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Joe Ross 01-04-2006 23:28
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by guju4life2005
so the last set of regionals are over, any idea when the Championship Divsion Team list will be coming out?
2 years ago, it came out the Thursday after the last regionals. Last year it came out the second Monday after the last regionals.

Nuttyman54 01-04-2006 23:50
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
well if that list doesn't change, 1114 and 1503 are in the same division. Watch out

JackN 02-04-2006 00:14
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
If the aliances end up like this, Archimedes looks like it might be the strongest division by a lot.

George A. 02-04-2006 00:15
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
ok this is going to sound like a stupid question...but let's say that they make the divisions...and it goes

A C G N
1 2 4 5


and so on...and then team 3 qualifies and registers...do they go inbetween 2 and 4 like they're numerically supposed to, or are they randomly assigned to another division?

Allison K 02-04-2006 00:16
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
They get added in numerical order. That's why people have been continually updating the list, because every time a new team is added it changes.

jgannon 02-04-2006 00:26
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by M.O.R.T.
ok this is going to sound like a stupid question...but let's say that they make the divisions...and it goes

A C G N
1 2 4 5


and so on...and then team 3 qualifies and registers...do they go inbetween 2 and 4 like they're numerically supposed to, or are they randomly assigned to another division?
Divisions won't be assigned until registration for Atlanta is closed.

Nuttyman54 02-04-2006 00:27
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by M.O.R.T.
let's say that they make the divisions...and it goes

A C G N
1 2 4 5


and so on...and then team 3 qualifies and registers...do they go inbetween 2 and 4 like they're numerically supposed to, or are they randomly assigned to another division?
They'd bump 4 to Newton and 5 to Archimedes so it would become

A C G N
1 2 3 4
5

George A. 02-04-2006 01:00
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Thanks for the speedy respones...so i'm also assuming that these lists are comprised of teams that qualified, not necessarily going...for example

team 433 won (and most deservedly so) the EI at Philly today, and since registration is closed on Tuesday (correct me if I'm wrong) then they won't be going to atlanta, and thus the lists will shift again...so i guess we'll just have to wait and see when registration closes.

Nuttyman54 02-04-2006 01:33
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
I thought teams had 2 weeks to register. I know when we won SVR back in 2004 that's what we had, and we needed all of it to scrounge up the money.

Cory 02-04-2006 05:10
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuttyman54
well if that list doesn't change, 1114 and 1503 are in the same division. Watch out
I highly doubt that 254/968 1114/1503/1680 or 494/70 end up in the same division.

GaryVoshol 02-04-2006 07:44
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cory
I highly doubt that 254/968 1114/1503/1680 or 494/70 end up in the same division.
Seeing as 1680 isn't on the list yet, at least 1/3 of your prediction will be true.

StephLee 02-04-2006 08:13
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GaryV1188
Seeing as 1680 isn't on the list yet, at least 1/3 of your prediction will be true.
Quote:
Originally Posted by StephLee
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1057 1089 1102 1103
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1629 1646 1649 1654
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1807 1810 1814 1816
1834 1846 1868 1880
1885 1887 1897 1902
1906 1918 1922 1941
1942 1955 1977
They're on the list, but not in the same division as 1503 and 1114.

Joe Ross 02-04-2006 11:57
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by M.O.R.T.
ok this is going to sound like a stupid question...but let's say that they make the divisions...and it goes

A C G N
1 2 4 5


and so on...and then team 3 qualifies and registers...do they go inbetween 2 and 4 like they're numerically supposed to, or are they randomly assigned to another division?
Once FIRST officially releases the divisions, the teams don't get added in the middle. The get added at the end. In your example, team 3 would get added to A. The next team would get added to C.

A C G N
1 2 4 5
3

Like Joey Gannon said, the Divisions won't come out until registration closes, so there may be no changes, or if there is a team added from the waiting list, it won't mess everyone up.

jgannon 03-04-2006 18:43
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Six more teams added today. 1114, 1503, and 1680 are all in separate divisions. 254 and 968 are separate, but 70 and 494 are together. The fourth division looks to be the strongest.

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16 20 22 25
27 33 38 40
45 47 48 49
59 60 65 66
67 69 70 71
74 75 79 85
86 87 88 93
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662 665 686 710
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1368 1379 1390 1394
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1482 1492 1502 1503
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1523 1538 1539 1541
1547 1549 1560 1563
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1598 1601 1604 1610
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1646 1649 1654 1655
1662 1675 1680 1685
1700 1714 1717 1718
1719 1723 1726 1727
1743 1746 1747 1756
1761 1778 1807 1810
1816 1834 1846 1868
1880 1885 1887 1897
1918 1922 1941

SizzelChest330 04-04-2006 02:55
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Is anyone else seeing alot of the same teams in thier division again this year? not just from the updated list, but in all of them nearly the same pattern.

vadyr 04-04-2006 07:17
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
103 isnt on there :( ...we just registered so im sure it will take a little while for FIRST to get our name on the books

Travis Hoffman 04-04-2006 08:11
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vadyr
103 isnt on there :( ...we just registered so im sure it will take a little while for FIRST to get our name on the books
**Why do we all keep doing this when we KNOW the list is going to change? Humans are funny.

Here are the divisions with all pending teams included:

Code:
1 4 9 11
16 20 22 25
27 33 38 40
45 47 48 49
59 60 65 66
67 69 70 71
74 75 79 85
86 87 88 93
100 103 108 111
118 120 121 122
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135 138 148 151
155 159 166 168
173 174 175 176
177 179 180 184
190 191 192 195
201 203 204 207
211 217 223 224
226 228 229 231
233 234 236 237
245 247 254 269
271 279 280 292
295 296 302 304
306 308 312 322
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341 343 346 348
354 357 358 359
365 375 378 383
384 386 395 397
399 401 405 406
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444 447 451 461
462 468 469 476
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538 540 546 547
555 563 573 581
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1747 1756 1761 1778
1784 1803 1807 1810
1816 1834 1846 1868
1880 1885 1887 1897
1902 1906 1918 1922
1941

nuggetsyl 04-04-2006 09:45
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
:( 233 is now not in our division. but we did get 111 :D

Tim Delles 04-04-2006 10:19
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
175 and 254 are both in our division as of right now :D

Andy Baker 04-04-2006 10:38
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nuggetsyl
:( 233 is now not in our division. but we did get 111 :D
How do you know FIRST will select divisions this way?

I really hope FIRST has some creativity and mixes up the division selection this year. They could do it a number of ways:

ABCD

1st 10 (or another number) are in 1 division, next 10 in another, next 10 in another, next 10 in another

Geographically: west, east, south, north

Team colors: Red & Orange, Yellow & Green, Blue & Indigo, Violet & Black
(that would be HILARIOUS!!)

Time in FIRST: 15-10 years, 9-6 years, 5-3 years, 2-1 years

Team names: All teams with "Robo" in one division, all teams with "Techno" in another, All teams with "bot" in the third, and the rest for others. OK... that would not work too well.

