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Lil' Lavery 09-02-2006 09:38

Re: Backbot interaction
 
The backbot(s) will determine the "tempo" of the match depending on how the alliance uses them, what their capabilities are, and how the opponent reacts to them. Some teams will prefer a fast tempo, high offense match, while others will like a slower, defensive match. Likewise, some teams will prefer "burst scoring" while others steady, constant scoring. The backbot will define how the defense is going to play during the defensive period, and how much of that period the offense will have to score (if they wish to remain in control of the tempo of the match).

Conor Ryan 09-02-2006 10:06

Re: Backbot interaction
 
Heres a strategy that a bunch of the New Jersey BMS teams (25, 381, 1089, 1403, 1807) agreed would work really well and addresses the back bot pretty well, and consistantly get you a lot of points. Do remember that no strategy is perfect, some are just better than others

Autonomous- Get all the points you can, your best bet will to get 30 points shooting to the center whatever gets you the most points, do it. Above all, WIN autonomous, at least 7 times out of 10 the winner of Auto. will be winner of the match.

Round 2- So you won autonomous, great job, your on your way to victory (hopefully) now what do you do, your on defence! Don't worry about defence too much, get balls! We are pretty sure that teams won't have too much of a problem shooting balls, getting them will be a little tougher. If your playing defence, make it so the human players can't get the balls that you just scored into their robots easily. If they don't have any balls they can't score. It's a big game of keep away. Your best ball collector (the one with the best balance of ground and human player collecting) is your back bot. This way they can use their skills at collecting to the max.

Round 3- Your turn to play offence! Collect balls for at least 10-25 seconds, after that start scoring like CRAAAAAZY. Start overloading the other alliance with points, keep making those shots and getting those balls into the goals. The idea is that you overload their human players so that they can't get the balls on the field fast enough to be affective, score in large loads and well beat the human player.

Round 4- It's open! if you have any balls keep overloading hte human players, if you have a large enough lead, play keep away and shoot if your open. Make sure you leave at least 8-10 seconds to get everyone on the ramp, in low scoring matches the ramp is gonna be the key factor. 25 points is worth more than 8 balls through the center, get on your alliance platform!

Your backbot, should be able to collect the balls the best. Make sure it has the best balance between human player loading and ground loading, and emptying the human player is key so they don't get overloaded with balls during the other rounds. Human player capacity is a limiting factor and make sure your strategies address that.

Sachiel7 09-02-2006 10:13

Re: Backbot interaction
 
Quote:

Make sure you leave at least 8-10 seconds to get everyone on the ramp, in low scoring matches the ramp is gonna be the key factor. 25 points is worth more than 8 balls through the center, get on your alliance platform!
With a nice feature on our bot, we will be able to wait until the last 1-2 seconds to get up onto the ramp, possibly from across the field, but mostly mid-field. Talk about piling in those last few balls! :yikes:

Donut 09-02-2006 23:29

Re: Backbot interaction
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Conor Ryan
Make sure you leave at least 8-10 seconds to get everyone on the ramp, in low scoring matches the ramp is gonna be the key factor. 25 points is worth more than 8 balls through the center, get on your alliance platform!

Your team already gets 10 points for your partners, so if you can score at least 15 (at least 5 balls), it may be worth it to not go back.

Nimmy 10-02-2006 10:57

Re: Backbot interaction
 
I was thinking about a diffrent strategy for the back bot
since there are really 3vs2 on the defense and the backbot all he can do is collect balls, if your opponents allready shot all his balls and your backbot is fully stacked up
why not switch the backbot?

so that 2 of your bots will be fully stacked, that way you can do it so at the end of your 40seconds 3 of your bots are fully stacked and ready to lunch

no point in leaving the backbot there doing nothing...

Lil' Lavery 12-02-2006 11:53

Re: Backbot interaction
 
I agree with the above post. Flexability in the backbot is going to be essential. The one time I would tend to disagree is late in the period. Being in key positions during "transition" phases is going to be very important. The first and last 3-5 seconds of each period will be the most important in most matches.


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