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Winter War Zone/UTC Scrimmage February 18
Team 176 is hosting the annual Winter War Zone (UTC Scrimmage) on February 18, from 9:00-4:00 in Suffield, CT. Team 230 will be webcasting this event. :)
Could all teams attending the scrimmage please reply here? I'm trying to form a list since I couldn't find one on 176's site... More information here: http://nefirst.org/community/teams/176ScrimmagePage See everyone in a week or so! ;) |
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177 will be there.
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This event is now known as the Winter War Zone, and there will be a NEMO meeting at it - all mentors are invited to attend, please e-mail me and I will send further details.
looking forward to seeing everyone in Suffield! |
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Team 0000 will be there! I'm really excited to see the first-run of this game. Stop by and say hi!
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RAGE Team 173 will be in attendance... hopefully... assuming we have a robot finished...
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It's too soon......... :ahh: ....we're not ready...........but Rosie will be there. On time and under budget. As usual.
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Hey Jess, I'll be there. You better say hi to me, since I haven't seen you in like.. forever.
I'll be there takin' vid for my team for analysis of match structure, and robot designs. Yes, that's right; pre-ship scouting at it's finest. |
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571 is planning on attending...whether or not we will have a completed robot is another question altogether!
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195 will be there....if we finish!
New rule definitions are no fun :rolleyes: |
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I'm pretty sure 228 is going.
Well, at least the team will come. As for the robot, that is another story. ;) Hopefully we'll have our robot there. :cool: |
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195's real robot will be there for the first time ever. :ahh:
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is there anyone on team 176 that has a full list of the teams attending and could please post it here? thanks. :D
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These are the teams that I believe have registered to attend:
88 96 173 175 176 177 178 181 195 228 230 571 716 809 839 999 1027 1058 1071 1099 1124 1350 1373 1524 1740 |
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thaank you!
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Will there be a webcast of this scrimmage?
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Yes team 230 will be webcasting our event. We've had a great turn out so far and we hope to see all of you there! 4 days left and who's done?? :p ACES High sends out all of our thanks to everyone who made this event possible and for all the teams in attendance. We are looking forward to a great day!
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http://www.shsrobotics.org/06/webcast/index.htm
Here is the weblink. We should have a link from the home page- shsrobotics.org Please give us feedback as we are hosting the Webcast for the United Technologies New England Regional during week 2. If we can improve- we will! Special Thanks to 176 for setting this up each year. for those not from the area- this is also a dryrun for FIRST as we are testing an actual FIRST field and the electronics and tonight we actually read the instuctions!!! Making sure the steps all made sence and there was nothing missing. Yes this is a Scrimmage for all aspects of the event and should benefit everyone in FIRST. If you are there, make sure you send a thanks to 176 members and all the FIRST personel in attendance. For those of you trying to finish your robots and in our case working hard to drop a few pounds- I hope you enjoy the webcast! |
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Team 38 will be there again this year!!!
*yes we are still working on the bot at the moment but it will be up and running =D |
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I have yet to go to sleep! A few of our team members stayed up all night in order to get it running for today! Yes, we had to do a few things that need to be changed before ship, but it DOES work! It just looks iffy...
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I must say 195 really wasn't that ghetto a bot... They just all though it was.
Also, does anyone by any random chance(aka I am looking toward 230 a lot on this one) have any of the footage saved to anything that we might be able to get some bits and pieces? Especially the opening ceremonies. |
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Hopefully I can get a bunch of the pictures I took up soon[er]. :p |
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Since Winter War Zone was probably the Largest 2006 competition to date, did you guys notice anything intresting about this year's game? Strategies that were most effective, generally what worked/didn't work, fun factor on a scale of 0-1 (yes it's binary, and its either Fun, or Not Fun), ect.
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Tipping Over: The one thing which struck me as surprising was the number of robots that tipped over. At least every match it seemed as if some robot had either tipped backwards while trying to score in the side goals or while trying to get on the ramp. Getting on the ramp: Getting on the ramp is not a very easy task. For a lot of teams, once they are on the ramp, they cannot get off or they will tip over. Many of the teams with six wheel drive and/or shooters high up had a very difficult time attempting to get onto the ramp. Ball Hoppers and Storage: Also, even though it was just a scrimmage, many of the teams could not store that many balls inside their robot. About half of the teams there could not store more than 10 or so balls in their robots. Balls are everywhere: To the teams who can only load from human players, good luck. After the second period of the game, about 2/3 of all the balls on the field were loose on the ground. Many of these came from failed scoring attempts and from human players missing the side goals. However, if your team has an effective ball gatherer from the floor, you will be able to amass large numbers of balls relatively easily. N.E.R.D.s are everywhere! Grady wasn't kidding when he said the N.E.R.D. population was about to skyrocket! There are more N.E.R.D.s now than you can can shake a stick at! :p |
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First off, thanks to Team 176 for putting this scrimmage on and to Team 230 for webcasting it. It was great for those teams who did not have a scrimmage in their area to see some great teams compete in this year's game.
