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Engineering slogans
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On my team, we have the saying "righty-tighty, lefty-loosy" to teach the kiddies which way to turn the screwdriver. (if only they'd remember:rolleyes: ) Does your team have any funny/useful slogans for remembering technical/engineering things?:D |
I know that one, it doesn't really help me, though; I always have to remember that "right" really means "clockwise"...
Of course we have "KISS" (Keep it simple, stupid) and "MISS" (Make it square, ...) and there is Murphy's Law, that I like to quote, in all its variations... |
If it doesn't fit get a larger hammer.
Seriously though one year the head engineer actually gave out certificates that proved we were all members of the "Cold Forging" club. |
Smaller
If u are making something with a tool that is not quite percise always make things smaller (especially holes)....I always say this to myself when i'm making something....maybe cut a little big so u can sand it down to the exact size, because if u make it to big you cant go back, but if u make it small you have room for error...
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my two cents only...
I saw some team at the nationals that I thought had a really cool engineering slogan:
"Some people say the galss is half full. Some people say the glass is half empty. We say the glass is twice as big as it needs to be." I love that one... I'm bored guys, so someone open an interesting post that I can read and post in and so on, pleeeeeeease ;-) |
"Where's my BFH"?
My own personal saying, not related to the team. |
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For some reason (I'm sure you can guess) my team took to calling hammers "fine adjustment tools". If you were to talk by our pit at nats you would hear us saying we needed to make a few fine adjustments, and be handed a hammer.
If it doesn't fit wack it really hard... that cost my team 4 hours waiting for the machine shop :) when it's supposed to be a sliding fit, a hammer is not necessary. That said, we labled our robot front and back. We spent 90% of our time at nats broken, and 60 - 70% of that time at the top of the white devision. At NYC we left our shielding all over the field our first practice. at nats we left a chain on the field. "If it aint broken don't fix it. If it is broken it won't be alone for long." "Warentee Void if broken" I use that glass saying almost every other day, love it. |
"beat to fit.....paint to match"
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'Beware of the Killing Machine' aka the Milling Machine....when a bit breaks off of that...its deadly..... |
...If it ain't broken don't fix it...
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My personal favorites...
If it ain't broke, don't fix it! Measure twice, cut once. (I cut it twice and it is still too short!?) Get the persuader. (Hammer reference) The right tool for the right job. (Don't use a cannon to kill a fly!) All time best Murphy's Law...Murphy's fifth law, the law of selective gravitation... A dropped tool will fall where it will do the most damage. Team favorites... We'll fix it in software. Have fun. |
"Righty-tighty, lefty-loosy" and "the right tool for the right job" were introduced in our team by our mentor in 2000 (great Phil!!), but I guess this last one wasn't very accepted.
Once in 2000 we were trying to remove a lock nut from a screw, and it was the kind of lock nut with rubber, made not to be easily removed. The kids (me included at that time) tried to do that with about 12 or 13 different tools! A guy even brought a soldering iron (trying to melt the rubber). And then Phil came with a screw driver (!) and did it. I didn't know hammers were so popular in other teams as well! There's nothing that a hammer and some cable ties won't solve. |
hehe for us we arent hamer people, we are vice grip people. but our saying is "thats the C.E. in R.A.C.E.!" basically anytime we need to creatively engineer anything we say that when we are done. basically when we need to ghetto rig things fast
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do you mind sharing the meaning of that? :D
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Well our team name is R.A.C.E. Which Stands for Robotics And Creative Engineering. Creative engeering for us is when you kinda fib a fix to somthing, or get the job done with sub par materials. We used to call it engineering problem solving. But now its creative engineering. and that is what is meant by "thats the C.E. in RACE!"
