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Joe_Widen 12-02-2006 15:59

How fast can your robot shoot?
 
Team 1675 was having some fun Saturday and we loaded a 10 foot tube up with 15 poofballs. We shot them all in about 4 adn a half seconds. Thats are record......whats yours? I'll try to get a video up soon.

Tomasz Bania 12-02-2006 16:13

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
we shot around 4 balls a second (16 balls over 4 seconds). I'm not on our manipulations team, but that's the fastest I saw it go. Mind you that the feeder fed the balls that quickly. On the robot, it can shoot about 10 balls in 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 seconds.

MARS-CJ 12-02-2006 16:20

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
Ours wasn't as fast as yours...

Here's a vid: (also posted in this thread)
http://marsbot.org/files/shooting.wmv

Joe_Widen 12-02-2006 16:24

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
That is definately the neatest looking robot I've seen this year. How did you guys get it to do that. It looks like you had a high torque motor and a surgical tubing rig. That looks really good, except how do you plan to get more balls into the feeder, are you going to bend some aluminum and make it like a slide of some sort?

Team ERV 12-02-2006 18:02

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
wow guys that looks pretty awesome....but does it come under that rule with the projectile?

Donut 12-02-2006 18:28

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
For all our balls to go the same distance, we need ~1/2 second between balls (might be slightly more now, gearing was changed). We figure with constant tracking this is fine though, especially since I don't see us storing 80 balls we need to launch at once.

Nate Laverdure 12-02-2006 19:13

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
Oh, that's an easy question. Ours shoots as fast as the balls can get to the shooter.

Seriously, I'm not sure how many balls it can shoot in whatever time limit. What I do know, though, is that the tangential velocity of the shooting wheels is about 80 mph. The ball gets shot through the wheels at 60 mph (there's some slippage), then it goes through a vertical tube to our turret which slows it to more or less 28 mph.

Tim Arnold 12-02-2006 19:28

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe_Widen
That is definately the neatest looking robot I've seen this year. How did you guys get it to do that. It looks like you had a high torque motor and a surgical tubing rig. That looks really good, except how do you plan to get more balls into the feeder, are you going to bend some aluminum and make it like a slide of some sort?

You guessed right on how it works, but we are planning on using a hopper of sorts (hint: basketball) to allow human loading as well as a small ammount of onboard storage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team ERV
wow guys that looks pretty awesome....but does it come under that rule with the projectile?

I don't know what rule you are talking about in particular, but the only rule we were concened about was about stored energy. This problem was eliminated as the surgical tubing pulls the arm back to the point of lowest energy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate Laverdure
Oh, that's an easy question. Ours shoots as fast as the balls can get to the shooter.

Seriously, I'm not sure how many balls it can shoot in whatever time limit. What I do know, though, is that the tangential velocity of the shooting wheels is about 80 mph. The ball gets shot through the wheels at 60 mph (there's some slippage), then it goes through a vertical tube to our turret which slows it to more or less 28 mph.

That sounds very impressive. I would love to a video of it in action! How long is the delay between balls for accuracy; none?

Joe_Widen 12-02-2006 19:52

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
Our launcher can shoot as fast as we can load them also. Once we get to around the 10th or 11th ball, they start to shoot a bit shorter(the 15th ball we shot in the four second span hit the ground at 26 ft from the shooter). Also its very accurate. Good Luck to everyone and ill try to post some pictures or videos tomorrow.

RebelWithARobot 16-02-2006 11:00

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
i believe we will be firing around 10 balls per second

Elgin Clock 16-02-2006 12:13

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
I'm hoping we shoot balls under the speed limit.
It was spinnin' pretty darn fast the other night. :ahh:

Nita 16-02-2006 15:24

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
I believe that our robot can shoot at least 10 balls per second, but we probably won't be doing that at the competition because well... it is very possible for BAMFR(our robot) to shoot 2 balls at the same time!

irishninja 17-02-2006 17:39

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
on Friday we finally got our spiral integrated with our shooter. WE were pulsing the motors and got a ball per second. I believe that we shot two, waited one, shot two, etc. Id be interested to know a) how accurate that team that shot 15 in 4.5 seconds actually had and b) how much the distance was drastically changed. Loss of energy is not a good thing. Did those balls just flop out? Or did they shoot almost as well as the first one.

natis 17-02-2006 21:05

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
video
Ours is working pretty good and fast!!
check it out!

Joe_Widen 17-02-2006 21:52

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
Ours didnt chage very drastically between the first and 15th ball. The only change was maybe 5 feet so i think were in good shape. Especially since we have an almost fool proof spreadsheet made by out GE mentor. Good Stuff. I dont have it with me so I can't upload it, but it makes robots alot less complex.

M Dawg1319 18-02-2006 17:01

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
You guys do know that there is a velocity limit and from how fast you guys are shooting them you may be in violation. :yikes:

akshar 18-02-2006 18:10

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
10balls in a matter of seconds? just wondering if it was moving less than 39m/s...like the rule states...at quincy, 1568 was maxing around 55m/s, we moved it down to 34m/s, now we have to work out some kinks with the low velocity :(

Elgin Clock 18-02-2006 20:54

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
There is a FIRST measuring system in place for ball velocity testing.

It's basically 2 sets of 2 sensors making a beam, and you shoot through the sensors, and break the beams, and it calculates your speed.

Be ready to be inspected to this criteria, and change your max speed before you even step onto a field to compete.

Just a friendly heads up!

Good luck to all shooting under the speed limit!

Peter Matteson 18-02-2006 21:16

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock
There is a FIRST measuring system in place for ball velocity testing.

It's basically 2 sets of 2 sensors making a beam, and you shoot through the sensors, and break the beams, and it calculates your speed.

Be ready to be inspected to this criteria, and change your max speed before you even step onto a field to compete.

Just a friendly heads up!

Good luck to all shooting under the speed limit!

1. Where did you hear this?

2. Duck hunt gun? Really?

Sgraff_SRHS06 18-02-2006 21:21

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dzdconfusd
1. Where did you hear this?

2. Duck hunt gun? Really?

1. I have no answer for the inspection. The speed limit is in the manual.

2. It means FIRST is playing Nintendo with us.

lil' kim 18-02-2006 21:26

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
were flirting with legal on velocity but we took it to a basketball game at our school tonight and shot freethrows and it works really well.

Joe_Widen 26-02-2006 19:42

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
Yeh i think our team is just a bit over max speed so we'll have to talk to the programmers. We're using a fatty cim (minibike) at full speed with no reductions. We're using nylon gears and chain, and there seems to be no loss of speed everytime we shoot. So any ideas on what to do?

Eldarion 26-02-2006 20:54

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
Does this thread imply "How fast are you able to shoot the balls", or is it "How fast are you able to shoot the balls accurately and reliably"?

If the former, 10 balls in a few seconds.

If the latter, 10 balls in 8 seconds. :)

Peter Matteson 27-02-2006 07:32

Re: How fast can your robot shoot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe_Widen
Yeh i think our team is just a bit over max speed so we'll have to talk to the programmers. We're using a fatty cim (minibike) at full speed with no reductions. We're using nylon gears and chain, and there seems to be no loss of speed everytime we shoot. So any ideas on what to do?

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