Random selection, Wednesday night @ Championships: We all gather in the dome while Dean and Woodie draw numbers from a lotto machine. Numbers go on the big screen and teams cheer. Forklifts go crazy in the pits shuffling crates back and forth. Mass hysteria ensues. Silliness prevails.

The 4 Field m/c's are "team captains". They pick which teams are in their divisions, like on the elementary school playground before a kickball game. The last team picked in each division automatically is partnered with the #1 seed in the finals.

oh... this is getting fun...

FIRST counts up the number of calls and emails from each team. The teams with the most calls and emails asking for assistance all get placed into one division, as the teams who never call or email are placed in another. Teams who call only sometimes are put into two other divisions. The one division with all of the "communicators" has a riot midway through the Q matches on Friday.

All Chairman's Award finalists, spirit award winners, and teams with WFFA winners are placed in the same division. All other teams are strewn about the three remaining divisions. The CA, spirit, and WFFA division winners are determined by which teams are the loudest and the most helpful. The matches in this division stop midway through Friday, as everyone forms a group hug and then proceeds to do the Cha Cha Slide for the rest of the day.

... or, they can just do the ABCD method.

Andy B.

Sam Lipscomb 04-04-2006 10:46
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Baker
Team colors: Red & Orange, Yellow & Green, Blue & Indigo, Violet & Black
that would rock! except what happens to team pink and the queens? :p

as a member of a team that is not attending nationals, i feel left out. :( good thing i plan on being there anyway to cheer for all of new england's representatives! chea nerd!

Andy Baker 04-04-2006 10:53
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by innovativechic
that would rock! except what happens to team pink and the queens? :p
We can put them in with the red & orange division.

Also... teams with multi-colors (tie dye, rainbow, etc.) must play in all divisions in this scenario. That should be no problem.

Barry Bonzack 04-04-2006 11:00
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Man it'd be nice if my two teams were in the same division... leave less running between pits for me. Looks like chances are slim though.

Meredith Rice 04-04-2006 11:25
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by M.O.R.T.
Team 433 won (and most deservedly so) the EI at Philly today, and since registration is closed on Tuesday (correct me if I'm wrong) then they won't be going to atlanta, and thus the lists will shift again...so i guess we'll just have to wait and see when registration closes.
The Firebirds were scrambling for the money to register for the championships, but the school graciously offered to cover the registration fee on Tuesday (today) provided they promise to reimburse the money. I heard some good news from Karen (on 433) that they found an additional sponsor who will hopefully be able to reimburse the school for the registration fee. So the Firebirds will most definitely be at Atlanta this month! :D (even though I won't attending with the team, I'm really siked for them; I'll be with them in spirit)

GaryVoshol 04-04-2006 11:40
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Baker
How do you know FIRST will select divisions this way?

I really hope FIRST has some creativity and mixes up the division selection this year. They could do it a number of ways:

//snip//

... or, they can just do the ABCD method.

Andy B.
How about a - gasp! - serpentine selection: ABCD, DCBA, ABCD, etc.

Greg Needel 04-04-2006 11:44
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Baker
How do you know FIRST will select divisions this way?


they can just do the ABCD method.

Andy B.

personally i would like to see FIRST just to 2 at a time. Like AABBCCDD etc. There are too many teams that are right next to each other in numerical sequence that never get to play each other.

like when i was on 73 we always were with HOT (67) but never with beaty (71)...it would just help mix things up a bit and it isn't that hard to implement

Alex Cormier 04-04-2006 11:46
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
uhoh, i dont really do much in the rumor mill but.

I see one dominate team in the first division. we shall see if they stay that way.

Chris Fultz 04-04-2006 11:54
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Baker
How do you know FIRST will select divisions this way?

Geographically: west, east, south, north

Andy B.

I was told, by a very reliable source (of course, I cannot disclose the name :ahh: ), that is was going to be by geographic location, with the N - S- E - W division borders determined by the locations of teams.

I understand that this decision has been made because the continual debate on which region is toughest is eating up too much space on Chief Delphi and makes the moderators work soo hard editing obsenities from posts. So, Brandon Martus convinced Woody and Dean to resolve it once and for all by having a showdown in the finals. This will finally answer the question on the playing field.

To make it a real test of the best, AFTER the division finals, the winning alliance captain can then re-select the other two teams to compete for the Championship out of everyone in their division. And, if they are truly full of GP, they could even give their captaincy to another team if they felt that would provide the BEST - BEST alliance for the Einstein matches.

It's all true, or Andy Baker is not my cousin. :)

akshar 04-04-2006 12:56
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Fultz
I was told, by a very reliable source (of course, I cannot disclose the name :ahh: ), that is was going to be by geographic location, with the N - S- E - W division borders determined by the locations of teams.
very interesting. if divsions were picked by region, wouldnt it be like a super regional? most of the teams you compete aganst would be teams you saw during regionals (unless you went to a different region ie. 233 to boston). and where do international teams fit in

then if you were to :

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Fultz
To make it a real test of the best, AFTER the division finals, the winning alliance captain can then re-select the other two teams to compete for the Championship out of everyone in their division. And, if they are truly full of GP, they could even give their captaincy to another team if they felt that would provide the BEST - BEST alliance for the Einstein matches.
technically, wouldnt the winning alliance be the bst in their division? y would they want to change the alliance?

ps. i wouldnt mind having divsional championships

AcesPease 04-04-2006 13:27
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Baker
How do you know FIRST will select divisions this way?

I really hope FIRST has some creativity and mixes up the division selection this year.

Andy B.

I agree with Andy. Lets mix it up.

nuggetsyl 04-04-2006 15:50
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
i hope first mixes things up but there is a saying if it is not broken do not fix it. Besides at the reagionals i went to i heard a bunch of teams complain about who they were with and against. I think someone from 48 talked about how he wished he was with or against us once.


shaun

Travis Hoffman 04-04-2006 16:31
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nuggetsyl
i hope first mixes things up but there is a saying if it is not broken do not fix it. Besides at the reagionals i went to i heard a bunch of teams complain about who they were with and against. I think someone from 48 talked about how he wished he was with or against us once.


shaun
Ah yes, that would have been me. We never faced or allied with 25 at New Jersey. We found that to be...disappointing.

Even in later regionals, we faced teams multiple times while not ever seeing others. I still think this can be improved upon.

Match list generation is a completely separate topic from the divisional selection criteria, because no matter which teams populate the division, the problem of facing teams multiple times while never seeing others will still be there.

I know a certain Canadian UFH and Head Referee who created a certain match list generation routine that was used very briefly in a few competitions but was then inexplicably discarded. His algorithm worked very well to reduce and/or eliminate the problems mentioned above. I have no idea why FIRST chose to abandon it.

AcesPease 04-04-2006 16:53
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by T. Hoffman
Ah yes, that would have been me. We never faced or allied with 25 at New Jersey. We found that to be...disappointing.

Even in later regionals, we faced teams multiple times while not ever seeing others. I still think this can be improved upon.

Match list generation is a completely separate topic from the divisional selection criteria, because no matter which teams populate the division, the problem of facing teams multiple times while never seeing others will still be there.