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The Mech Techs are a big fan of "Measure once, cut twice." Our electrocube was supposed to be 4 in x 10 in x 10 in... it's currently 6 in x 12 in x 12 in and we barely fit everything in. We actually have a "top 10" list of engineering slogans on the back of our team shirts:
If at FIRST you don't succeed... ...use more velcro ...recharge the batteries ...bolt it down tighter ...blame programming (booo... hisssss) ...two words: more power ...try weight loss by DeWalt ...screw it in the OTHER way (The last three are not engineering related) |
our engineers favorite, though they won't admit it:
"If it ain't broke...fix it till it is!!" Seriously, after about five weeks of them messing, the students wanted to institute a "hands off" policy to keep them from ruining it. Oh well. |
Well...another one of ours should be...."Think before you do". This year, while putting come connectors into the aluminum of the base of our robot, come of the kids realized that a major part of the robot had been put on upsidedown, and backwards.
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Really Awesome Creative Engineering?
That's just a guess |
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I THINK THIS GOES WITHOUT SAYING!
I THINK MY NAME SHOULD SPEAK FOR ITSELF ON THIS SUBJECT!
For 6 straight weeks i was anchored down trying to advance on the teachings of the area's of BRUTEFORCE with everybody in my group. so we havn't mad the motto but these come to mind.... -NO DON'T CUT THAT WIRE TIE! -HER, LEMME TRY...... OK 4GET IT, CUT IT OFF! -It's great, now DRILL A WHOLE IN IT! and the occasional MATT FOLEY speach to keep everyone in line. |
Bits some Canadiens might appreciate...
Red Green is the ultimate engineer. I always use the handyman's secret weapon, duct tape, as my primary fastener, at least as a pre-fastener. And if it ain't broke, you're not tryin. Quando Omni Flaunkus Moratati.
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You missed Red's best saying:
"If the women don't find you handsome, they ought to at least find you handy" (I heard someone get high and mighty about watching only public television because it is culterally enriching. So I asked, "Oh, you mean like 'Red Green'?") The glass being twice as large as it needs to be is a good one. Our team was MARGE (Mukwango Area Robotics Generate Excitement) Not really an engineering saying, but one that I saw on a site for home builders and remodelers, "That's not a mistake, it's 'Rustic'." And, of course, "I cut it twice and it's still too short." |
Actually I've seen a few different sayings over the years when it come to engineering.
Mechanical: A person really only needs 2 tools: Duct Tape and WD40.....If it doesn't move - spray it and if it moves - Tape it! And the ever popular "If it don't fit - force it and if it breaks it needed to be replaced anyway! Software: That's not a bug....it's a feature! |
I got one
:cool: "If it's broken solder it if its not broken solder it anyway" The kid that thought that up liked solder alot.!:D |
"The belt sander is your friend"
"Friends don't let friends use setscrews" On the subject of pnematics: Team member 1 "I think we bet the piston in that last match and we're leaking out of the compressor valve" Team member 2 "Find me a hammer and a vice" On the subject of intricate drive train parts: Team member 1 "Whats the dimesion tolerence on this part?" Team member 2 "oh, about 1/4 of an inch or so, just use your thumbnail instead of those pesky mics" -Andy A. Edit: spelling, grammer |
Our physics teacher has this sign hanging in his room:
What's black, sticky, and holds the universe together? Duct Tape. |
"sharp things hurt"
"pee before you drill" "sleep before you saw" "swear before you cry" |
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
"That's not a flaw - it's a feature" Oh and Jeremy - the saying in Basler's room is "what's dark on one side, light on the other and holds the universe together? Duct tape!" - I'm telling Basler you got it wrong! :D - Katie |
In 2000 we built the robot that lowered a scissorjack to raise itself up and then could strafe side to side on the ramp to block opponents. The scissorjack was lowered by a screw being driven by the van-door motor. The plastic nut provided by Small parts to fit the screw was no strong and one of the seniors descided to retract the jack to far and crushed the nut the first time we tested it. After he realized he crushed the nut he asked what the problem was because he had done us a favor. Lets just say he did us a lot of "favors" that year.
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Measure it with a micrometer, mark it with chalk, and cut it with an axe.
This is not an exact science. |
If you're going to do it, do it right.
