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Alex Cormier 24-02-2006 20:49
2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
That's right folks, i am going to start a Championships Invitational League.
I will send out the invites (elites of FF) and try to get 20 or so. So if ya don't get a invite sorry. If i sent ya a PM that goes as your invite.

Update: I will reserve 3 spots for people who have won 2 or more regional leagues or extrodinary results in the FF Regional Leagues this year.

New change to scoring:Highest Rookie Seed, Unlisted Previous Award, Honorable Chairmans, WFA, W/L/T

Divisional Play:
20....1st seed
12....2nd and 3rd seed
6......4th through 8th
3......9th through 12th
2......12th through 16th

4......Quarter finalists
10.....Semifinalists
20.....Finalists
30.....Winners

15.....Highest Rookie seed

Overall:
85.....Chairmans
75.....Winners
55.....Engineering Inspiration Award
50.....Honorable Chairmans Mentions

40......Woodie Flowers
25.....Rookie All-Star
20.....Rookie Inspiration


4......Win(s)
-4.....Loss(es)
2......Tie(s)

10....Any unpreviously listed Award


also, PM and give me feedback on the scoring.


The List So Far:
1. Alex Cormier
2. Billfred
3. Ed Patterson
4. Alex Pelan
5. Dan Swando
6. Lisa Perez
7. Steve Howland
8. T. Hoffman
9. Jeff Rodriguez
10. Arefin Bari
11. Conor Ryan
12. Levin
13. Corey Balint
14.
15.
16.

17-20 the new "elites of the FF leagues"

Koko Ed 24-02-2006 20:54
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Cormier
That's right folks, i am goign to start a Championships Invitational League.
I will send out the invites and try to get 20 or so. So if ya don't get a invite sorry.


Divisional Play:
20....1st seed
12....2nd and 3rd seed
6......4th through 8th
3......9th through 12th
2......12th through 16th

4......Quarter finalists
10.....Semifinalists
20.....Finalists
30.....Winners

Overall:
85.....Chairmans
75.....Winners
55.....Engineering Inspiration Award

25.....Rookie All-Star
20.....Rooke Inspiration
15......Woodie Flowers

2......Win(s)
-2.....Loss(es)
1......Tie(s)
10.......Highest score / Highest Rookie Seed

also, PM and give me feedback on the scoring.
you kill me

Alex Cormier 24-02-2006 21:43
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
I just received a comment, should the Rookie All-Star move to Divisional or Overall?

edit/ changed to approbate.

now next change since Chairmans is so important, should the honorable mentions get points too??

Arefin Bari 24-02-2006 22:16
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Cormier
I just received a comment, should the Rookie All-Star move to Divisional or Overall?

edit/ changed to approbate.

now next change since Chairmans is so important, should the honorable mentions get points too??
Since the chairmans award is so important, the honorable mentions should get points too. I personally think honorable mentions should get 70 points.

Alex Cormier 24-02-2006 22:17
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arefin Bari
Since the chairmans award is so important, the honorable mentions should get points too. I personally think honorable mentions should get 70 points.
any other thoughts on how many points they should get?

Koko Ed 24-02-2006 22:19
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Cormier
any other thoughts on how many points they should get?
50

Jeff Rodriguez 24-02-2006 22:20
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed
50
Ditto

Alex Cormier 24-02-2006 22:28
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
done.

Billfred 24-02-2006 22:30
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed
50
Thirdified.

Freddy Schurr 24-02-2006 22:46
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
I would like to partake within this competition, if I may

Levin571 24-02-2006 22:53
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Anyone else think the woody flowers award should be more like 20-25 points cause it is such a prestigious and honourable award?


I am also in for the competition

Koko Ed 24-02-2006 22:56
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Levin571
Anyone else think the woody flowers award should be more like 20-25 points cause it is such a prestigious and honourable award?


I am also in for the competition
WFA should be around 40 or 50 points.

Jeff Rodriguez 24-02-2006 23:05
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Levin571
Anyone else think the woody flowers award should be more like 20-25 points cause it is such a prestigious and honourable award?
Do we pick individuals for the WFA or the team that the WFA will come from?

Alex Cormier 24-02-2006 23:06
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Update: I will reserve 3 spots for people who have won 2 or more regional leagues or extrodinary results in the FF Regional Leagues this year.

Koko Ed 24-02-2006 23:08
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ogre
Sorry, I'm a noob but, do we pick individuals for the WFA or the team that the WFA will come from?
The team.

Corey Balint 25-02-2006 10:04
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Personally, i feel that Chairmans and WFA shouldnt be that high a point score. I think the name of the game should be the teams that are winning the matches, id knock down the point scores of Chairmans to about 15 and WFA to about 5.

Levin571 25-02-2006 10:23
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
In the words of Alex Cormier "first is about charimans not winning the comp"

Corey Balint 25-02-2006 10:44
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
But, Fantasy FIRST is about winning.

Alex Cormier 25-02-2006 15:21
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corey Balint
Personally, i feel that Chairmans and WFA shouldnt be that high a point score. I think the name of the game should be the teams that are winning the matches, id knock down the point scores of Chairmans to about 15 and WFA to about 5.
are you saying make them 15 and 5 or take off 15,5 points?