I know a certain Canadian UFH and Head Referee who created a certain match list generation routine that was used very briefly in a few competitions but was then inexplicably discarded. His algorithm worked very well to reduce and/or eliminate the problems mentioned above. I have no idea why FIRST chose to abandon it.
There has been a lot of discussion about "Random" Match List Generation on this forum , tough issue with no easy answer.

Chris Fultz 04-04-2006 17:07
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by guju4life2005
technically, wouldnt the winning alliance be the bst in their division? y would they want to change the alliance?
maybe, but not always - the winning alliance was the best combination of three teams from the way the draft is set up, but not necessarily the three "best" teams in the division to go forward and play. Think about it like Little League baseball. There is a season champion team, but then players from all of the teams become the all-stars.


Its all in fun, anyway.

Mike Schroeder 04-04-2006 17:15
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
a little birdy told me they would have 6 fields running at Championships this year....

Nawaid Ladak 04-04-2006 17:33
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
great, now if all the triplets are on one feild......ALL of them will most likely go to Eninstine......

how would a six feild system work

5 Divisions?????

and if the feilds are based on regions....then where do Great Britin, Brizil, Mexico, Equador, and Isreal fall into......

if the last statement is true.......i mean divisions by region..... that means most likely the first will be true as welll

This means trouble.......BIG TROUBLE
(If this is true)

Ted Boucher 04-04-2006 17:40
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Mike
a little birdy told me they would have 6 fields running at Championships this year....
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Mike
Alright so seeing as it is really slow at Home Depot right now, and in a continuing effort to look busy i was browsing through the computer system to see if 200 Bedford Street had any recent orders and the only thing i saw scared me alittle, i printed out a copy but for the obvious reasons, i cannot keep my job and post it on the Internet, but an order was made for 2000 Mailboxes.... I don't know what this means, but it is an very interesting element indeed
( http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hlight=mailbox )
Did this little birdy deliver 2000 mailboxes at FIRST HQ and overhear this?

lol just kidding! I would really like to see 6 fields this year, the more matches the better.

Jake177 04-04-2006 17:56
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by iCurtis
Yep, theres six. 4 for FRC divisions (Galileo, Newton, Curie, Archimedes). 1 for FRC finals/FLL competition (Einstein) and one for FVC (Da Vinci).
6 divisions wouldn't really work. What would you do when it came time for the finals? Since 6 is not a power of 2, you would have to give 2 division champs byes. How would you figure out which two wouldn't have to play the first round?

Now 8 divisions...

pathew100 04-04-2006 18:16
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake177
6 divisions wouldn't really work. What would you do when it came time for the finals? Since 6 is not a power of 2, you would have to give 2 division champs byes. How would you figure out which two wouldn't have to play the first round?

Now 8 divisions...
He was actually referring to the amount of fields they have set up on the floor of the Georgia Dome. There are 4 for the 4 FRC divisions, one for Einstein (the finals and awards are done here) and one area for FLL and FVC.

DanDon 04-04-2006 18:59
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Here are the divisions as of 18:48 EST on Tuesday 4/4 with 307 teams registered:

Code:
1    4    9    11
16    20    22    25
27    33    38    40
45    47    48    49
59    60    65    66
67    69    70    71
74    75    79    85
86    87    88    93
100    108    111    118
120    121    122    125
126    128    133    135
138    148    151    155
159    166    168    173
174    175    176    177
179    180    184    190
191    192    195    201
203    204    207    211
217    223    224    226
228    229    231    233
234    236    237    245
247    254    269    271
279    280    292    295
302    304    308    312
322    326    330    337
340    341    343    346
348    354    357    358
359    365    375    378
384    386    395    397
399    401    405    406
418    433    435    440
444    447    451    461
462    468    469    476
486    488    492    494
499    503    514    519
525    527    538    540
546    547    555    563
573    581    585    610
612    614    647    650
662    665    686    710
714    716    752    753
766    768    803    809
812    815    816    830
836    842    846    852
862    868    869    888
896    900    904    922
928    935    945    967
968    971    973    980
989    999    1002    1006
1014    1023    1024    1033
1038    1057    1089    1102
1103    1108    1114    1124
1126    1138    1155    1184
1187    1188    1241    1250
1251    1261    1262    1266
1272    1276    1279    1280
1289    1302    1305    1306
1323    1324    1350    1366
1367    1368    1379    1390
1394    1402    1403    1414
1425    1448    1450    1452
1481    1482    1492    1502
1503    1506    1508    1511
1519    1523    1538    1539
1541    1547    1549    1560
1563    1567    1568    1592
1595    1598    1601    1604
1610    1616    1617    1626
1629    1646    1649    1654
1655    1662    1675    1680
1685    1700    1714    1717
1718    1719    1723    1726
1727    1730    1743    1746
1747    1756    1761    1778
1807    1810    1816    1834
1846    1868    1880    1885
1887    1897    1918    1922
1941    1942    1977

Kirk 04-04-2006 19:15
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Where did you find the list on Firsts site? Or is your list still a guess?

DanDon 04-04-2006 19:19
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirk
Where did you find the list on Firsts site? Or is your list still a guess?
No, FIRST didn't release the divisions yet. My list is still a guess :(.

Oh well, all we can do is speculate until they do release the list......I'll just keep updating every day with the new team lists.

DanDon 04-04-2006 21:17
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
As I posted here according to the FIRST site, the deadline for payment is April 14. Which means we probably have until then to speculate....all the more time for "as of now" division lists......yay!! :D

Koko Ed 04-04-2006 22:42
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Lord have mercy! I just spent a good portion of the night trying to organize the divisions by east, west, north and south like Andy suggested. Waaaay too many East Coast and Northern (basically Midwestern) teams to pull off.
That was a complete waste of time. :rolleyes:

AmyPrib 05-04-2006 00:02
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Mike
a little birdy told me they would have 6 fields running at Championships this year....
Heh, musta been the same birdy I heard back on pg4. :D I do wish they'd find a good way to reduce number of teams per division though.

Lil' Lavery 05-04-2006 00:07
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake177
6 divisions wouldn't really work. What would you do when it came time for the finals? Since 6 is not a power of 2, you would have to give 2 division champs byes. How would you figure out which two wouldn't have to play the first round?

Now 8 divisions...
They could just extend the Einstein play. Have a round robin style ranking system for the alliances, the top 2 ranked alliance then get round 1 byes int he elimination rounds. Who wouldn't want more awesome play on the Einstein field?

Jon Jack 05-04-2006 00:44
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
I wonder if FIRST would want to build an extra playing field. After all they already have 8 playing fields built, and if they built 1 more they could make each of the 8 playing fields a division with the new field used a the Einstein field. This way the amount of teams playing on Einstein is a power of 2. Also, each division would only be about 43 or so teams.

Then again would there be enough space on the floor of the GD to hold 8 playing fields?

Ricky Q. 05-04-2006 00:48
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjack
I wonder if FIRST would want to build an extra playing field. After all they already have 8 playing fields built, and if they built 1 more they could make each of the 8 playing fields a division with the new field used a the Einstein field. This way the amount of teams playing on Einstein is a power of 2. Also, each division would only be about 43 or so teams.