Simple may win. Ugly may win. (But not if it's "uglier than Warren's brother".) Don't build to tolerance! I'm not so sure about the half-full glass...I mean, you could argue that the top half of the glass is wasted material but you could also argue that the extra space provides you with a nice margin of error and safety factor (allows more water to be added, and makes it less likely to spill the water already present). -Ian Mackenzie Woburn Robotics http://www.team188.com |
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"Duct tape is like the Force - it has a dark side and a light side and it holds the universe together." -Jeremy :D |
Our team's official slogan from last year;
"Measure once, cut three times, and go buy another peice." And there are some Murphy's Law of Engineering.... You will never find tools you are looking for; you will always find them when you are done with work and about to head home. You will look all over the place for the parts or tool you saw few second ago; you will, however, never notice that it's sitting right under your butt. You try to "field fix" a broken parts; it will take you a whole day to realise that you should've just went to the machine shop. When everything is going all right, people will complement you; it only means that something will awfully go wrong the next moment. It often takes a entire crew of engineers to figure a fancy way to solve a problem; it often takes one infant to come in to his daddy's room to point out a really obious (and much more sophisticated) solution. Also, my signature...(Not exactly a slogan tho:p) |
Let us not forget that the missing tool is always in the last place you look.
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you're all great!
I just read the new posts in this thread and I have to admit:
You guys totally made my day and cracked me up, thx... Keep in touch guys, so long, Phil |
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The Missing tool is always in the last place you look, because you stop looking when you find it. |
If a tool is missing, and no one ever looks for it, is it lost?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- BTW - I posted this after the message below me, so it's a response to the "Why would you keep looking post" ____________________________________________ People in auto repair know this one: This bolt won't come out, someone hand me the BlueWrench! |
Which implies..."Why would you keep looking?!?"
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blue wrench is the torch
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Take a Torch, and heat it up. Then let it cool. The expansion of the metals (Nut and bolt) forces the nut to become slightly larger, allowing greater ease in removing the formally stuck bolt, when they cool, because the bolt will contract to it's (almost) orginal size. This is where experiance comes into play, as I said, I've never done it, so I have not idea whether the bolt is usuable at this point, or if it's just junk. This is usually used when removing exhaust systems, so all the hardware is easily replaceable. |
ohhhhhhh, i got another!
"IN ORDER TO SUCCESSFULLY FINISH ANY TASK MULTIPLY IT 10X!!!"
Even when i do use this slogan i manage to get myeself into a rut i can't get out of! |
To correct the earlier post so more people can get it.
"Hand me the blue tip wrench." and yes, being part owner of a Merlin Muffler & Brake, I hear that a lot in the muffler business. BTW most often the torch is used to just cut stuff away. Whenever possible, (On hardware outside) never reuse, always replace. |
if it aint broke fix it or if it dont fit get a bigger Hammer
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Old saying:
- "ALWAYS have a 'Plan B' in your back pocket..." MY variant: - "You always need a 'Plan B', AND enough time reserved to execute it!" (This implies a known, FIXED deadline for Plan A's success, at which time you must start Plan B. If you have insufficient resources to do both in parallel, this implies a forced abandonment of Plan A.) - Keith |
Hear I go with my favorite sayings:
From battlebots and this is the truth: Set screws suck!!!:) From my physics teacher: Close enough. Funny about the hammers talk hear is what my engineer said last year: I don't want you hitting the frame anymore with a hammer unless you tell me. |
Our robot last had some, err...issues. Of course, the best way to fix this is hammers, and we had the perfect one to do this.
Ths hammer is about the length from the tip of your elbow to the end of your middle finger. Notice the curved handle? That"s generally a feature of axes because it allows for more force at the cost of accuracy. Perfect for robots... |
red + black = fire
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I've used hammers identicle to that on the job site. But i didn't think it was big enough:rolleyes:
- Hey, my slogen comes from the jobsite as well....*C TITLE* |
cut first, then measure
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Nasa
My personal favorite, which originated in Nasa
If it works then it dosen't have enough gadgets |
I heard this my second year on the team:
" Look at the screw from the nuts perspective" - Chris Carnavale |
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If precision does not work, use force.