I have a question about scoring. Was scoring truly "real-time?" Was the score displayed somewhere for alliance members to see easily? Was the scoring via the cameras and auto counters as is in the competition manual, or were "human counters" necessary? Also, now that folks have seen this game played, what do you think? Thanks. |
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From my un-technical perspective - it was hard for me to figure out who was winning, scoring-wise (but then, it usually takes me a while to figure out the game so my comments may not be valid). Spectators were confused. The periods are very short and I think it took teams a while to catch on - beware of being offsides. It seemed like a lot of balls were being shot overtop of the goals. A lot of tipping since the center of gravity is high on a lot of these robots, like was mentioned before, and without having an arm for leverage once the robots were overturned they couldn't right themselves. Not much accomplished in the autonomous mode, but that could change as robots are perfected in the coming days. Lots of stray balls going outside the playing field, including a whole bunch of them being shot at us in the bleachers at one point, mid-day (Stu from Buzz has it on video and it would be great to post on CD). Thankfully they were poofballs and no one was injured.
This was a great day, as always, allowing us the opportunity to see the game played out, to work on our robots with other teams' assistance, to get NEMs together to talk about our concerns, and to meet new friends and greet old ones! Thanks to 176, 230, Andy and all the folks from FIRST, etc. who put on another great scrimmage! |
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There was not a real time display of the score. I don't know if it was because there isn't going to be one,or FIRST was focusing on getting the field working. I'd say that they were making sure the field was fully working, which it was. To my knowledge there was only one interruption during game play. For some reason the field didn't choose who won autonomous mode, and it froze up. Other than that, the field seemed to do well. We did start to rely on the HPs counting the number of balls they threw. Autonomous. Car Nack seemed to be right. That percentage will be even higher during elimination rounds, near 90%. Defense. Is very easy. Unless a robot plants itself down, which most don't, they will be defendable. You thought 2002 was a game for strong drive trains? You haven't seen nothin'. Most teams mounted their shooters fairly low, which makes it easy to block shots. Center goal. If a robot can score 4 or 5 balls in the center goal while some one is playing defense on them, pick them. If that same team can score in either the center goal, or the corner goals with their load of balls, pick them. Ramp. While most teams have the ability to climb the ramp, if you play any sort of defense on them, they'll either tip over or not get on the ramp at all. And I don't mean tip over in a bad way, just that robots tip over easily when on the incline. Most robots that I saw tip weren't tipped on purpose. Overall the matches were played pretty clean. Rough, but clean. Congratulations FIRST for making an awesome game. I'm looking forward to regional competition. |
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From a scouting perspective this game seemed hard. While autonomous modes are easy enogh to record, figuring out teams strategies is more complicated because of the Offensive/Defensive periods. I noticed that in the final rounds it's challenging to see whether balls are shot from the robots or being thrown from human players on both sides.
On another note the accidental balls flying into the audience makes it pretty exciting. Oh and the periods pass quickly....good communicaion on alliances is essential in this game. |
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned this....
Congratulations to the winning alliance: 173, 716 and the rookie team 1784 from Litchfield, CT! All three robots were extremely strong and will be definite contenders at their regionals. It is also interesting to note that 126 seeded 4th with their 2005 robot. ;) |
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Thanks ya'll. Team #1784 The Litchbots had a famous time. We just have to piece our robot back together for shipping. Thanks again Housatonic, Aces, Rage, you guys are the best!!!!! http://www.aceshigh176.com/e107_plug...lbum=24&pos=42 |
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Seeing what our veterans come up with every year is always exciting, but seeing what the rookies do is even better! Congratulations to the Litchbots and we wish you and all the other rookies the best of luck this season!
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I have a question about the computers that were at the center stations... what was the purpose of them!?!?
i know they were running labview and "counting" but in one match it showed only 2 corner goals + 1 center goal scored but the allaince scored 30+ pts!?!? so were they there just for show or configuration!?! and will they be there at regionals??? |
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Who’s ready for videos!!?!?!?
ME! ME! Team 237 sent out Elgin Clock to record the event this past Saturday. Here is the first batch of videos, and there should be a second batch coming soon! WARNING: Each video is about 20 MBs and the page will take awhile to load. So sit back, grab your favorite build season drink, read your rule book, and be patient for the videos to load. Random Matches (Semis?): http://www.zippyvideos.com/305698015...6/utcscrim1v1/ http://www.zippyvideos.com/243288116...6/utcscrim2v1/ http://www.zippyvideos.com/634260504...6/utcscrim3v1/ Finals: http://www.zippyvideos.com/152156976...crimfinals1v1/ http://www.zippyvideos.com/241393201...crimfinals2v1/ **EDIT: Well I have been told some computers crashed due to the size, whoops.... ya i will post direct download links soon.** |
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The HP computers that are placed under the center players station is what does the counting for the corner and center goals. It is running an NI LabVIEW application that "takes the data being sent from the goals and converts it into a number". The 15" HP monitors, keyboards and mice will not be there during the competition season. The larger silver cases, which were done by Hatch Technologies, are the electronics consoles and are what directly connects the field electronics together, ties the field to the scoring computer, and communicates between your OI's and the Arena controllers. There are a set of each of these on both ends of the field.
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From UTC scrimmage also.. Backbot penalty video.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...4&postcount=31 |
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