Then again would there be enough space on the floor of the GD to hold 8 playing fields?
FIRST actually has 10 fields.

I think we will see the same old system, 4 divisions, ABCD style.

pyroslev 05-04-2006 12:29
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Same Divisions. The question now is how will the order in them be decided.

The White paper that someone posted helps. Update as you go

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/1812

Sam Lipscomb 05-04-2006 12:51
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sila741
I feel stupid asking this, but what is Einstien? Is it some kind of division?
Einstien is the name of the field for finals. Division winners, an alliance each from Archimedes, Curie, Galileo and Newton, all compete on Einstien for the Championship Winners title. Semifinals between the four divisions, then two left to go for the gold!

Elgin Clock 05-04-2006 12:55
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Lipscomb
Einstien is the name of the field for finals. Division winners, an alliance each from Archimedes, Curie, Galileo and Newton, all compete on Einstien for the Championship Winners title. Semifinals between the four divisions, then two left to go for the gold!
To add to what Sam said, Einstein is also where Opening and Closing cermonies take place.

Mr.G 05-04-2006 13:07
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
The Pit Map on the First's web site still shows 4 divisions, but there is a red and a blue section for each. So it will be 4 or 8 fields.

pyroslev 05-04-2006 14:35
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.G
The Pit Map on the First's web site still shows 4 divisions, but there is a red and a blue section for each. So it will be 4 or 8 fields.
Just noticed that. Probably four divisions. Red/Blue might be part of the location system for the volunteers or for station setup on the field. Who knows.

315 teams and counting. My list has shifted at least four times today.

Peter Matteson 05-04-2006 14:50
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
I'm now thinking they'll do divisions like the pits at the events I've been to this year.

Highest and lowest numbers in A
2nd Highest and 2nd lowest numbers in B
3rd Highest and 3rd lowest numbers in C
etc...

Won't be a huge shift if they do it but something like that or a serpentine type of division selection would be nice.

Nawaid Ladak 05-04-2006 15:11
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
There is a new opener on the FIRST website, it says 6 feilds

4 divisions, einstin and davinchi

AmyPrib 05-04-2006 15:23
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Here's the agenda with their flowchart of activities.
http://www.usfirst.org/robotics/2006...nce_Agenda.pdf

DaVinci for VEX. Einstein for FLL and FRC finals.

Laura 1547 05-04-2006 17:56
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Here's the latest list!! What can i say...I got bored :rolleyes:


1 4 9 11
16 20 22 25
27 33 38 40
45 47 48 49
59 60 65 66
67 69 70 71
74 75 79 85
86 87 88 93
100 108 111 118
120 121 122 125
126 128 133 135
138 148 151 155
159 166 168 173
174 175 176 177
179 180 184 190
191 192 195 201
203 204 207 211
217 223 224 226
228 229 231 233
234 236 237 245
247 254 269 271
279 280 291 292
295 302 304 308
312 322 326 330
337 340 341 343
346 348 354 357
358 359 365 375
378 384 386 395
397 399 401 405
406 418 433 435
440 444 447 451
461 462 468 469
476 486 488 492
494 499 503 514
519 525 527 537
538 540 546 547
555 563 573 581
585 610 612 614
647 650 662 665
686 710 714 716
752 753 766 768
803 809 812 815
816 830 836 842
846 852 862 865
868 869 888 896
900 904 922 928
935 945 967 968
971 973 980 987
989 999 1002 1006
1014 1023 1024 1033
1038 1057 1089 1102
1103 1108 1114 1124
1126 1138 1155 1184
1187 1188 1241 1250
1251 1261 1262 1266
1270 1272 1276 1279
1280 1289 1302 1305
1306 1319 1323 1324
1350 1366 1367 1368
1379 1390 1394 1402
1403 1414 1421 1425
1448 1450 1452 1481
1482 1492 1502 1503
1506 1508 1511 1519
1523 1538 1539 1541
1547 1549 1560 1563
1567 1568 1574 1577
1592 1595 1598 1601
1604 1610 1616 1617
1626 1629 1646 1649
1654 1655 1657 1662
1675 1680 1685 1700
1714 1717 1718 1719
1723 1726 1727 1730
1743 1746 1747 1756
1761 1778 1807 1810
1814 1816 1834 1846
1868 1880 1885 1887
1897 1902 1906 1918
1922 1941 1942 1977


That's with 320 teams registered. There's still plenty more to come. :)

DanDon 05-04-2006 18:27
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
And here are divisions were all the pending teams to pay:

Quote:
1 4 9 11
16 20 22 25
27 33 38 40
45 47 48 49
59 60 65 66
67 69 70 71
74 75 79 85
86 87 88 93
100 103 108 111
118 120 121 122
125 126 128 133
135 138 148 151
155 159 166 168
173 174 175 176
177 179 180 184
190 191 192 195
201 203 204 207
211 217 223 224
226 228 229 231
233 234 236 237
245 247 254 269
271 279 280 291
292 295 296 302
304 306 308 312
322 326 330 337
340 341 343 346
348 354 357 358
359 365 375 378
383 384 386 395
397 399 401 405
406 418 433 435
440 444 447 451
461 462 468 469
476 481 486 488
492 494 499 503
514 519 525 527
537 538 540 546
547 555 563 573
581 585 610 612
614 647 650 662
665 686 710 714
716 752 753 766
768 772 803 809
812 815 816 830
836 842 846 852
862 865 868 869
888 896 900 904
922 926 928 935
945 967 968 971
973 980 987 989
999 1002 1006 1014
1023 1024 1033 1038
1057 1089 1102 1103
1108 1114 1124 1126
1138 1139 1155 1158
1184 1187 1188 1241
1250 1251 1261 1262
1266 1270 1272 1276
1279 1280 1281 1289
1302 1305 1306 1319
1323 1324 1350 1366
1367 1368 1379 1390
1394 1398 1402 1403
1414 1421 1425 1448
1450 1452 1481 1482
1492 1502 1503 1506
1508 1511 1519 1523
1538 1539 1541 1547
1549 1560 1563 1567
1568 1574 1577 1592
1595 1598 1601 1604
1610 1616 1617 1625
1626 1629 1646 1649
1654 1655 1657 1662
1675 1680 1685 1700
1714 1717 1718 1719
1723 1726 1727 1730
1743 1745 1746 1747
1756 1761 1778 1784
1803 1807 1810 1814
1816 1834 1846 1868
1880 1885 1887 1897
1902 1906 1918 1922
1941 1942 1977
That's a total of 335 teams (320 teams registered and 15 teams pending).

