The answer my friend is blowing in the wind...

Well...
 

On my team we have a saying"Failure is not an option" and "If duct tape can't fix it neither can all kings horses and all the kings men"

"If it jams...force it, if it breaks...it needed fixing anyway"

"dont force it, get a bigger hammer"

and one everyone has heard..."measure with a micrometre, mark it with chalk, and cu with a chainsaw"

"Opps"

If it ain't broke, you ain't tryin'

(From the best rolemodel anyone can have.... Red Green)

-S cubed

Picked this one up along the way, but I love it:

You know you're an engineer if you have no life & can prove it mathematically.

Why the *%$#@&#(*$ code wont work::D
'Anything that happens, happens.

Anything that, in happening, causes something else to happen, causes something else to happen.

Anything that, in happening, causes itself to happen again, causes itself to happen again.

It doesnt necesarily do it in chronological order, though.'

-Douglas Adams

And of course, in a 8x8 pit area, 'too many cooks in the kitchen ruin the meal'

Another kind of BIOS error: burrice insistente do operador de sistemas (insistent stupidity of the systems operator)

"The robot is half a pound overweight...that's it CJ no more ones in the code zeros only..."
"...but zeros have more surface area"

(In a loud and very official voice) "disable switch on!"
"...that means it's off right?"

"I think I stuck it in one of the bins"

reminds me of our predicament in the robotics room. we had a really BIG TABLE in the middle of the room where ALL the parts and tools were

if you were ever looking for something, and someone said "yeah. it's on the table. " you would immediately get a very scared look in your eyes, and go enlist some freshmen to help you for the next hour or so while you rummaged through EVERYTHING on the table (giant pile)

I just heard this one at nationals:

As we were replacing a broken belt and a bad key in (opposite sides of) our robot's drive train, we found out that we had been picked. I said to our driver, who at that moment was lying on his back in a pile of tools underneath a robot with no wheels, "Looks like we got our date for the prom."

To which he responded, "Yeah, but we have nothing to wear."

That cracked me up.

Well, for our team, we had "Our Robot Sucks."

Literally, it did. (We created a vacuum using the pneumatic cylinders)

We had something we named last year "the closet of unspeakable horrors." Take a guess what that place is like, its got parts of Rainmaker 1 back in there (from 4 years ago).

From the book Syrup by Maxx Barry--

"I read somewhere that the average adult has three million-dollar ideas per year."

"So everybody's got ideas. Ideas are cheap. What's unique is the conviction to follow through: to work at it until it pays off. That's what separates the person who thinks I wonder why they can't just make shampoo and conditioner in one? from the one who thinks Now, should I get the Mercedes, or another BMW?"

Gets ya thinking, don't it?

"If it works, its obviously not complicated enough"

when ever some one says something like, "you can't do that" or "that can't fit in that space" or "I bet you wont...."
my response is always

"Is that a challenge..."

Joe: "You (Kyle) won't jump in the pool with your clothes on."
Kyle: "Is that a challange?"
Joe: "Yup."

Kyle walks around with wet boots for the next three days at nationals.

The Law of Need:

If you go to a store looking for something you NEED, it won't be there. If you pass by a store that you think won't have it, it will.

The Law of Asking:

The one person you ask won't know, the one you don't ask will.

"Everytime you integrate, god kills a kitten."

Somethign to think about.

Not really an engieering one but if you are going for an engineering degree, you will be killing kittens by proxy alot.

Credit to my Cal 3 Prof, apparently some people in the dept have some poster with this on it.

The Engineer Postulate:

Time Expected x 3 = Time Actual

-I noticed that if i needed something done in a day, it was done in 3 days
-If i said meet me in an hour, it was usually dragged onto 3 hours later

so use this to your advantage, if you need something done in an hour, say you need it in 20 minutes!

It works so well!

ByE

erin

Engineering Rule #20423a

It will take 5x as many newbies to complete something than a seasoned vet, yet they will still do it wrong.

Engineering Rule #1394k

No matter how good you are in math, you always will have a mistake that you missed.

