue

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It's what holds the B-2 Spirit and F-22 Raptor together...

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are those military aircraft? man, no wonder they su-...turned out so great!

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Hey now, lay off the B-2 and the F-22

Some of the best stuff in the air EVER. Enemies dead before they even know it's there? Seriously. Now, the B-17 was sometimes glued...

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i hope you mean to the ground. MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

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sorry about that. I usually get caught up in the moment like that, so don't worry. I just love to piss people off. I usually intended to say "no wonder they fly so fast," but I was tempted with my habit to piss people off and act sarcastic.

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Haven't seen that, but I remember two instances where it almost happened. First one--1999 at SVR. One of the robots started smoking (white, luckily--or not) during a match. Second one--Last year at LA. A rookie team had a robot that dumped tetras under the goals. Something happened, I'm not sure what. The robot got stuck in a goal and began spitting a shower of sparks about a foot high every time it tried to move.

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Team 691 caught fire at SoCal a couple years ago, IIRC.

Even more ironic due to their name (Hartburn)

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That doesn't seem that bad. A senior on my team lit himself on fire...twice.