Team list: here

coldfusion1279 05-04-2006 18:27
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laura 1547
Here's the latest list!! What can i say...I got bored :rolleyes:


1 4 9 11
16 20 22 25
27 33 38 40
45 47 48 49
59 60 65 66
67 69 70 71
74 75 79 85
86 87 88 93
100 108 111 118
120 121 122 125
126 128 133 135
138 148 151 155
159 166 168 173
174 175 176 177
179 180 184 190
191 192 195 201
203 204 207 211
217 223 224 226
228 229 231 233
234 236 237 245
247 254 269 271
279 280 291 292
295 302 304 308
312 322 326 330
337 340 341 343
346 348 354 357
358 359 365 375
378 384 386 395
397 399 401 405
406 418 433 435
440 444 447 451
461 462 468 469
476 486 488 492
494 499 503 514
519 525 527 537
538 540 546 547
555 563 573 581
585 610 612 614
647 650 662 665
686 710 714 716
752 753 766 768
803 809 812 815
816 830 836 842
846 852 862 865
868 869 888 896
900 904 922 928
935 945 967 968
971 973 980 987
989 999 1002 1006
1014 1023 1024 1033
1038 1057 1089 1102
1103 1108 1114 1124
1126 1138 1155 1184
1187 1188 1241 1250
1251 1261 1262 1266
1270 1272 1276 1279
1280 1289 1302 1305
1306 1319 1323 1324
1350 1366 1367 1368
1379 1390 1394 1402
1403 1414 1421 1425
1448 1450 1452 1481
1482 1492 1502 1503
1506 1508 1511 1519
1523 1538 1539 1541
1547 1549 1560 1563
1567 1568 1574 1577
1592 1595 1598 1601
1604 1610 1616 1617
1626 1629 1646 1649
1654 1655 1657 1662
1675 1680 1685 1700
1714 1717 1718 1719
1723 1726 1727 1730
1743 1746 1747 1756
1761 1778 1807 1810
1814 1816 1834 1846
1868 1880 1885 1887
1897 1902 1906 1918
1922 1941 1942 1977


That's with 320 teams registered. There's still plenty more to come. :)
Yeah but hopefully itll stay that way because that puts us (1279) in with our old friends team 25 and 375, both of which we wouldnt mind playing against ( or with ;) ) again

Nawaid Ladak 05-04-2006 18:30
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Look on the bright side. the triplets are together in the regestered list, but the dark side to this situation is the pending list

DanDon 06-04-2006 16:08
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
With 323 teams registered:

Code:
1        4        9        11
16        20        22        25
27        33        38        40
45        47        48        49
59        60        65        66
67        69        70        71
74        75        79        85
86        87        88        93
100        108        111        118
120        121        122        125
126        128        133        135
138        148        151        155
159        166        168        173
174        175        176        177
179        180        184        190
191        192        195        201
203        204        207        211
217        223        224        226
228        229        231        233
234        236        237        245
247        254        269        271
279        280        291        292
295        302        304        308
312        322        326        330
337        340        341        343
346        348        354        357
358        359        365        375
378        384        386        395
397        399        401        405
406        418        433        435
440        444        447        451
461        462        468        469
476        486        488        492
494        499        503        514
519        525        527        537
538        540        546        547
555        563        573        581
585        610        612        614
647        650        662        665
686        710        714        716
752        753        766        768
803        809        812        815
816        830        836        842
846        852        862        865
868        869        888        896
900        904        922        928
935        945        967        968
971        973        980        987
989        999        1002        1006
1014        1023        1024        1033
1038        1057        1089        1102
1103        1108        1114        1124
1126        1138        1155        1184
1187        1188        1241        1250
1251        1261        1262        1266
1270        1272        1276        1279
1280        1281        1289        1302
1305        1306        1319        1323
1324        1350        1366        1367
1368        1379        1390        1394
1402        1403        1414        1421
1425        1448        1450        1452
1481        1482        1492        1502
1503        1506        1508        1511
1519        1523        1538        1539
1541        1547        1549        1560
1563        1567        1568        1574
1577        1592        1595        1598
1601        1604        1610        1616
1617        1625        1626        1629
1646        1649        1654        1655
1657        1662        1675        1680
1685        1700        1714        1717
1718        1719        1723        1726
1727        1730        1743        1746
1747        1756        1761        1778
1784        1807        1810        1814
1816        1834        1846        1868
1880        1885        1887        1897
1902        1906        1918        1922
1941        1942        1977

With 336 teams (323 registered and 13 pending):

Code:
1        4        9        11
16        20        22        25
27        33        38        40
45        47        48        49
59        60        65        66
67        69        70        71
74        75        79        85
86        87        88        93
100        103        108        111
118        120        121        122
125        126        128        133
135        138        148        151
155        159        166        168
173        174        175        176
177        179        180        184
190        191        192        195
201        203        204        207
211        217        223        224
226        228        229        231
233        234        236        237
245        247        254        269
271        279        280        291
292        294        295        296
302        304        306        308
312        322        326        330
337        340        341        343
346        348        354        357
358        359        365        375
378        383        384        386
395        397        399        401
405        406        418        433
435        440        444        447
451        461        462        468
469        476        481        486
488        492        494        499
503        514        519        525
527        537        538        540
546        547        555        563
573        581        585        610
612        614        647        650
662        665        686        710
714        716        752        753
766        768        772        803
809        812        815        816
830        836        842        846
852        862        865        868
869        888        896        900
904        922        926        928
935        945        967        968
971        973        980        987
989        999        1002        1006
1014        1023        1024        1033
1038        1057        1089        1102
1103        1108        1114        1124
1126        1138        1139        1155
1158        1184        1187        1188
1241        1250        1251        1261
1262        1266        1270        1272
1276        1279        1280        1281
1289        1302        1305        1306
1319        1323        1324        1350
1366        1367        1368        1379
1390        1394        1398        1402
1403        1414        1421        1425
1448        1450        1452        1481
1482        1492        1502        1503
1506        1508        1511        1519
1523        1538        1539        1541
1547        1549        1560        1563
1567        1568        1574        1577
1592        1595        1598        1601
1604        1610        1616        1617
1625        1626        1629        1646
1649        1654        1655        1657
1662        1675        1680        1685
1700        1714        1717        1718
1719        1723        1726        1727
1730        1743        1745        1746
1747        1756        1761        1778
1784        1803        1807        1810
1814        1816        1834        1846
1868        1880        1885        1887
1897        1902        1906        1918
1922        1941        1942        1977

pyroslev 06-04-2006 16:44
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Four slots left officially.

(eight times since tuesday my divs have changed)

Nawaid Ladak 06-04-2006 17:36
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Hope that pending list isn't that bad.

You got 25,71 and 111 plus 987 in Newton
and two of the three triplets in Gallelao

yay, my division is gona be strong

GO BIG OR GO HOME

themagic8ball 07-04-2006 09:02
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
I don't know if this is a fluke on the first website or not but the team list for the championship is no longer ordered by team number. It appears it is in some random order and if you try to sort by team number it won't let you.

Zoheb N 07-04-2006 09:03
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by themagic8ball
I don't know if this is a fluke on the first website or not but the team list for the championship is no longer ordered by team number. It appears it is in some random order and if you try to sort by team number it won't let you.
once in a while the first website does that but it will fix itself in a little bit

Dylan 07-04-2006 12:12
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
When does FIRST release the official team division list?