Ha, they were only wet for 2 days, i took off my water prof watch and my MOE bandanna but not the boots, meh, it was nice having that squeaking sound when i walked around.

Emerson quote...
 

Not really a "slogan" per se, but IMHO an interesting commentary on the entire fields of Science and Engineering. BTW... Consider that this quote comes from 19th Century:

"By his machines man can dive and remain under water like a shark; can fly like a hawk in the air; can see atoms like a gnat; can see the system of the universe of Uriel, the angel of the sun; can carry whatever loads a ton of coal can lift; can knock down cities with his fist of gunpowder; can recover the history of his race by the medals which the deluge, and every creature, civil or savage or brute, has involuntarily dropped of its existence; and divine the future possibility of the planet and its inhabitants by his perception of laws of nature." - Ralph Waldo Emerson, 1803-1882, U.S. essayist, poet, and philosopher, Letters and Social Aims, "Resources" (1876)

- Keith

kmcclary, this one was GOLD and bears repeating:

> All the water in the world cannot sink the smallest ship unless it gets inside


Now for my own (stolen) slogan...does no one else say "Make it So?"

And my original...if it looks cheesy, it is cheesy. Sorry poofs.

Eric.

of course it is always in the last place you look... why would you keep looking after you have found it??

"God made integers, all else is the work of man" - David M. Bryer - Engineer on Team 5

"Physics is like sex. It has its uses, but that's not why we do it."

- Richard Feynman

:D

now replace "Physics" with "Robotics" :yikes:

"No matter what breaks in the machine, it's always the programmer's fault" -Mike Walker

...yeah Mike

...and some times it really is :D

Our team doesn't really have any things to help rookies learn how to build stuff, but one thing is for sure on our team, it is ALWAYS Dash's fault.

This is Dash, our driver.

WOW! My brother is majoring in physics at Cal Poly San Luis and he bought my dad a shirt that had that same quote on the back of it. And that quote is very, very true.

Here's Richard Feynman

My unofficial engineering slogan is:

"Well, if it doesn't work, then we're..um....pretty screwed"

Also I include everything said on goodquotes.com

haha, we had "measure twice, cut once," but at sacramento we had 2 groups of people working on shortening the same piece of metal

basically, i told someone to get to work shortening it, and then started working on it myself with another person. after we were done, while we weren't looking, they shortened it by the same amount.

(btw, thanks BCP for saving us from that little incident)

measure 4 times, cut twice ;)



oh, and our robotics advisor is leaving :sob: :( and he happens to be a physics teacher, so we gave him a plaque saying "Robotics is like Physics. It has its uses, but that's not why we do it."

:D

I heard this one from my dad..
"Measure once, cut twice, and it's still too short...";)

this said after two 1/16 inch drill bits were broken by the same person drilling the same hole 2 mins after one another....

"Use the lube, its there for any job..."

Now you had to be there to get the full laugh of it, beacuse we had 1 member walking in as they said that, that person stopped turned around and walked right out, not coming back for 10 mins...
~Mike

"To understand few is better than to understand wrongly."





Digo
By the way, it has been a long time!

Programming slogans
 

"Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with the software."

"The only programmers that ever see the dawn are those that have been up all night debugging code..."

"Programmers are always the last ones in the pipeline to touch any new system. Therefore even if their first chance to lay their hands on real hardware came 24 hours before shipment, THEY will be the ones blamed for any system failures, never the mechanical nor electrical crews for holding onto it for so long."

"C code. C code run. Run, darn it, RUN!"

"Keep upgrading your processor's speed to the highest available, so you can reboot Windows faster..."