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And my all time favorite...
Engineering is the art of molding materials we do not entirely understand, into shapes we cannot really analyze, to withstand forces we cannot really assess, such that the public at large is unaware of the extent of our ignorance.
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We just have KISS
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Hear is another one: Make sure the robot doesn't roll off the table.
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A couple of acronyms that aren"t really slogans, but are used alot during design...
When we"re drawing a potential design on one of the boards, we explain it to everyone as we"re drawing. This leads to some drawings that don"t look quite right, and are then headed be the ubiquitous NTS (not to scale.) Once someone finshes their picture, they finally stop to look at it and decide to also add the letters POS next to NTS. P.S. We also write POS on most prototypes because it"s very fitting. |
"for every complex system that fails there exists a simpler system that works"
my prof that i started with in FIRST painted this on a huge sign which now hangs in my lab, it will be with the 31ers forever and as woodie told us all: "set screws inhale audibly" asher |
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Which doesn't entirely fit with the "Stress Engineer's Motto": When in Doubt Make it Stout From Something You know About I heard it from Bob Best, I have no clue where he got it from... |
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The "set screws inhale audibly" quote has been around longer then I've been in FIRST, and far longer then Battlebots has been around. It used to be quite common for robot's to break their hubs in the middle of a match, ussually do to set screws. The robots would sit on the feild with the motors full blast and going nowhere. I haven't seen this happen in quite awhile.
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"the persuader"
"if it doesn't fit, use the persuader. if it breaks, it needed to be fixed anyway" "noooooo....i cut it twice and it's *still* too short!" |
"I can't program a limit switch if I don't have a freaking limit switch"
"It's hard to wire a robot without wire" "Being awake for 42 hours only makes power tools more fun!" "If that could break it, it needed fixing anyway" (after I stressed-tessed our scissor lift and snapped the main support in half). "Software can't grind out a gearbox!" "Just guess" "So the weapons go through the treads, right?" "Umm... is it supposed to only be able to turn?" "Close enough" |
"The hardest part about building the robot is figuring out what to build"
"Hmmm... it looks BETTER crooked" "The wrong way is the right way" (in reference to previous quote) I'll think of some more... |
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Robot Wars was conceived in 1992 by Marc Thorpe. For money he partnered with Profile Records for cash, and the first game was in the **US**, in 1994. You can read his version of the story at: - http://www.marcthorpe.com/robot.html However, due to a settlement with his old partners, it doesn't tell the WHOLE story... According to the online histories (many of which are now severely edited), many people felt, Profile "stole it from him". The combatants supported Marc and boycotted Profile's events. Profile then took it to the UK in 1997, and invited US competitors to come THERE. (I actually received an invitation myself back then to make one for Profile. No way.) Everyone in the US still said "no". Profile then ran it with UK participants. Lawsuits happened both ways, to block Marc from starting a second contest, and to sue Profile for royalties. VERY messy. Marc was driven to bankruptcy... Eventually the lawsuits were finished, and Marc moved on, but is no longer involved with Robot Wars. He FINALLY became free of all of the litigation THIS YEAR, so we may soon see more of Marc's concepts. Here's a more complete timeline for Robot Wars, BattleBots, Robotica, Bot Bash, etc...: - http://www.robotcombat.com/history.html It is a FASCINATING read... It would be nice to see the FIRST contest included, but this history is "geared" ;) more toward the "mayhem/gladiator" variety of robotic battle. The original FIRST game was in 1992 with Maize Craze: - http://www.usfirst.org/robotics/abr_art1.htm BTW... They've removed the rules for all the old games. If anyone has a URL of archives of the old FIRST games and rules, please email me directly with it. Thanks! Bottom line: FIRST can claim actual contests before both Robot Wars and BattleBots. Now as to FIRST history, FIRST is NOT the original "robotics contest". Woodie Flowers was working at MIT and created the MIT 2.70 "Introduction to Design" class and contest, which involved robotic battle back in the 1980's. I believe it was a 12 or 15 week class. In 1987 Michael B. Parker at MIT made MIT 6.270, "the six week answer" to the 2.70 class. - http://web.mit.edu/6.270/www/about/history.html MIT 2.70 evolved into other classes around 1997, while MIT 6.270 is still around. The design for the Lego Mindstorm RCX brick comes from that series of classes! Other Universities have since copied the format. I think of FIRST as the MUCH larger "industrial version" ;) of the 6.270 class. Automotive scale, vs LEGO scale... I'm let to believe Woodie and Dean got together and jointly conceived this contest around 1990 or so, but don't have the documentation on that just yet. Any way you look at it though, this type of robot contest significantly predates the gladiator types. - Keith |
Not quite engineering, and not quite a slogan, but my Computer Science teacher said this on the first day of class.