Pat Fairbank 07-04-2006 12:21
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan
When does FIRST release the official team division list?
Last year it was released on the Monday of the week before the Championship. So I'm expecting it a week from this coming Monday, on April 17th.

DanDon 07-04-2006 14:15
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
With 339 teams (323 registered and 16 pending):

Code:
1        4        9        11
16        20        22        25
27        33        38        40
45        47        48        49
59        60        65        66
67        69        70        71
74        75        79        85
86        87        88        93
100        103        108        111
118        120        121        122
125        126        128        133
135        138        148        151
155        159        166        168
173        174        175        176
177        179        180        184
190        191        192        195
201        203        204        207
211        217        222        223
224        226        228        229
231        233        234        236
237        245        247        254
269        271        279        280
291        292        294        295
296        302        304        306
308        312        322        326
330        337        340        341
343        346        348        354
357        358        359        365
375        378        383        384
386        395        397        399
401        405        406        418
433        435        440        444
447        451        461        462
468        469        476        481
486        488        492        494
499        503        514        519
522        525        527        537
538        540        546        547
555        563        573        581
585        610        612        614
647        650        662        665
686        710        714        716
744        752        753        766
768        772        803        809
812        815        816        830
836        842        846        852
862        865        868        869
888        896        900        904
922        926        928        935
945        967        968        971
973        980        987        989
999        1002        1006        1014
1023        1024        1033        1038
1057        1089        1102        1103
1108        1114        1124        1126
1138        1139        1155        1158
1184        1187        1188        1241
1250        1251        1261        1262
1266        1270        1272        1276
1279        1280        1281        1289
1302        1305        1306        1319
1323        1324        1350        1366
1367        1368        1379        1390
1394        1398        1402        1403
1414        1421        1425        1448
1450        1452        1481        1482
1492        1502        1503        1506
1508        1511        1519        1523
1538        1539        1541        1547
1549        1560        1563        1567
1568        1574        1577        1592
1595        1598        1601        1604
1610        1616        1617        1625
1626        1629        1646        1649
1654        1655        1657        1662
1675        1680        1685        1700
1714        1717        1718        1719
1723        1726        1727        1730
1743        1745        1746        1747
1756        1761        1778        1784
1803        1807        1810        1814
1816        1834        1846        1868
1880        1885        1887        1897
1902        1906        1918        1922
1941        1942        1977

DanDon 07-04-2006 15:55
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
With 326 registered teams:
Code:
1        4        9        11
16        20        22        25
27        33        38        40
45        47        48        49
59        60        65        66
67        69        70        71
74        75        79        85
86        87        88        93
100        108        111        118
120        121        122        125
126        128        133        135
138        148        151        155
159        166        168        173
174        175        176        177
179        180        184        190
191        192        195        201
203        204        207        211
217        223        224        226
228        229        231        233
234        236        237        245
247        254        269        271
279        280        291        292
295        302        304        308
312        322        326        330
337        340        341        343
346        348        354        357
358        359        365        375
378        384        386        395
397        399        401        405
406        418        433        435
440        444        447        451
461        462        468        469
476        486        488        492
494        499        503        514
519        525        527        537
538        540        546        547
555        563        573        581
585        610        612        614
647        650        662        665
686        710        714        716
744        752        753        766
768        772        803        809
812        815        816        830
836        842        846        852
862        865        868        869
888        896        900        904
922        928        935        945
967        968        971        973
980        987        989        999
1002        1006        1014        1023
1024        1033        1038        1057
1089        1102        1103        1108
1114        1124        1126        1138
1155        1158        1184        1187
1188        1241        1250        1251
1261        1262        1266        1270
1272        1276        1279        1280
1281        1289        1302        1305
1306        1319        1323        1324
1350        1366        1367        1368
1379        1390        1394        1402
1403        1414        1421        1425
1448        1450        1452        1481
1482        1492        1502        1503
1506        1508        1511        1519
1523        1538        1539        1541
1547        1549        1560        1563
1567        1568        1574        1577
1592        1595        1598        1601
1604        1610        1616        1617
1625        1626        1629        1646
1649        1654        1655        1657
1662        1675        1680        1685
1700        1714        1717        1718
1719        1723        1726        1727
1730        1743        1746        1747
1756        1761        1778        1784
1807        1810        1814        1816
1834        1846        1868        1880
1885        1887        1897        1902
1906        1918        1922        1941
1942        1977

Chris Fultz 08-04-2006 20:07
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
A little bird told me 383 was going to be there (Regional Chairmans at Boston).

JJG13 09-04-2006 11:51
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
4 Attachment(s)
This should interest some peope...

I saw this thread about offensive power ranking and decided to generate the rankings for each of the four divisions.

The four attached files contain the offensive rating of all the teams (sorted by team number and rank) and the average offensive rating for the corresponding four divisions. The offensive power ranking does not perfectly show the true strength of a team but it does give an indication.

Newton (not suprisingly) has the highest average rating but it also has the highest number of unrated teams. Galileo is the weakest division according to the average offensive rating.

Chaychay 10-04-2006 00:11
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
As much as all this data is awesome, please use it with caution. If the data from the currently unrecorded regionals came through I think a lot would change.

I do appreciate everyone putting this data together! - but just keep in mind that a lot of teams do a lot better after their first regional (at least in our case)...and the biggest regional on the planet (GTA) is unrecorded.

$0.02 :rolleyes:

Kris Verdeyen 10-04-2006 14:02
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Interesting thing (stop me if you've heard this one) - if you go to last year's championship page on first's website:

http://www.usfirst.org/robotics/2005/chevents.htm

And click on the pages with the listings for the divisions, you'll see a list of teams, including some with numbers in the 1900's. I may be mistaken, but I think that new teams this year have numbers over 1750 or so, leading me to believe that, even if they are still in flux, the official FIRST division lists are up!

Of course, I could be wrong, it could be some weird internet fluke.

Peter Matteson 10-04-2006 14:12
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris Verdeyen
Interesting thing (stop me if you've heard this one) - if you go to last year's championship page on first's website:

http://www.usfirst.org/robotics/2005/chevents.htm

And click on the pages with the listings for the divisions, you'll see a list of teams, including some with numbers in the 1900's. I may be mistaken, but I think that new teams this year have numbers over 1750 or so, leading me to believe that, even if they are still in flux, the official FIRST division lists are up!

Of course, I could be wrong, it could be some weird internet fluke.
Well my team didn't go last year and is listed. Also it has this years dates!

savage301 10-04-2006 14:18
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris Verdeyen
Interesting thing (stop me if you've heard this one) - if you go to last year's championship page on first's website:

http://www.usfirst.org/robotics/2005/chevents.htm

And click on the pages with the listings for the divisions, you'll see a list of teams, including some with numbers in the 1900's. I may be mistaken, but I think that new teams this year have numbers over 1750 or so, leading me to believe that, even if they are still in flux, the official FIRST division lists are up!

Of course, I could be wrong, it could be some weird internet fluke.
You may have something here. My team last year 301 was in Curie. In the team list it is no longer there. This means that the lists have been updated. Still according to FIRST deadline sheet final payments are not due until April 14, so more team could still be added and the list is probably not finalized yet.