- Keith

some of my own favorite sayings

"if it doesnt work, beat it w/ a hammer. Still doesnt work, get a bigger hammer"

" a sledge hammer shall be know as the percision adjustment tool"

"when in doubt, steel toe"

"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization. - Weinberg's Second Law"

" OI's are not plug and play"

And posibbly my favorite quote of all ( which just happens to be completely unrelated)

"i think it all started when i was one, when i fell outta the shoping cart in the grocery store and had to spend the night in the hospital w/ a concussion"- Jesse James:cool:

Engineering slogans
 

please send me some slogan for instrumentation and control engineering.
u can mail me at : aakash30@hotmail.com
thanx a lot everyone...hope u guys will help me out. :cool:

Re: Engineering slogans
 

OK...I'm the programmer for my team, and the REST of the team's favorite slogan is...

It's a programming problem. :rolleyes:

My pay back for them...(which I'm usually right)...is by saying...

It's a wiring problem.

We were working on a switch yesterday, and I said this and it turned out to be true! :D

Re: Engineering slogans
 

It's not "good", it's "good enough" - Our team's slogan when we screw up but it still works.

"If we win, it's cause we have a good robot. If we lose, it's the driver's fault." (I was the driver when we came up with that).

Re: Engineering slogans
 

My kingdom for a/an/some (Place desired item here)

It'll never work!

If it breaks, make it bigger. If it breaks again....MOVE!

Re: Engineering slogans
 

"is it done yet?"

Re: Engineering slogans
 

Our team's motto:

Its only temporary... unless it works

Re: Engineering slogans
 

I cant take credit for these, but my favorite section is you might be an engineer if:



clicky

clicky2

You mught be addicted to FIRST if you know your schools midnight janitor, tell him you'll lock up in a little while, and often are the last soul in the building

Re: Engineering slogans
 

in my class in school its "if it doesn't fit get the bloww torch" (heat makes things wider for those of you who dind't know)

Re: Engineering slogans
 

the unoffical list of things said around our robotics rooms

-- You want me to get INCENTIVE? --
-- If it aint light, put it on the sandwich diet --
-- some peices of metal went to church, this sunday --
-- if it aint related to eucher, it aint canadian --

yeah i know they are really lame, but u had to be there, and the incentive comment, yeah those of u who watched the canadian regional might understand it.

note: nylon rope cannot be joined using solder, though i can be joined by holding a match underneath it, but sadly it will not return to its original strength.


Mohsin
Team 772
Club Sandwich
You want fries with that?

Re: Engineering slogans
 

Safety is no accident!

Re: Engineering slogans
 

From a sign in my office and in those of engineers I know:

"Lack of planning on your part does not consitute an emergency on my part" (a personal favorite)

"Never question the judgment of an engineer" (a bit of tongue-in-cheek humor)

"Of course I don't look busy. I did it right the first time."

and my engineer husband's reply anytime I say something is broken: "did you hit it with a hammer yet?"

Maybe not "engineering" related, but all things appreciated by engineers.

Kelly :)

Re: Engineering slogans
 

I've seen this on a shirt in a magazine, I think it's pretty good.

:o

Re: Engineering slogans
 

I prefer IOTTMCO.

Intuitively obvious to the most casual observer.

--Petey

Re: Engineering slogans
 

I heard a potential quote of the day tonight at our meeting from our Head Mentor of electrical/programming.

"I hate programs that think they know more than I do."

Re: Engineering slogans
 

Some of my favorites;

The program is never wrong.
I've cut it off three times and it's still too short.
If all else fails, read the instructions.

*throws $.02 at kitty*

Wayne Doenges
CAD Mentor

Re: Engineering slogans
 

I know its not quite an engineering slogan, but sometimes our freshmen can be quite immature. I heard a good quote and have had to use it more than I like.

"Try to act your age, not your shoe size."

Re: Engineering slogans
 

Those are hilarious. But your yin-yang animation mesmerized me for a minute. You might want to do something about that. :yikes:

Re: Engineering slogans
 

"When in doubt, throw it out."

"Don't just stand there....Do something, even if it's wrong.....you can always do it again."

"Measure twice, cut once."

"If it's worth doing, it's worth your time to do it right".