Corey Balint 25-02-2006 17:12
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Make them that low.

Alex Cormier 25-02-2006 17:15
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corey Balint
Make them that low.
are you going to even join this league?

Koko Ed 25-02-2006 18:19
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corey Balint
Make them that low.
I think it's important to keep FIRST's most important award as the top point getter.
It's help reinforce that the Chairman's award, Engineering Inspiration and Woodie Flowers award are actually important and FIRST is about more than just the robots.
It really is up to us to stand up for these principles so when we sell it to the general public we're not just feeding them some line because if we don't believe it, why should they?

Corey Balint 25-02-2006 19:08
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Yeah Alex I guess i am in.

Again though, it is a fantasy league. Fantasy leagues are based on the principle of pure statistics, not involving awards or anything of the like. I obviously do respect the awards and stand up for their principles, but this is a league run by only highly involved FIRST'ers, not the general public. We know what these awards mean enough to respect them.

Jeff Rodriguez 25-02-2006 19:13
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corey Balint
Again though, it is a fantasy league. Fantasy leagues are based on the principle of pure statistics, not involving awards or anything of the like. I obviously do respect the awards and stand up for their principles, but this is a league run by only highly involved FIRST'ers, not the general public.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed
I think it's important to keep FIRST's most important award as the top point getter.
It's help reinforce that the Chairman's award, Engineering Inspiration and Woodie Flowers award are actually important and FIRST is about more than just the robots.
It really is up to us to stand up for these principles so when we sell it to the general public we're not just feeding them some line because if we don't believe it, why should they?
I understand both sides of the argument. They both have their valid points.
I'm going to side with Corey though.
Do football fantasy leagues give bonus points for winning MVP or rookie of the year?
Fantasy leagues are based on performance and statistics.

Koko Ed 25-02-2006 19:14
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corey Balint
Yeah Alex I guess i am in.

Again though, it is a fantasy league. Fantasy leagues are based on the principle of pure statistics, not involving awards or anything of the like. I obviously do respect the awards and stand up for their principles, but this is a league run by only highly involved FIRST'ers, not the general public. We know what these awards mean enough to respect them.
Yeah but there is no more pure statistic than who won what and you should be rewarded as such (this is why I always aim for Chairman's award favs and not HOF teams because they are excluded from those points).

Corey Balint 25-02-2006 19:37
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
The major arguement in any fantasy sport is "Should Awards be rewarded?"

It's obviously no different here. The major point is that the awards that are given out, are based off a group of peoples thoughts and opinions. Not how the player performs, which is the basis of any Fantasy League.

Simply put, with the outside interferences (judges), the league strays away from the performence of the team on the field.

Billfred 25-02-2006 19:54
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corey Balint
The major arguement in any fantasy sport is "Should Awards be rewarded?"

It's obviously no different here. The major point is that the awards that are given out, are based off a group of peoples thoughts and opinions. Not how the player performs, which is the basis of any Fantasy League.

Simply put, with the outside interferences (judges), the league strays away from the performence of the team on the field.
This is true--in most sports, winning the big one is the pinnacle of a team's season. And performance in the areas that count the most get rewarded the most.

In FIRST, however, the areas that count are different. The big one has, for fifteen straight seasons, had absolutely nothing to do with performance on the field. Our Lombardi Trophy, our Stanley Cup, is a clock that goes to the best team in the event at what really counts--changing the culture. To score the league any other way would be, with all apologies to the non-wrestling fans, akin to putting the Intercontinental Championship ahead of the WWE Championship.

Alex Cormier 26-02-2006 00:44
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
The List So Far:
1. Alex Cormier
2. Billfred
3. Ed Patterson
4. Alex Pelan
5. Dan Swando
6. Lisa Perez
7. Steve Howland
8. T. Hoffman
9. Jeff Rodriguez
10. Arefin Bari
11. Conor Ryan
12. Levin
13. Corey Balint
14.Cory
15.
16.

17-20 the new "elites of the FF leagues"

Corey Balint 26-02-2006 01:04
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Billfred
This is true--in most sports, winning the big one is the pinnacle of a team's season. And performance in the areas that count the most get rewarded the most.

In FIRST, however, the areas that count are different. The big one has, for fifteen straight seasons, had absolutely nothing to do with performance on the field. Our Lombardi Trophy, our Stanley Cup, is a clock that goes to the best team in the event at what really counts--changing the culture. To score the league any other way would be, with all apologies to the non-wrestling fans, akin to putting the Intercontinental Championship ahead of the WWE Championship.
Just so i dont get flamed about it, its not like i dont like the chairman's award. But i think it serves little to no part in the league. Fantasy Leagues should be about performence on the field, not off.

Corey Balint 26-02-2006 18:00
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Any decision or other opinions on the topic?

Alex Cormier 26-02-2006 18:04
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corey Balint
Any decision or other opinions on the topic?
How aboot this:

Once i get a full list. we will have a chat room and all discuss it there and vote. If more then Half of the league says yes then it will happen.

