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KenWittlief 08-02-2006 14:29

Its time for this generation to pick up the slack!
 
Somethings been bothering me since the superbowl, and I just figured out what it is.

Last year for the halftime show they had Paul McCartney

this year, The Rolling Stones.

one song the Stones sang was over 40 years old. I realize this was the 40th superbowl, but to put things into perspective, If they had played 40 year old music at the first superbowl halftime

back it in 1966 - one year before the Hippy-movement summer of love, 3 years before Woodstock - 40 year old music would be from the mid 1920s!

can you fanthom that? Dixieland? rag-time jazz? Flapper music at a halftime football show, with 80,000 people going "yhowza yhowza yhowza its Charleston time!"

Something is not right? has time stood still for the last 40 years?

where is the new music? where are the super stars of music at the superbowl of the 21st century + 6?

Mic Jagger is old enough to be a great-grandfather.

Everyone under 20, its time to pick up the slack. Surely you can come up with something better than greatgrandad-rock for the next superbowl! :ahh:

dlavery 08-02-2006 14:44

Re: Its time for this generation to pick up the slack!
 
One possible explanation is that the current generation really does have some good musical stars, but Jagger and McCartney - even after 40 years - are just THAT GOOD.

There is nothing wrong with the music of the last 15 years. After all, the current musical generation includes Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, and Hansen.


<sigh> OK, maybe not. Even I could not keep a straight face with that one.

-dave

Michelle Celio 08-02-2006 17:34

Re: Its time for this generation to pick up the slack!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KenWittlief
Somethings been bothering me since the superbowl, and I just figured out what it is.

Last year for the halftime show they had Paul McCartney

this year, The Rolling Stones.

one song the Stones sang was over 40 years old. I realize this was the 40th superbowl, but to put things into perspective, If they had played 40 year old music at the first superbowl halftime

back it in 1966 - one year before the Hippy-movement summer of love, 3 years before Woodstock - 40 year old music would be from the mid 1920s!

can you fanthom that? Dixieland? rag-time jazz? Flapper music at a halftime football show, with 80,000 people going "yhowza yhowza yhowza its Charleston time!"

Something is not right? has time stood still for the last 40 years?

where is the new music? where are the super stars of music at the superbowl of the 21st century + 6?

Mic Jagger is old enough to be a great-grandfather.

Everyone under 20, its time to pick up the slack. Surely you can come up with something better than greatgrandad-rock for the next superbowl! :ahh:


Maybe it's becuase of the whole Janet Jackson//Justin Timberlake ordeal a few years back?

artdutra04 08-02-2006 17:48

Re: Its time for this generation to pick up the slack!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KenWittlief
Everyone under 20, its time to pick up the slack. Surely you can come up with something better than greatgrandad-rock for the next superbowl! :ahh:

Good music never dies. :D

Capt.ArD 08-02-2006 18:20

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amen to that. many people still listen to classic rock (me being one of them). and Superbowl viewers still include people from the 60's and 70's, who do not like the more modern music. the superbowl wants the most viewers possible, so they pick a band that everyone will love.

and really, i saw the halftime show 2 years ago, and even without the whole jackson ordeal, it was still a terrible show. the Stones rocked it hands down. fogeys and all.

Katie Reynolds 08-02-2006 20:40

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The last good Superbowl halftime show was during XXXV ... Aerosmith, Mary J. Blige, NSYNC, Britany Spears ... even if you didn't like some of the artists/bands individually, they were amazing together.

Ever since then, I've turned the halftime show off after about 3 minutes.

Andrew Blair 08-02-2006 21:17

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I would have to say that the reason that 40 year old music is played is because the main audience of the Superbowl are familiar with this time period. Lets face it, most people older than 30 (as most people watching TV are) are not especially content with the pop movement. So your choices are 40, 30 year old, or new music (We'll skip that whole 80-90's mess ;) ) So we market to the main audience. Unfortunately, there are a few unexpected consequences to using old musicians...


Okay, nobody kill me here, my personal opinion (And I like the Rolling Stones). Maybe somebody else noticed this.

Jagger, and half the rest of the band looked like they might die, right there, if you cheered too loud. Thats what drugs, sex and rock&roll do kids...

Elgin Clock 08-02-2006 21:28

Re: Its time for this generation to pick up the slack!
 