Re: Engineering slogans
 

Over time our teams come to adopt the quote:
"If it doesn't work, blame the captain!"
It usual breaks up the stress at the time ;)

Re: Engineering slogans
 

We are obsessed with KISS, Keep It Simple Stupid, although we sometimes make a change to go with one of our mentors, Keep It Simple Scherman. :)

Re: catagorizing
 

"r0x0rz the s0x0rz"

"Honk if j00 r0x0rz!"

Re: Engineering slogans
 

Anything above the minimum is a waste! :ahh:

Re: Engineering slogans
 

While I was talking to another student in one of my engineering classes, I was telling her that she's lucky to be in a major with such great odds, namely the high guy to girl ratio.

She countered with something along the lines of...

Yes, the odds are good... but the goods are odd!

It definitely made me crack up.

Matt

Re: Engineering slogans
 

This is an old favorite from my team:
"Good enough for government work"

This is a new one from this year:
"Shut Up and Build"

These two are common statements from last year:
"Our first priority is Plan B."

"Well I can't get it to work." "Crush it in the vice and call it a day."

Then you have to include this one:
"God help us we're in the hands of engineers." Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park, 1993

Re: Engineering slogans
 

"That will do... For now I guess"

"Ah just go ahead and run it like it is"

Re: Engineering slogans
 

On that note we borrow a labelmaker early last quarter and labeled all kinds of things around our new, larger shop; most prominently our mid floor electrical sockets (which stick up about 6 inches and have 4 plugs, and make very pretty blue smoke when they short), which now read, "don't trip."
So far, only one or two people haven't tripped over them.

Oh, and my engineering slogan is:
"If it has to be perfect, find a mathematician; if you want it to work, find an engineer"

Re: Engineering slogans
 

"Whats the difference between a Mechanical Engineer and a Civil Engineer?
Mechanical Engineers build bombs, Civil Engineers build targets"

Re: Engineering slogans
 

"$@#$@#$@#$@# the robots, they're supposed to be our faithful servants" - Chandler Bing (Friends)

Re: Engineering slogans
 

My wife, also an engineer, once observed a group of guy engineers tweaking some hardware to get the last 0.001% and commented wryly "...they're gonna fix it until it's broken".

-Kevin

Re: Engineering slogans
 

That wouldn't be the first time i heard that. My dad told me whats the difference between Civil and Mechanical Engineers....Some time to think..No Idea!...Well Mechanical Engineers build guns and weapons. Civil Engineers build targets for them.

Re: Engineering slogans
 

Everything Craftsman makes is a hammer...some of them just look funny

Re: Engineering slogans
 

If something breaks........just use duck tape, life's geatest tool. :D

Re: Engineering slogans
 

Here is one I think everyone would like!
:yikes:
If you start with junk you will end with junk ;)

Re: Engineering slogans
 

"If the prototype works so well, why not just mount the prototype on the robot?"

Re: Engineering slogans
 

Here's one for you programers:
P.E.B.C.A.K.(problem exists between chair and keyboard)

Re: Engineering slogans
 

Were not building a church.

Re: Engineering slogans
 

I can't read this whole thing... :ahh: :ahh: But one of our mentors wears the shirt...

"if it isn't broken....


Take it apart and fix it"

Re: Engineering slogans
 

Good enough for government work

(programming ones)
It's all the engineers/electrical people's fault
PEBKAC i like
In theory...
It worked before
It should work...

Re: Engineering slogans
 

Re: Engineering slogans
 

"Education is directly proportional to the amount of equipment you burn up"

Live by it!

Re: Engineering slogans
 

In life there are only two tools necessary; duct tape and WD40. If it moved and it should not, then use the duct tape. If it does not move and it should, then use WD40.

You have experienced a UBF (User Brain Failure) error.

No your other left

And finally Murphy’s Law of fools…when you fool proof something, someone invents a better fool.
:D

Re: Engineering slogans
 

S.W.A.G.

-Scientific Wise-$@#$@#$@# Guess

Why bother with all of the calculations?