Koko Ed 26-02-2006 18:05
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corey Balint
Any decision or other opinions on the topic?
Well why you guys like to point out how otehr fantasy sport leagues are what has to be pointed out is Fantasy FIRST isn't like any other sport.
The game changes every year as do the players and there is very little information to go on, especially in the early going. Now Chairman's award level teams are pretty easy to ID even easier than team known for strong robots (yes even they have off years) so the Chairman's award is practically a gift to us.

Corey Balint 26-02-2006 18:07
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Well, I personally like a challenge, and if you look hard enough, you are able to find the winning robots easily.
And with the chairmans winners, as you said, they are easy to identify, which I think takes alot of fun out of the game.

Koko Ed 26-02-2006 18:08
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corey Balint
Well, I personally like a challenge, and if you look hard enough, you are able to find the winning robots easily.
And with the chairmans winners, as you said, they are easy to identify, which I think takes alot of fun out of the game.
Well they're not that easy...

Corey Balint 26-02-2006 18:13
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed
Well they're not that easy...
If you went and looked at it now, you could easily pinpoint the top 5 teams going for Chairmans this year and therefore, you give yourself that much greater a chance of those points.

Koko Ed 26-02-2006 18:14
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corey Balint
If you went and looked at it now, you could easily pinpoint the top 5 teams going for Chairmans this year and therefore, you give yourself that much greater a chance of those points.
I would not have figured 67 to win the Chairman's last year. I had a few teams ahead of them in mind and they won out so it's a little more complicated than that.

Alex Cormier 26-02-2006 18:15
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corey Balint
If you went and looked at it now, you could easily pinpoint the top 5 teams going for Chairmans this year and therefore, you give yourself that much greater a chance of those points.
then, that's what gives you a trophy vs a L in a league. think about Football Fantasy. Do you pick all the players from the Texans because your a fan and you love them? Or do you pick players from the colts offense and the panthers D and so on?

Corey Balint 26-02-2006 18:20
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Alex, i didnt understand the latter half of your point. Seems tohave no relevance...
I still think that since the chairmans is "chosen" by a panel, instead of a statistically based challenge or event, it should not be taken into consideration.

Cory 27-02-2006 05:06
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corey Balint
Alex, i didnt understand the latter half of your point. Seems tohave no relevance...
I still think that since the chairmans is "chosen" by a panel, instead of a statistically based challenge or event, it should not be taken into consideration.
Exactly. You don't get points in fantasy baseball/football/basketball/whatever for having a guy who wins comeback player of the year/MVP/etc.

It's really lame that someone could hypothetically make three absolutely terrible picks and have zero halfway decent robots, but win the entire league because they had a team that won chairman's.

Koko Ed 27-02-2006 05:14
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cory
Exactly. You don't get points in fantasy baseball/football/basketball/whatever for having a guy who wins comeback player of the year/MVP/etc.

It's really lame that someone could hypothetically make three absolutely terrible picks and have zero halfway decent robots, but win the entire league because they had a team that won chairman's.
That's not true because your score will be knocked down due to your robots poor performance ( and you can only win the Chairman's award once so your two other robot are going to knock down your score anyways) and there have been well documented case of not so great robots riding the coattials of their partners to having a great day and good robots done in by really poor partners.

Greg Needel 27-02-2006 05:25
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
ALEX! why is my name not on that list already?

Conor Ryan 27-02-2006 09:36
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Alex, since this is your league, can we get a list of who's accepted your invitation?

Alex Cormier 27-02-2006 12:15
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
The List So Far:
1. Alex Cormier
2. Billfred
3. Ed Patterson
4. Alex Pelan
5. Dan Swando
6. Lisa Perez
7. Steve Howland
8. T. Hoffman
9. Jeff Rodriguez
10. Arefin Bari
11. Conor Ryan
12. Levin
13. Corey Balint
14.Cory
15. Greg Needel
16.

17-20 the new "elites of the FF leagues"

Corey Balint 27-02-2006 15:46
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed
That's not true because your score will be knocked down due to your robots poor performance ( and you can only win the Chairman's award once so your two other robot are going to knock down your score anyways) and there have been well documented case of not so great robots riding the coattials of their partners to having a great day and good robots done in by really poor partners.
Yeah, but having an 80 point pickup...even with an 8 loss robot...they still make 48 points. Having a player ride a team is common though. Any football players performances are hindered or enhanced by the team surrounding them. Here it is no different.

Alex Cormier 27-02-2006 16:01
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
enough, im going to put an end to this.

NO more debating. everyone has a vote!

YES - keep chairmans, NO - take chairmans pts away/lower

YES- 1
NO -

Koko Ed 27-02-2006 16:03
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Cormier
enough, im going to put an end to this.

NO more debating. everyone has a vote!

YES - keep chairmans, NO - take chairmans pts away/lower

YES- 1
NO -
Why are you having a vote?
You're the commissioner. It's your league, run it!
Lay down the law and make a decision!

Alex Cormier 27-02-2006 16:05
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed
Why are you having a vote?
You're the commissioner. It's your league, run it!
Lay down the law and make a decision!
twas my decision to make a vote. NO more debatign and take a vote ED!

Koko Ed 27-02-2006 16:06
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Cormier
twas my decision to make a vote. NO more debatign and take a vote ED!
Yes for the Chairmans award of course.