George A. 10-04-2006 14:21
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
I definatly think that you have something there...because 11 was in Newton last year (which is the 2005 list) but that list has teams that weren't in our division yet...so I'm thinking those are the divisions...but like someone said before, we have to wait till registration closes until it's official...but good job on finding that!

Travis Hoffman 10-04-2006 14:24
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
4 Attachment(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzdconfusd
Well my team didn't go last year and is listed. Also it has this years dates!
Here are some quick spreadsheets. This "rumor" seems very plausible based upon what you see on the website, but you still can't count on it being 100% true. Great detective work, Kris! More to discuss!

pyroslev 10-04-2006 14:25
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
My team is right where they should be on div list. THey might be testing the setup.

They might be messing with us. Who knows with them sometimes. :)

330 Registered and 10 pending.

340 teams

Andy Baker 10-04-2006 14:35
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Good work, Kris.

Divisional assignments look to be ABCD... yawn.

Oh, well. If FIRST did it a different way, some teams would email/call and complain like this:

(say this in a good witch voice, like Carol Kane in the Princess Bride)

"You did ABCD division selection the last 2 years, and this year it is DIFFERENT!! Why did you do that to us? aaaahhh! I'm melting!"

No... no one ever does that to the Team Support folks at FIRST!


Andy B.

Pat McCarthy 10-04-2006 14:46
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Wow, awesome find, if this list holds true, 67 will move from Newton, where we've been since divisions started, to Archimedes; which looks to be a very competitive division as well! Too bad Sir Charles will probably be on Newton if he returns. :p

Tom Bottiglieri 10-04-2006 14:49
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Oh man.. all the divisions look pretty even. Curie and Gal look to have a little more horsepower behind them though.

But another thing.. none of the triplets are together and 25 fills the 4th division. This should be interesting.

111 + 1114 ?
Deadly or just downright confusing?!

Ricky Q. 10-04-2006 14:52
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri
Oh man.. all the divisions look pretty even. Curie and Gal look to have a little more horsepower behind them though.

But another thing.. none of the triplets are together and 25 fills the 4th division. This should be interesting.

111 + 1114 ?
Deadly or just downright confusing?!
Definetley deadly. I've seen them both apart, together would just be something spectacular.

Nawaid Ladak 10-04-2006 15:03
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
I found the REAL LIST!!!

go to last years championship page, click on one of the divisions team list, lool at the link for the sequence 2005, change it to 2006 and well....it's there, im saving the pages so first doesn't decide all of a sudden to take them off.

Pat McCarthy 10-04-2006 15:08
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreedomForce
I found the REAL LIST!!!

go to last years championship page, click on one of the divisions team list, lool at the link for the sequence 2005, change it to 2006 and well....it's there, im saving the pages so first doesn't decide all of a sudden to take them off.
Sorry to let you down, but it has already been found and posted eariler today.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...&postcount=173

Mr.G 10-04-2006 15:10
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreedomForce
I found the REAL LIST!!!

go to last years championship page, click on one of the divisions team list, lool at the link for the sequence 2005, change it to 2006 and well....it's there, im saving the pages so first doesn't decide all of a sudden to take them off.
You are 1 hour and 1 minute to late.

Rich Kressly 10-04-2006 15:11
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreedomForce
I found the REAL LIST!!!

go to last years championship page, click on one of the divisions team list, lool at the link for the sequence 2005, change it to 2006 and well....it's there, im saving the pages so first doesn't decide all of a sudden to take them off.
Be careful, there's a reason that FIRST hasn't posted publicly yet. This list will still change. I can guarantee there are a few very low numbers still in the pending area that can/will change things quite a bit.

natis 10-04-2006 15:17
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
1 Attachment(s)
Here are the divisions with 330 teams registered

Nawaid Ladak 10-04-2006 15:18
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich Kressly
Be careful, there's a reason that FIRST hasn't posted publicly yet. This list will still change. I can guarantee there are a few very low numbers still in the pending area that can/will change things quite a bit.
I understand, i just noticed that 1902 has registered for the event, but yet, i don't see them in any division, that was a preempted statement i just made, please ignore my last statement.

Thank you

Madison 10-04-2006 15:21
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat McCarthy
Sorry to let you down, but it has already been found and posted eariler today.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...&postcount=173

What he's saying is that, if you take the URL provided by the 'Team List' links on the 2005 Championship page -- say http://www.usfirst.org/frc/map/index...division=curie for example, and replace the 2005 variable with 2006, you'll see the 2006 division assignments.

They match what y'all found on the 2005 list, but they list the correct dates for the event as well.

Also, as Rich mentioned, as lower-numbered teams continue to register, the ABCD assignment scheme means that all of the teams after a given new registrant will shift one division.

Eugenia Gabrielov 10-04-2006 15:28
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by natis
Here are the divisions with 330 teams registered
You seem to be missing a big chunk of teams in the middle (about 133 to 280 is gone)

Joel J 10-04-2006 15:53
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Here are the divisions with the pending teams added in:
Code:
Arc        Cur        New        Gal
1        4        9        11
16        20        22        25
27        33        38        40
45        47        48        49
59        60        65        66
67        69        70        71
74        75        79        85
86        87        88        93
100        103        108        111
118        120        121        122
125        126        128        133
135        138        148        151
155        159        166        168
173        174        175        176
177        179        180        184
190        191        192        195
201        203        204        207
211        217        222        223
224        226        228        229
231        233        234        236
237        245        247        254
269        271        279        280
291        292        293        294
295        296        302        304
306        308        312        322
326        330        337        340
341        343        346        348
354        357        358        359
365        375        378        383
384        386        395        397
399        401        405        406
418        433        435        440
444        447        451        461
462        468        469        476
481        486        488        492
494        499        503        514
519        522        525        527
537        538        540        546
547        555        563        573
581        585        610        612
614        647        650        662
665        686        710        714
716        744        752        753
766        768        772        803
809        812        815        816
830        836        842        846
852        862        865        868
869        888        896        900
904        922        926        928
935        945        967        968
971        973        980        987
989        999        1002        1006
1014        1023        1024        1033
1038        1057        1089        1102
1103        1108        1114        1124
1126        1138        1139        1155
1158        1184        1187        1188
1241        1250        1251        1261
1262        1266        1270        1272
1276        1279        1280        1281
1289        1302        1305        1306
1319        1323        1324        1350
1366        1367        1368        1379
1390        1394        1398        1402
1403        1414        1421        1425
1448        1450        1452        1481
1482        1492        1502        1503
1506        1508        1511        1519
1523        1538        1539        1541
1547        1549        1560        1563
1567        1568        1574        1577
1592        1595        1598        1601
1604        1610        1616        1617
1625        1626        1629        1646
1649        1654        1655        1657
1662        1675        1680        1685
1700        1714        1717        1718
1719        1723        1726        1727
1730        1743        1745        1746
1747        1756        1761        1778
1784        1803        1807        1810
1814        1816        1834        1846
1868        1880        1885        1887
1897        1902        1906        1918
1922        1941        1942        1977
Look at Galileo!