Re: Engineering slogans
 

my slogan is "just because it's not the right tool for the job doesn't mean you can't use it"

Re: Engineering slogans
 

That reminds me of a funny quote: "Software programming is a race between programmers to create bigger and better programs and the universe to create bigger and better idiots. So far the universe is winning." I may have paraphrased, so here's another quote: "You can never trust a stupid mans account of what a smart man has said, because the stupid person subconsciously translates what the smart person said into terms he can understand." Or something like that.

Re: Engineering slogans
 

Hvae any of you ever read the Jumbo Book of Duct Tape? Very quotable, and it may give you some ideas for a robot. Who would've thought that you could make a helicopter out of electric fans and a lawn chair?

Re: Engineering slogans
 

How about a hovercraft?

FIRST had a tradition back in the early 90's for fielding "The Placebo". Due to the limited number of teams, a bot was fielded by FIRST to fill the space, yet not really accomplish much during the match. (The was before the concept of alliances was introduced, each team was for itself)

The three Placebo's I directly experianced were

1998 - The Box. The last Placebo, just a plywood box that sat on the field
1997 - The Cleaner. A vacuum cleaner outfited with motors and a radiocontrol unit. Actually managed to score some points. (Our team would always throw some Torroids on the handle to score the Placebo some points)
1996 - Hovercraft. First using only the Kit of parts (Plus two extra drill motors) created a hovercraft.

They're were others before those years, but I wasn't in FIRST then.

Re: Engineering slogans
 

Comment usually preceding a spectacular failure:

"I can't think of any reason why it won't work."

- Rick

Re: Engineering slogans
 

Work hard or go home

Better lucky than good (never ask for the story about that one)

Do it right, or do it elsehwere

Re: Engineering slogans
 

"send Genna" (whenever we send him to search for a tool that we cant find it always shows up right infront of our faces)

"if mike is 1000% sure it will work, dont do it" (mike is our pr guy who likes to tighten bolts to tight when he works in the shop)

Re: Engineering slogans
 

"You only need 3 tools. If it moves and it shouldn't, use duct tape. If it doesn't move and it should, use WD-40 and a hammer."

Re: Engineering slogans
 

"If it can't survive being thrown out the window, then it's not going to survive competition"

Re: Engineering slogans
 

You can't polish a turd.

Re: Engineering slogans
 

This is a variant of two old classics, which are probably up there in the previous 19 pages of quotes which I am not nearly dedicated enough to look through.

#1. Military version: If it moves, salute it. If it doesn't move, paint it.
#2. Aerospace version: Cut to size, beat to fit, paint to match.

A couple of others I've come across:

#3. Any technical problem that can be fixed with money isn't really a problem.
#4. "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity." Robert Heinlein

Re: Engineering slogans
 

"Were makin chicken salad outta chicken s&*t"
-said whenever we have to 'ghettofab' something, or 'move' a hole around..

Re: Engineering slogans
 

lol, A guy was on the drill press drilling a steel plate and the press sucked it outa the vice and it started spinning arround at 750 RPM and shot off like a throwing star and stuck in the cinder block wall.

Oh yea, and my quote is "If at first you dont succeede, get a bigger hammer"

Re: Engineering slogans
 

ooo, here is another one

"never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers"

Re: Engineering slogans
 

heres another

Programers are like the opposite sex, can't live with 'em can't live without 'em

Re: Engineering slogans
 

"It will always take you twice as long as you think to finish a job. If you double the time you think it will take, it will take you four times as long."

Thanks to a poster I saw at UC Davis High School for this one.

Re: Engineering slogans
 

I havent read all these in a while.

more math than engineering, but "There is no sqr(-1) in team"

sqr= Square root

Re: Engineering slogans
 

If it works make it work better!

Three working gearboxes were taken apart and I was put in charge of sanding the shafts to fit smoother into the bearings and gears. Well they fit. Basically it takes the combined effort of a set-screw and spacers to keep the shafts in place.

Re: Engineering slogans
 

If the goal was built graciously and professionaly. It should be capped with speed and autonomously."
word to the programmers

Re: Engineering slogans
 

we made a quote book



p.s. i quite!