Alex Cormier 27-02-2006 16:06
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
YES - 2
NO -

Alex Pelan 27-02-2006 16:09
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Cormier
enough, im going to put an end to this.

NO more debating. everyone has a vote!

YES - keep chairmans, NO - take chairmans pts away/lower

YES- 1
NO -
I don't think it matters terribly, but I'll weigh in anyway. I vote yes to keep the Chairman's as part of the FF score. FIRST has a unique nature not found in professional sports in the community aspect, and thus Fantasy FIRST should be modified to support this nature.

Jeff Rodriguez 27-02-2006 16:10
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
No

Steve Howland 27-02-2006 16:12
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
No. Lower.

Alex Cormier 27-02-2006 16:15
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
YES - 3
NO - 2

Conor Ryan 27-02-2006 16:17
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
No.
http://tm.ask.com/r?t=c&s=p&sv=0a300...ge s%2Fno.gif

Alex Cormier 27-02-2006 16:18
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
yes - 3
no - 3

p.s.

Greg Needel 27-02-2006 17:29
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
yes!

Corey Balint 27-02-2006 17:43
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Heck No.

However, if the league decides to keep it, I motion to lower the score.

Levin571 27-02-2006 17:55
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
No, count the chairmans award but lower the point values

Lisa Perez 27-02-2006 17:56
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Yes.

Billfred 27-02-2006 18:28
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Absolutely and without a doubt keep the Chairman's at its high value. Chairman's is not the division pennant--it's winning the World Series and going to Cooperstown at the same time.

Corey Balint 27-02-2006 19:51
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Billfred
Absolutely and without a doubt keep the Chairman's at its high value. Chairman's is not the division pennant--it's winning the World Series and going to Cooperstown at the same time.
It really is only going to Cooperstown...winning the World Series would be qualified as the Championship title if you ask me. Im thinking of another way to word my rebuttal...give me a few.

Alex Cormier 27-02-2006 21:01
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corey Balint
It really is only going to Cooperstown...winning the World Series would be qualified as the Championship title if you ask me. Im thinking of another way to word my rebuttal...give me a few.
corey, what did i say before no more debating, you too Billfred. make it short, keep it short. YES OR NO!

Corey Balint 27-02-2006 21:08
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Cormier
corey, what did i say before no more debating, you too Billfred. make it short, keep it short. YES OR NO!
He started it! :p

Alex Cormier 27-02-2006 21:09
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
well forget you all. The points are staying as is. enough.

Corey Balint 27-02-2006 21:10
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Well then, I guess i am going to drop outta the league.

Alex Cormier 27-02-2006 21:12
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
That's right folks, i am going to start a Championships Invitational League.
I will send out the invites (elites of FF) and try to get 20 or so. So if ya don't get a invite sorry. If i sent ya a PM that goes as your invite.

Update: I will reserve 3 spots for people who have won 2 or more regional leagues or extrodinary results in the FF Regional Leagues this year.

New change to scoring:Highest Rookie Seed, Unlisted Previous Award, Honorable Chairmans, WFA, W/L/T

Divisional Play:
20....1st seed
12....2nd and 3rd seed
6......4th through 8th
3......9th through 12th
2......12th through 16th

4......Quarter finalists
10.....Semifinalists
20.....Finalists
30.....Winners

15.....Highest Rookie seed

Overall:
85.....Chairmans
75.....Winners
55.....Engineering Inspiration Award
50.....Honorable Chairmans Mentions

40......Woodie Flowers
25.....Rookie All-Star
20.....Rookie Inspiration


4......Win(s)
-4.....Loss(es)
2......Tie(s)

10....Any unpreviously listed Award


also, PM and give me feedback on the scoring.


The List So Far:
1. Alex Cormier
2. Billfred
3. Ed Patterson
4. Alex Pelan
5. Dan Swando
6. Lisa Perez
7. Steve Howland
8. T. Hoffman
9. Jeff Rodriguez
10. Arefin Bari
11. Conor Ryan
12. Levin
13.
14.Cory
15. Greg Needel


16-20 the new "elites of the FF leagues"

Alex Cormier 19-03-2006 22:53
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
The List So Far:
1. Alex Cormier
2. Billfred
3. Ed Patterson
4. Alex Pelan
5. Dan Swando
6. Lisa Perez
7. Steve Howland
8. T. Hoffman
9. Jeff Rodriguez
10. Arefin Bari
11. Conor Ryan
12. Levin
13.
14.Cory
15. Greg Needel

16.Dhoizner


16-20 the new "elites of the FF leagues"

Crebb 20-03-2006 07:32
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
I'll play

Alex Cormier 21-03-2006 20:09
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
The List So Far:
1. Alex Cormier
2. Billfred
3. Ed Patterson
4. Alex Pelan
5. Dan Swando
6. Lisa Perez
7. Steve Howland
8. T. Hoffman
9. Jeff Rodriguez
10. Arefin Bari
11. Conor Ryan
12. Levin
13.
14.Cory
15. Greg Needel

16.Dhoizner
17. Stonedfan


16-20 the new "elites of the FF leagues"

Freddy Schurr 21-03-2006 22:00
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
I feel that I should be in,

Freddy204 FFL Standings

1. Buckeye Regional FFL- Second Place
2. Chesapeake Regional FFL- Third Place
3. Pittsburgh Regional FFL - Third Place
4. NJ Regional FFL- Fourth Place

Alex Cormier 21-03-2006 22:07
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddy204
I feel that I should be in,

Freddy204 FFL Standings

1. Buckeye Regional FFL- Second Place
2. Chesapeake Regional FFL- Third Place
3. Pittsburgh Regional FFL - Third Place
4. NJ Regional FFL- Fourth Place
It was discussed and the thing that keeps you out of this is. Missing draft picks in multiple leagues and not running your own league properly.