I'm sure I'm not alone when I say the last Superbowl half-time show I actually remembered was the Janet/Justin one.

But, more importantly, the last half-time show I actually enjoyed was in 2002, when U2 did their tribute to America after the events of 9-11.

U2 rocked, and made a lasting impression in my mind as far as performers.

Bring back U2 to the Superbowl!!! They never get old (music wise), and their music is always great, whether it be a new song, or a classic from The Joshua Tree album.

KenWittlief 08-02-2006 21:35

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the thing that gets me the most is the Stones are so cliche'

it was like everytime you saw Tony Bennett on TV, he ALWAYS started singing "I left my heart in San Fan Cisco....."

they bleeped words out of Mic's lyrics 3 times in the halftime show - I mean, come on, the guy is 63 years old - Isnt it considered rude to bleep a senior citizen, esp when he has been singing the same song for the last 40+ years?

will the Stones still be doing concerts when they are in wheelchairs? Will 18 year old girls still be waving their hands in the air, thinking "he is so sexy!"

(or was the audience told what to do?)

Andrew Blair 08-02-2006 21:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KenWittlief
(or was the audience told what to do?)

I think they gave them the LED flashlights and said "Wave these around and scream".

Unholy 08-02-2006 22:41

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it's not like we have much of a choice when it comes to such a thing as the half-time show for the super bowl, really. Then again, if we were given a choice about who we would TRULY like to see live at the Half time show, ABC wouldn't approve. So damned if we do, and damned if we don't.
...then again, I'm not much of a football fan, so yeah.... heh
-Danny

dez250 08-02-2006 23:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dlavery
...There is nothing wrong with the music of the last 15 years. After all, the current musical generation includes ...Hansen...

-dave

Hey Dave go light on Hansen, Grady might get mad at you... :D :eek: :D


But onto the real topic here, i think that as much as some of todays generation of musicians would not like to admit, there really wouldn't be much without the drive that rock and roll brought about in the 60S and 70S. I personally listen to more "classic rock" than todays "rock" or "other noise". I would prefer to be able to continue to see 40 year old rock bands live than go to a concert to see a guy in a mask screaming incoherent noises ;) . As for the halftime show its true to say that what we will be seeing then will be at the choice of the broadcasting executives.

Cody Carey 08-02-2006 23:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Blair

Jagger, and half the rest of the band looked like they might die, right there, if you cheered too loud. Thats what drugs, sex and rock&roll do kids...

OK, Half of the band looked like they were dead, and your comment makes no sense because last year they had Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake. :)
But we don't have to think about them right now... I'm just thinking about how grateful I am that the rolling stones didn't have a wardrobe malfunction ! :yikes:

Bemis 08-02-2006 23:15

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Old music never does die. I say lets put an orchestra up there playing Bach. Go farther backward in time! Then maybe everyone would stay calm, and not bash the judges/officials/etc for just doing their jobs. I think we should all pass gracious professionalism off to the football fans.

Unholy 08-02-2006 23:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bemis
Old music never does die. I say lets put an orchestra up there playing Bach. Go farther backward in time! Then maybe everyone would stay calm, and not bash the judges/officials/etc for just doing their jobs. I think we should all pass gracious professionalism off to the football fans.

Sir, that is BRILLIANT. Absolutely BRILLIANT!
...but I'd have to go with Vivaldi
(that's just me)
-Danny

mechanicalbrain 08-02-2006 23:30

Re: Its time for this generation to pick up the slack!
 
We do have quite a few good musical performers, my personal being Blue Man Group (musical geniuses). But while not everyone is a Dixie fan certain music does stay with us through the ages, everyone knows who Mozart or Louis Armstrong are. While they don't show up at super bowl you would be hard pressed to not find them in hosts of videos. Rolling stones inspire strong emotion in the public, an easy pick.
Quote:

Originally Posted by KenWittlief
Will 18 year old girls still be waving their hands in the air, thinking "he is so sexy!"

Ummm I love his music but he's not famous because of his good looks.

boxtransformer 09-02-2006 13:55

Re: Its time for this generation to pick up the slack!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KenWittlief
Mic Jagger is old enough to be a great-grandfather.

you spelled mick jagger wrong

JVGazeley 09-02-2006 14:02

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Well I enjoyed them... even if it was 1 in the morning.