"The purpose of commenting is that if you get fired, or hit by a bus, someone else can finish your program!" :eek: |
More slogans
"We'll be back"
Next year. "Today is a good day to die" Your last event of the season and you're going all out, finally. #%#%#%#% the batteries, #%#%#%#% the motors, ahead full ramming speed! "But I just fixed it!" It broke again, again and again. Even after testing, but it won't work right in competition. "I'd rather have a bot in front of me than a frontal lobotomy." I plagiarized that one ;) "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder." I'd rather have a ugly robot that worked really well, than a beautiful bot that couldn't do diddly squat. Has anybody got a beautiful bot that worked really good? "What you see is what you get." I've had to work with somebody else's ugly code, not a fun thing to do. If you work for me and don't produce clean, modular code easy to read with comments as required, you'll be fired. |
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"The purpose of documentation is so that you know what the heck you were thinking when you are forced pick it up again a year or more later to either fix or upgrade it!" Trust me, in industry if you aren't meticulous in your commenting, it can come back to haunt you, sometimes years later. It's more than slightly embarrassing to be staring at your own design two years later trying to get to where your own head was at 3 AM that fateful "night before deadline" when you, cranked up on caffeine and desperately trying to get the darn thing out the door had some epiphany of insight. You can even remember thinking "Oh heck, this is really cool, non-obvious, it works, and (fateful last words) I'll just get around to documenting it sometime next week when I have "more time"... :) The only thing worse is having your boss standing by your side waiting for your explanation of the design during this entire process... :D SO... "Document it like you know you're going to die next week, yet still care about it surviving." Or, another point of view: "Design and document it so OTHERS can understand it later, or you'll be passed over for promotion because now you're the ONLY person in the company ABLE to maintain it." - Keith |
"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools"
- Douglas Adams That's one of my favorite Douglas Adams quotes. And boy...does that relate to our team :D |
I saw this in a post on another forum
when building a robot: "cheap fast or good, pick 2" "Better is the enemy of good enough" (it it works fine, dont try to make it better) "90% of the work is done by 10% of the team" -Alan Troshan, team 522 machinist "It aint broke, it just lacks duct tape" -Jim and Tim, Duct Tape Pros From Timberlane Team meetings: "That PVC goal pip is NOT a lightsaber" "No you are NOT a jedi" "It aint broke, it just lacks duct tape" -Jim and Tim, Duct Tape Pros |
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Trust me. You don't want to be in that situation. And it hasn't happen to me, but I have witnessed the "Your too vital at what you do" to be promoted fallout. How about we amend it to: "Comment just because you don't want to be the guy working on the code. You want to be the guy developing new exciting projects, not changing exisiting code. |
No, You CAN NOT HOLD THE STICK BACKWARDS! It won't work right. I don't care what you think feels good. You'll forget which way is forward, let alone left and right! The program isn't going to be completely redone just because you think that way feels good. They're ergonomically designed, for crying out loud! Are your hands on backwards? NO! Then don't hold the stick backwards. And wear your glasses, we can't afford another bit like when Dave neglected to tell us that he was blind.
-Conversation between me and Jay, our driver for the day, as to why I wasn't going to have Steve, our programmer, program the robot again with "reverse left-right one stick aircraft-style drive" just so Jay could feel better. |
You got it...