If you have a problem. PM me.

JackN 27-03-2006 00:48
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Can I get an Invite now that im a 2 regional winner this year?

Jeff Rodriguez 27-03-2006 11:31
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Everyone:
It's an invite league. You get in if you get invited, that's it.

Alex Cormier 27-03-2006 12:07
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ogre
Everyone:
It's an invite league. You get in if you get invited, that's it.
Thanks.

Back to my football days in highschool. if you went up to the coach to ask, can i go in coach? what do ya think the coach said? oh, sure you can go in on the next play of course for you. heck no, he tells you go sit down and wait until i call you.

so. don't bother to ask to be in the league. if you ask thats starting you off with 1 vote agaisnt ya...

Tim Delles 27-03-2006 14:36
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Cormier
Back to my football days in highschool. if you went up to the coach to ask, can i go in coach? what do ya think the coach said? oh, sure you can go in on the next play of course for you. heck no, he tells you go sit down and wait until i call you
Yeah back in the old slow mans day.... jk alex.

Levin571 27-03-2006 21:15
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Cormier
Thanks.

Back to my football days in highschool. if you went up to the coach to ask, can i go in coach? what do ya think the coach said? oh, sure you can go in on the next play of course for you. heck no, he tells you go sit down and wait until i call you.

so. don't bother to ask to be in the league. if you ask thats starting you off with 1 vote agaisnt ya...

Firsters and sports?!? Well, in an infinite universe anything is possible I guess. While 1derboy does meet some of the criteria so far (winning some FF divisions), I think we need to wait until all the other FF leagues have ended so we can have a list of all the FF winners and take a look at these people's drafting habits (such as showing up for them). And the final decision is Alex's since he is the host of this league.


__________________________________________________ ___________

Put me in coach, put me in, I can do this.

Alex Cormier 28-03-2006 15:02
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
well,i dunno about FIRSTand sports but i joined robotics the year after i was not allowed to play any more ocontact sports,so it worked out well for me i guess.

And yea, we will (the ones in the league) vote on who new is allowed to come in the league if i am questionable on someone. if ot my word stands and i say who goes in and whatnot.

Alex Cormier 04-04-2006 21:30
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
The List So Far:
1. Alex Cormier
2. Billfred
3. Ed Patterson
4. Alex Pelan
5. Dan Swando
6. Lisa Perez
7. Steve Howland
8. T. Hoffman
9. Jeff Rodriguez
10. Arefin Bari
11. Conor Ryan
12. Levin
13.Cory
14. Greg Needel
15.Dhoizner
16. Stonedfan
17. The Lucas
18. Henery 222
19. Tim Delles

New invites are
- 1derboy
- iCurtis



If those 4 accept. that will be the finalized list.

Tim Delles 04-04-2006 22:15
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
As long as the offer is still good, I'm up for it.

JackN 05-04-2006 07:23
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
I will accept my invitation.

Alex Cormier 05-04-2006 20:20
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
The Final List

1. Alex Cormier
2. Billfred
3. Ed Patterson
4. Alex Pelan
5. Dan Swando
6. Lisa Perez
7. Steve Howland
8. T. Hoffman
9. Jeff Rodriguez
10. Arefin Bari
11. Conor Ryan
12. Levin
13.Cory
14. Greg Needel
15.Dhoizner
16. Stonedfan
17. The Lucas
18. Henery 222
19. Tim Delles
20. 1derboy
21. iCurtis

Draft:

Round 1
1. Dan Swando
2. Stonedfan
3. Ed Patterson
4. iCurtis
5. Greg Needel
6. Travis Hoffman
7. The Lucas
8. Levin
9. Jeff Rod
10. Henry 222
11. Tim Delles
12. Conor Ryan
13. Steve Howland
14. 1derboy
15. Lisa Perez
16. Billfred
17. Cory
18. Dhoizner
19. Arefin Bari
20. Alex Pelan
21. Alex Cormier

Round 2
22. Alex Cormier
23. Alex Pelan
24. Arefin Bari
25. Dhoizner
26. Cory
27. Billfred
28. Lisa Perez
29. 1derboy
30. Steve Howland
31. Conor Ryan
32. Tim Delles
33. Henry 222
34. Jeff Rod
35. Levin
36. The Lucas
37. Travis Hoffman
38. Greg Needel
39. iCurtis
40. Ed Patterson
41. Stonedfan
42. Dan Swando

Now the question to all players and must be answered by PM.
Shall we go with 3 or 4 teams?