KenWittlief 09-02-2006 14:03

Re: Its time for this generation to pick up the slack!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boxtransformer
you spelled mick jagger wrong

Mic is his nic-name :^)

IraJason 10-02-2006 00:12

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I have been to two Stones concerts, and I thought that it was hilarious how when they showed the crowd, it was a whole lot of 20 year old girls... not the usual Rolling Stones fan, who is in at least his middle to late 40s.

I must admit that 4 out of the six cd changers in my car are devoted to Rolling Stones CD (my dad is a nut, and he passed that honor down to me), and I must say that their performance on TV during the super bowl didn't do them justice. You need to actually be there, with a twenty-foot string of speakers about 50 ft from your face... its face melting good and guaranteed to make you partially deaf for at least the rest of the night.

That and McCartney's proformance last year was amazing... especially if you were there... :cool: Go E. A. G. L. E. S. EAGLES! (even if they sucked this year)
Not that I don't like more current music, but the Stones are still one of the best classic rock bands ever, even with Kieth Richards being a half-dead zombie and all of them old enough to be grandparents. They can still rock a hard show...

Jeff Rodriguez 10-02-2006 00:34

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It's really quite simple.
During the 60s and 70s who was recording and distributing the music? There were many small record labels that many of the 'great rockers' came from. There were also small radio stations around the country that played what their listeners wanted to hear.
Now, all the music labels either have merged with one another, or are part of one big association. And the radio stations are a joke. Try to find two in your area that are not owned by Clearchannel. There isn't as much freedom in the music industry today.
There is very good music being made today, but, in most cases, you have to go find it. It's not going to find you.

Enter podcasting. To steal from Outback Steakhouse, 'No Rules, Just Right'. Podcasters can play any artist that lets them. Podcasters can play any and all genres they want to. Podcasters can go for any length they want to. Podcasters do not have a boss to listen to. I believe that podcasting will change modern radio.

By the way, I don't listen to the radio at all. I make a CD three or four times a week with all my podcasts that I listen to in the car.

DCA Fan 10-02-2006 03:50

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Regarding last years' ordeal, I suppose they figured that Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction didn't offend enough people, so if Mick Jagger had a wardrobe malfunction, it would offend everyone.

Kidding.

More seriously, I think it's more that they have set a legacy in music, that they will live on beyond their years. I personally feel the "stars" of today seem to lack true talent as those of the past are, usually basing their "talent" on looks and commercialism.

IraJason 10-02-2006 04:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DCA Fan
Regarding last years' ordeal, I suppose they figured that Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction didn't offend enough people, so if Mick Jagger had a wardrobe malfunction, it would offend everyone.

Kidding.

More seriously, I think it's more that they have set a legacy in music, that they will live on beyond their years. I personally feel the "stars" of today seem to lack true talent as those of the past are, usually basing their "talent" on looks and commercialism.

I have to agree with you. If you look at the Stones now, even though they are burnt out on whatever drugs they had been taking in the past and are into their 60s now, they are still as popular as ever before. They still come out with new CDs and people buy them. For just some reason, I don't see many of todays "stars" achieving that kind of timelessness.

They still can put on a great show, and some people can't appreciate that it was "just a bunch of old guys," as a few people in my chem class put it. I've been to two of their shows recently, and I must say, they sound much better live and in person then they do on TV and CDs, even now. During the superbowl, the music wasn't loud enough compared to Mick Jagger's voice, so it wasn't the best example, but I'd rather see someone who is one of the greats in music then one of todays "stars" who may be forgotten in a few years.

Taylor 10-02-2006 07:20

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Four thoughts:
1. Look at the ticket sales from the past several years, look at who's leading the box office. Rolling Stones, U2, Aerosmith, Paul McCartney, these are the guys people pay big money to see live. Sure, they don't have a current BIG hit, but as far as live performances go, big hits are fleeting and may not translate to the stage well.
2. I thought McCartney was absolutely astonishingly amazing last year, and I feel sad that so many people instantly forgot his performance.
3. I thought it was in poor taste to censor Mick's lyrics. If you believe somebody to be objectionable, don't book him.
4. Shame on the folks for trying to jam the Motown performers in the pregame show. It was cool to see everybody up there together, but it seemed forced and last-minute (which it was). The Stones were a good choice, but keep them for a town less musically inclined (like Chicago or New Orleans or Seattle or San Fransisco :p )


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