Interesting alliances, if this goes through:

1114+469!
254+968, lol.
25+111,

etc.

Tom Bottiglieri 10-04-2006 16:05
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joel J.
Here are the divisions with the pending teams added in:
Code:
Arc        Cur        New        Gal
1        4        9        11
16        20        22        25
27        33        38        40
45        47        48        49
59        60        65        66
67        69        70        71
74        75        79        85
86        87        88        93
100        103        108        111
118        120        121        122
125        126        128        133
135        138        148        151
155        159        166        168
173        174        175        176
177        179        180        184
190        191        192        195
201        203        204        207
211        217        222        223
224        226        228        229
231        233        234        236
237        245        247        254
269        271        279        280
291        292        293        294
295        296        302        304
306        308        312        322
326        330        337        340
341        343        346        348
354        357        358        359
365        375        378        383
384        386        395        397
399        401        405        406
418        433        435        440
444        447        451        461
462        468        469        476
481        486        488        492
494        499        503        514
519        522        525        527
537        538        540        546
547        555        563        573
581        585        610        612
614        647        650        662
665        686        710        714
716        744        752        753
766        768        772        803
809        812        815        816
830        836        842        846
852        862        865        868
869        888        896        900
904        922        926        928
935        945        967        968
971        973        980        987
989        999        1002        1006
1014        1023        1024        1033
1038        1057        1089        1102
1103        1108        1114        1124
1126        1138        1139        1155
1158        1184        1187        1188
1241        1250        1251        1261
1262        1266        1270        1272
1276        1279        1280        1281
1289        1302        1305        1306
1319        1323        1324        1350
1366        1367        1368        1379
1390        1394        1398        1402
1403        1414        1421        1425
1448        1450        1452        1481
1482        1492        1502        1503
1506        1508        1511        1519
1523        1538        1539        1541
1547        1549        1560        1563
1567        1568        1574        1577
1592        1595        1598        1601
1604        1610        1616        1617
1625        1626        1629        1646
1649        1654        1655        1657
1662        1675        1680        1685
1700        1714        1717        1718
1719        1723        1726        1727
1730        1743        1745        1746
1747        1756        1761        1778
1784        1803        1807        1810
1814        1816        1834        1846
1868        1880        1885        1887
1897        1902        1906        1918
1922        1941        1942        1977
Hrm.. look at Galileo.

Umm, look at Galileo.

Like, dude...

Interesting alliances, if this goes through:

1114+469!
254+968, lol.
25+111,

etc.
I'm liking this. I'm liking this alot.

If so, this puts my team in great 2nd round position!

DanDon 10-04-2006 16:28
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
With 331 registered teams:

Code:
1        4        9        11
16        20        22        25
27        33        38        40
45        47        48        49
59        60        65        66
67        69        70        71
74        75        79        85
86        87        88        93
100        108        111        118
120        121        122        125
126        128        133        135
138        148        151        155
159        166        168        173
174        175        176        177
179        180        184        190
191        192        195        201
203        204        207        211
217        222        223        224
226        228        229        231
233        234        236        237
245        247        254        269
271        279        280        291
292        293        294        295
296        302        304        306
308        312        322        326
330        337        340        341
343        346        348        354
357        358        359        365
375        378        384        386
395        397        399        401
405        406        418        433
435        440        444        447
451        461        462        468
469        476        486        488
492        494        499        503
514        519        525        527
537        538        540        546
547        555        563        573
581        585        610        612
614        647        650        662
665        686        710        714
716        744        752        753
766        768        772        803
809        812        815        816
830        836        842        846
852        862        865        868
869        888        896        900
904        922        928        935
945        967        968        971
973        980        987        989
999        1002        1006        1014
1023        1024        1033        1038
1057        1089        1102        1103
1108        1114        1124        1126
1138        1155        1158        1184
1187        1188        1241        1250
1251        1261        1262        1266
1270        1272        1276        1279
1280        1281        1289        1302
1305        1306        1319        1323
1324        1350        1366        1367
1368        1379        1390        1394
1402        1403        1414        1421
1425        1448        1450        1452
1481        1482        1492        1502
1503        1506        1508        1511
1519        1523        1538        1539
1541        1547        1549        1560
1563        1567        1568        1574
1577        1592        1595        1598
1601        1604        1610        1616
1617        1625        1626        1629
1646        1649        1654        1655
1657        1662        1675        1680
1685        1700        1714        1717
1718        1719        1723        1726
1727        1730        1743        1746
1747        1756        1761        1778
1784        1807        1810        1814
1816        1834        1846        1868
1880        1885        1887        1897
1902        1906        1918        1922
1941        1942        1977

dez250 10-04-2006 17:52
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Like Rich said, much of this will still change, looking at the lists on the FIRST site now are as good as looking at the lists people have posted here. Expect the Actual Division lists to be finalized and Publicly released in about a week.

Aren_Hill 10-04-2006 18:06
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
does anybody know when the actual final they'll never change anymore divisions come out? i would really like to know

Eugenia Gabrielov 10-04-2006 18:12
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gear
does anybody know when the actual final they'll never change anymore divisions come out? i would really like to know
That's a good question - here's what I think happens...
Last year when I pitscouted, there were some teams that did seem out of place. it seems they let them in somehow, but they get put wherever there's room. That's the way it appeared at least.

Laura 1547 10-04-2006 18:40
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gear
does anybody know when the actual final they'll never change anymore divisions come out? i would really like to know
I think they come out on monday

Joel J 10-04-2006 19:06
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Automation..

1. Open up FIRST's list of championship attendees.
2. Ctrl+a (select all)
3. Ctrl+c (copy)
4. open up http://www.joelster.com/divs.php
5. Ctrl+v (paste) into the text box.

I just whipped it up (and made it look pretty), so I could mess around with a few options. If you ctrl+end while the cursor is in the text box, you can delete some (or all) of the pending teams manually, to see how their presence (or non-presence) affects the divisions.

Its just for fun.. FIRST could end up not bothering with the 1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4 , which is what the script assumes is the order of Division drafts.

StephLee 10-04-2006 22:34
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joel J.
Automation..

1. Open up FIRST's list of championship attendees.
2. Ctrl+a (select all)
3. Ctrl+c (copy)
4. open up http://www.joelster.com/divs.php
5. Ctrl+v (paste) into the text box.

I just whipped it up (and made it look pretty), so I could mess around with a few options. If you ctrl+end while the cursor is in the text box, you can delete some (or all) of the pending teams manually, to see how their presence (or non-presence) affects the divisions.

Its just for fun.. FIRST could end up not bothering with the 1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4 , which is what the script assumes is the order of Division drafts.
This is pretty sweet...what do the colors and bolds mean? It gave me red, green, and black bolds for different numbers.

Dan Richardson 10-04-2006 23:15
Re: 2006 Championship Divisions
 
Yeah the numbers are confusing me as well, without actually checking through all the regionals it looks like teams that were in finals or won regionals, or multiple regionals...

not sure tho.


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