Levin571 09-04-2006 22:30
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
The votes have been counted and there will be 3 draft rounds.

Elgin Clock 09-04-2006 22:32
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
What's a matter Alex? Scared that the winner of last year's FF league (me) would beat you all if you invited me in this year?
I see how it is..

:p

Alex Cormier 09-04-2006 22:34
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elgin Clock
What's a matter Alex? Scared that the winner of last year's FF league (me) would beat you all if you invited me in this year?
I see how it is..

:p
i asked ya, didn't i? If i didn't um....

Levin571 09-04-2006 22:41
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Here is the order for round 3:
1. Lisa Perez
2. Dan Swando
3. Alex Pelan
4. Henery 222
5. Levin571
6. Alex Cormier
7. Steve Howland
8.Dhoizner
9. Jeff Rodriguez
10. Conor Ryan
11. Arefin Bari
12. T. Hoffman
13. Cory
14. Greg Needel
15. Tim Delles
16. Stonedfan
17. The Lucas
18. iCurtis
19. Billfred
20. 1derboy
21. Ed Patterson

and the website used was http://www.random.org/cgi-bin/randseq?min=1&max=21

Alex Cormier 09-04-2006 23:08
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
thanks Levin.

The draft will be next tuesday - thursday.

send me your lists.

Levin571 09-04-2006 23:41
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Can you post the teams that will be attending?

Alex Cormier 10-04-2006 09:59
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
1,4,somehting .... 2001

Levin571 10-04-2006 15:19
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Wow, he can spell too.

Tim Delles 10-04-2006 15:54
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Cormier
1,4,somehting .... 2001
Okay lets just make this clear. He goes to Canton not Clarkson. :D

All that aside he does spell worse than an engineer.

Tim Delles 10-04-2006 16:16
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
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1448
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1977


That is including the ones that are pending. I will fully update the day of the draft.

Cory 11-04-2006 13:24
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Cormier
thanks Levin.

The draft will be next tuesday - thursday.

send me your lists.
By Tuesday, do you mean today, the 11th?

Or do you mean next Tuesday, the 18th?

It would seem smart to wait until the divisions are released. Reason one being that until then, all the pending teams can still pay up. Reason two being that certain teams can become more or less attractive based on the division they reside in.

Alex Cormier 11-04-2006 13:29
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Next tuesday was meant by the 18th.

Tim Delles 11-04-2006 15:14
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
After the Divisions are released if anyone wants me to I can post each division with who is in it.

Swan217 14-04-2006 10:59
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
I pick 217

Galileo Curie Archimedes Newton
1 9 4 11
16 22 20 25
27 38 33 40
45 48 47 49
59 65 60 66
67 70 69 71
74 79 75 85
86 88 87 93
100 108 120 111
118 121 126 122
125 128 138 133
135 148 159 151
155 166 174 168
173 175 179 176
177 180 191 184
190 192 203 195
201 204 217 207
211 222 226 223
224 228 233 229
231 234 245 236
237 247 271 254
269 279 292 280
291 293 296 294
295 302 308 304
306 312 330 322
326 337 343 340
341 346 357 348
354 358 375 359
365 378 386 379
384 395 401 397
399 405 433 406
418 435 447 440
444 451 468 461
462 469 486 476
481 488 499 492
494 503 522 514
519 525 538 527
537 540 555 546
547 563 585 573
581 610 647 612
614 650 686 662
665 710 744 714
716 752 768 753
766 772 812 803
809 815 836 816
830 842 862 846
852 865 888 868
869 896 922 900
904 967 945 928
935 980 973 968
971 1002 999 987
989 1024 1023 1006
1014 1089 1057 1033
1038 1114 1108 1102
1103 1187 1138 1124
1126 1251 1184 1155
1158 1270 1250 1188
1241 1280 1266 1261
1262 1305 1279 1272
1276 1324 1302 1281
1289 1368 1323 1306
1319 1421 1367 1350
1366 1452 1394 1379
1390 1502 1414 1402
1403 1511 1450 1425
1448 1539 1492 1481
1482 1560 1508 1503
1506 1574 1538 1519
1523 1598 1549 1541
1547 1616 1568 1563
1567 1629 1595 1577
1592 1655 1610 1601
1604 1680 1626 1617
1625 1717 1654 1646
1649 1726 1675 1657
1662 1745 1714 1685
1700 1761 1723 1718
1719 1807 1743 1727
1730 1834 1756 1746
1747 1885 1803 1778
1784 1906 1816 1810
1814 1942 1880 1846
1868
1902 1887
1897
1941 1918
1922
1977

Alex Cormier 14-04-2006 11:05
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Round 1
1. Dan Swando.....217
2. Stonedfan
3. Ed Patterson
4. iCurtis
5. Greg Needel
6. Travis Hoffman
7. The Lucas
8. Levin
9. Jeff Rod
10. Henry 222
11. Tim Delles
12. Conor Ryan
13. Steve Howland
14. 1derboy
15. Lisa Perez
16. Billfred
17. Cory
18. Dhoizner
19. Arefin Bari
20. Alex Pelan
21. Alex Cormier