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I know I don't want to be the one forced to hang around in "maintenance mode" when a new project challenge shows up at the office and it's up for grabs. My secret: I comment the heck out of everything I do just so any junior member can take charge of it, freeing me for better things. :) The ones that "program for job security" are the ones that end up never getting a promotion. but hey, they got what they wanted! :D My quote: "Anyone that programs for job security may suddenly find they got their wish... at the expense of advancement..." - Keith |
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As a software engineer for over 20 years, I think I'm safe in saying that this is an engineering slogan. Variations on this slogan have been around since the early days of computing. I suspect that even Charles Babbage, and certainly those working with him or studying his work, uttered similar words. The refinements presented here are great! |
I didn't make it do THAT! D:
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Among the favorites that we used in the build cycle
"If it was easy, I would have done it" (Usually used when directing a student towards a project that has no clear answer yet) "Its OK, if you mess it up you just get to do it again" "We'll fix that in programming" "Sissor lifts suck" And from my first year in this.. "why did they give us all these bearings?" Hope everyone is raising enough money. later |
When considering adding another motor
Oh yeah, I almost forgot... Last year, people kept suggesting adding more motors, actuators, or complex mechanisms simply to make things go down. I kept chanting this over and over in response until the students finally started finishing the phrase with me:
"Remember: Gravity is your friend... USE it.." :D - Keith |
We didnt break it... We modified it.
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"It's not a flaw ... it's a design feature!" - Katie |
...Never time to do it right, but always time to do it over ...
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Here are a couple of quotes that my old team used to use back in 1997 when we had an Engineer (who helped us on his free time and was our only engineer) was on the team. He had these quotes:
"It is better to look Good than to be Good" and "It came to me in a stroke of mediocrity" -Grant McStay The team slogan also became "It's all Grant's fault" but that was mostly a team joke. |
It doesn't matter, we'll work that out later
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"If it aint broke, don't fix it" and just to add a yupper (sp) touch, you cna always end the sentence with an "eh?"
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Tyler,
Unfortunately, only those of us in the upper midwest or Canada know the significance of you reference,eh? |
In a pinch, any tool is a hammer.
In technical documentation, the term for beat it with a hammer is "gently mallotize" Justification for an Engineering Cost Estimate - PDOOMA. |
I shudder to think what PDOOMA means.
Personally, my favorite has always been "Lefty Loosey, Righty Tighty." |
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Oh, and there are always the 7 P's Prior Proper Planning Prevents Pretty Poor Performance :D - Katie |
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- "It's a Brown Number..." - "I generated that answer using PDOOMA numerical data methods." The latter of course sounds impressive. What always amazes me is half the time people simply nod wisely and go on, accepting that as a "scientific reason", because they can't admit they've never heard of "PDOOMA Methodology"... :) However, if they do ask what "PDOOMA" means, you then get to define it with a straight face and enjoy their reaction... :D For those that don't catch it, check at either http://www.acronymsearch.com or http://www.acronymfinder.com. IMO, both acronym sites, along with http://yourdictionary.com are all "must haves" in a good set of "Reference" bookmarks. - Keith |
you only realy ever need 2 things in your tool box, a hammer to seperate things that shouldnt be together and duct tape to put things together that shouldnt be appart.
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"For years I dreamed of becoming an Engineer, and now I are one..."
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Keith,
Our version of that is "All my life I couldn't even spell eng-a-near, now I are one!" Good one, I had almost forgotten. |
"All an enjineer really needs is his hands.. for it is ones hands that that are the tools of the brain"
and anyway, it is ones hands that fabricate ones tools anyway... |
catagorizing
Here is a way to order your files..... (this might be a little bit off)
1.First one 2. New one 3. Newer one 4. Newest one 5. The new newest one 6. The coolest new one 7. The cooler one 8. The one where you are at the point that you are sick of giving it names 9. Fricken a! 10. Gosh Golly darn dang eh? |
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