Galileo Curie Archimedes Newton
1 9 4 11
16 22 20 25
27 38 33 40
45 48 47 49
59 65 60 66
67 70 69 71
74 79 75 85
86 88 87 93
100 108 120 111
118 121 126 122
125 128 138 133
135 148 159 151
155 166 174 168
173 175 179 176
177 180 191 184
190 192 203 195
201 204 ...... 207
211 222 226 223
224 228 233 229
231 234 245 236
237 247 271 254
269 279 292 280
291 293 296 294
295 302 308 304
306 312 330 322
326 337 343 340
341 346 357 348
354 358 375 359
365 378 386 379
384 395 401 397
399 405 433 406
418 435 447 440
444 451 468 461
462 469 486 476
481 488 499 492
494 503 522 514
519 525 538 527
537 540 555 546
547 563 585 573
581 610 647 612
614 650 686 662
665 710 744 714
716 752 768 753
766 772 812 803
809 815 836 816
830 842 862 846
852 865 888 868
869 896 922 900
904 967 945 928
935 980 973 968
971 1002 999 987
989 1024 1023 1006
1014 1089 1057 1033
1038 1114 1108 1102
1103 1187 1138 1124
1126 1251 1184 1155
1158 1270 1250 1188
1241 1280 1266 1261
1262 1305 1279 1272
1276 1324 1302 1281
1289 1368 1323 1306
1319 1421 1367 1350
1366 1452 1394 1379
1390 1502 1414 1402
1403 1511 1450 1425
1448 1539 1492 1481
1482 1560 1508 1503
1506 1574 1538 1519
1523 1598 1549 1541
1547 1616 1568 1563
1567 1629 1595 1577
1592 1655 1610 1601
1604 1680 1626 1617
1625 1717 1654 1646
1649 1726 1675 1657
1662 1745 1714 1685
1700 1761 1723 1718
1719 1807 1743 1727
1730 1834 1756 1746
1747 1885 1803 1778
1784 1906 1816 1810
1814 1942 1880 1846
1868
1902 1887
1897
1941 1918
1922
1977

P.S. Just take out the team that you choose, and make sure you leave a blank there for all to see.

Jeff K. 14-04-2006 19:30
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Round 1
1. Dan Swando.....217
2. Stonedfan........1114
3. Ed Patterson
4. iCurtis
5. Greg Needel
6. Travis Hoffman
7. The Lucas
8. Levin
9. Jeff Rod
10. Henry 222
11. Tim Delles
12. Conor Ryan
13. Steve Howland
14. 1derboy
15. Lisa Perez
16. Billfred
17. Cory
18. Dhoizner
19. Arefin Bari
20. Alex Pelan
21. Alex Cormier

Galileo Curie Archimedes Newton
1 9 4 11
16 22 20 25
27 38 33 40
45 48 47 49
59 65 60 66
67 70 69 71
74 79 75 85
86 88 87 93
100 108 120 111
118 121 126 122
125 128 138 133
135 148 159 151
155 166 174 168
173 175 179 176
177 180 191 184
190 192 203 195
201 204 ...... 207
211 222 226 223
224 228 233 229
231 234 245 236
237 247 271 254
269 279 292 280
291 293 296 294
295 302 308 304
306 312 330 322
326 337 343 340
341 346 357 348
354 358 375 359
365 378 386 379
384 395 401 397
399 405 433 406
418 435 447 440
444 451 468 461
462 469 486 476
481 488 499 492
494 503 522 514
519 525 538 527
537 540 555 546
547 563 585 573
581 610 647 612
614 650 686 662
665 710 744 714
716 752 768 753
766 772 812 803
809 815 836 816
830 842 862 846
852 865 888 868
869 896 922 900
904 967 945 928
935 980 973 968
971 1002 999 987
989 1024 1023 1006
1014 1089 1057 1033
1038 1108 ....... 1102
1103 1187 1138 1124
1126 1251 1184 1155
1158 1270 1250 1188
1241 1280 1266 1261
1262 1305 1279 1272
1276 1324 1302 1281
1289 1368 1323 1306
1319 1421 1367 1350
1366 1452 1394 1379
1390 1502 1414 1402
1403 1511 1450 1425
1448 1539 1492 1481
1482 1560 1508 1503
1506 1574 1538 1519
1523 1598 1549 1541
1547 1616 1568 1563
1567 1629 1595 1577
1592 1655 1610 1601
1604 1680 1626 1617
1625 1717 1654 1646
1649 1726 1675 1657
1662 1745 1714 1685
1700 1761 1723 1718
1719 1807 1743 1727
1730 1834 1756 1746
1747 1885 1803 1778
1784 1906 1816 1810
1814 1942 1880 1846
1868
1902 1887
1897
1941 1918
1922
1977

P.S. Just take out the team that you choose, and make sure you leave a blank there for all to see.

Koko Ed 14-04-2006 19:43
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Oh gee..... I guess I have no choice but to take team 25...

Round 1
1. Dan Swando.....217
2. Stonedfan........1114
3. Ed Patterson.....25
4. iCurtis
5. Greg Needel
6. Travis Hoffman
7. The Lucas
8. Levin
9. Jeff Rod
10. Henry 222
11. Tim Delles
12. Conor Ryan
13. Steve Howland
14. 1derboy
15. Lisa Perez
16. Billfred
17. Cory
18. Dhoizner
19. Arefin Bari
20. Alex Pelan
21. Alex Cormier

Galileo Curie Archimedes Newton
1 9 4 11
16 22 20 ....
27 38 33 40
45 48 47 49
59 65 60 66
67 70 69 71
74 79 75 85
86 88 87 93
100 108 120 111
118 121 126 122
125 128 138 133
135 148 159 151
155 166 174 168
173 175 179 176
177 180 191 184
190 192 203 195
201 204 ...... 207
211 222 226 223
224 228 233 229
231 234 245 236
237 247 271 254
269 279 292 280
291 293 296 294
295 302 308 304
306 312 330 322
326 337 343 340
341 346 357 348
354 358 375 359
365 378 386 379
384 395 401 397
399 405 433 406
418 435 447 440
444 451 468 461
462 469 486 476
481 488 499 492
494 503 522 514
519 525 538 527
537 540 555 546
547 563 585 573
581 610 647 612
614 650 686 662
665 710 744 714
716 752 768 753
766 772 812 803
809 815 836 816
830 842 862 846
852 865 888 868
869 896 922 900
904 967 945 928
935 980 973 968
971 1002 999 987
989 1024 1023 1006
1014 1089 1057 1033
1038 1108 1102
1103 1187 1138 1124
1126 1251 1184 1155
1158 1270 1250 1188
1241 1280 1266 1261
1262 1305 1279 1272
1276 1324 1302 1281
1289 1368 1323 1306
1319 1421 1367 1350
1366 1452 1394 1379
1390 1502 1414 1402
1403 1511 1450 1425
1448 1539 1492 1481
1482 1560 1508 1503
1506 1574 1538 1519
1523 1598 1549 1541
1547 1616 1568 1563
1567 1629 1595 1577
1592 1655 1610 1601
1604 1680 1626 1617
1625 1717 1654 1646
1649 1726 1675 1657
1662 1745 1714 1685
1700 1761 1723 1718
1719 1807 1743 1727
1730 1834 1756 1746
1747 1885 1803 1778
1784 1906 1816 1810
1814 1942 1880 1846
1868
1902 1887
1897
1941 1918
1922
1977

Ian Curtis 14-04-2006 21:26
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Let's here it for those people in green who never stop cheering. Go MOE!

Round 1
1. Dan Swando.....217
2. Stonedfan........1114
3. Ed Patterson.....25
4. iCurtis..............365
5. Greg Needel
6. Travis Hoffman
7. The Lucas
8. Levin
9. Jeff Rod
10. Henry 222
11. Tim Delles
12. Conor Ryan
13. Steve Howland
14. 1derboy
15. Lisa Perez
16. Billfred
17. Cory
18. Dhoizner
19. Arefin Bari
20. Alex Pelan
21. Alex Cormier

Galileo Curie Archimedes Newton
1 9 4 11
16 22 20 ....
27 38 33 40
45 48 47 49
59 65 60 66
67 70 69 71
74 79 75 85
86 88 87 93
100 108 120 111
118 121 126 122
125 128 138 133
135 148 159 151
155 166 174 168
173 175 179 176
177 180 191 184
190 192 203 195
201 204 ...... 207
211 222 226 223
224 228 233 229
231 234 245 236
237 247 271 254
269 279 292 280
291 293 296 294
295 302 308 304
306 312 330 322
326 337 343 340
341 346 357 348
354 358 375 359
.... 378 386 379
384 395 401 397
399 405 433 406
418 435 447 440
444 451 468 461
462 469 486 476
481 488 499 492
494 503 522 514
519 525 538 527
537 540 555 546
547 563 585 573
581 610 647 612
614 650 686 662
665 710 744 714
716 752 768 753
766 772 812 803
809 815 836 816
830 842 862 846
852 865 888 868
869 896 922 900
904 967 945 928
935 980 973 968
971 1002 999 987
989 1024 1023 1006
1014 1089 1057 1033
1038 1108 1102
1103 1187 1138 1124
1126 1251 1184 1155
1158 1270 1250 1188
1241 1280 1266 1261
1262 1305 1279 1272
1276 1324 1302 1281
1289 1368 1323 1306
1319 1421 1367 1350
1366 1452 1394 1379
1390 1502 1414 1402
1403 1511 1450 1425
1448 1539 1492 1481
1482 1560 1508 1503
1506 1574 1538 1519
1523 1598 1549 1541
1547 1616 1568 1563
1567 1629 1595 1577
1592 1655 1610 1601
1604 1680 1626 1617
1625 1717 1654 1646
1649 1726 1675 1657
1662 1745 1714 1685
1700 1761 1723 1718
1719 1807 1743 1727
1730 1834 1756 1746
1747 1885 1803 1778
1784 1906 1816 1810
1814 1942 1880 1846
1868
1902 1887
1897
1941 1918
1922
1977

Corey Balint 15-04-2006 12:58
Re: 2006 Championships FF Invitational League
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed
Oh gee..... I guess I have no choice but to take team 25...
Eh, there were much better choices out there.


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