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CourtneyB 01-03-2006 09:35

Re: Imagine: The Next Year's Challenge Unveiled at Championship Closing Ceremonies
 
When do they usually figure out the next years game?

Alan Anderson 01-03-2006 10:16

Re: Imagine: The Next Year's Challenge Unveiled at Championship Closing Ceremonies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CourtneyB
When do they usually figure out the next years game?

I don't know about "them", but I usually figure out a game sometime around mid-day on Saturday at the Championship event.

Nawaid Ladak 01-03-2006 14:13

Re: Imagine: The Next Year's Challenge Unveiled at Championship Closing Ceremonies
 
why not do simething like this.

First saturday in August: Kickoff event

8 week period to build robot

Ship Date early October. with fix it windows until December and animation/charimans award etc due in December.

Regionals begin in January

10 Week period for regionals, therefore more scouting and team building is possible.

Championship: Late April, as always


This way, you get everything, a FIRST off-season, a reasonable build season. time for Animation etc. to do their thing...therefore, having more hands working on the bot. more weeks of regional action, so that scouting is more possible. and have the championship event where it belongs. One thing that would change in my little perfect world. Championship event would be called CHAMPIONSHIP WEEK, starting on monday and ending on saturday. (we need more matches and more room if we are going to grow. the georgia dome can't be our home forever. we need to build a custom FIRST stadium. in Manchester to go along with FIRST Place and the Hall Of Fame.) I can imagine 100,000 people in that stadium, and see millions watching around the world, because, this plan would give more time to Robotics and the Media to expose it.

btw. who needs the superbowl...it's now in april....and in ATL
Pepsi. please invest the 2.5 Million you wasted for that 30 second frame over here, cuz dis b da new $h1+

Andy Grady 01-03-2006 16:41

Re: Imagine: The Next Year's Challenge Unveiled at Championship Closing Ceremonies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dlavery
Unnhhmmm. No. Just "No."

The biggest problem with this idea - the game for next year would actually have to be designed during this year's robot build/competition season, which is already so massively overloaded that it would never get done. But trying to get it finished would cause the GDC members to undrgo an even more severe mental meltdown than they already do. And it would mean that the entire period between Halloween and New Years Day would suddenly be empty on my calendar. And trust me, the very last thing you want to see is me with time on my hands and access to power tools. So, it ain't going to happen.

Lucien, I am SO going to sick Malcolm on you for even thinking of this! :)

-dave

Dave,

I have an easy solution for you...

Second GDC!

Two game design committees for two competition games...hell, I'll volunteer! ;)

irishninja 02-03-2006 18:06

Re: Imagine: The Next Year's Challenge Unveiled at Championship Closing Ceremonies
 
If they annouce anything annouce the VEX and then have VEX final competitions on kickoff. Kickoff is a party on my team. Absolutely everyone brings their entire family and lots of food and as soon as we see the game we go eat and discuss and then we all pile into a calssroom and have an organized discussion. I wouldn't want to take that away for antyhing,

Simon Strauss 02-03-2006 21:59

Re: Imagine: The Next Year's Challenge Unveiled at Championship Closing Ceremonies
 
although i completely agree with Dave on the answer of NO, this crazy idea of yours did get me thinking, what if the game were given maybe a week or so before teams received the KOP (then 6 build weeks of course). My reasoning for thinking that this might be beneficial is because not only would it preserve the excitement of crunch time in build, it would also greatly minimize what i see as the greatest fault of my team and I'm sure many others, a lack of planning and a proper design phase. It would allow for teams like mine who are usually way to unprepared and short handed to CAD, inventor or even fully plan out a robot before we build it the time to do so, knowing the game and pieces usable in the bot then the traditional six weeks of insomnia.

Dan Petrovic 02-03-2006 22:11

Re: Imagine: The Next Year's Challenge Unveiled at Championship Closing Ceremonies
 
I like the idea, but at the same time I don't.

Everyone needs a break. Even from FIRST. Build Season is clearly the most stressful time of the year for serious FIRSTers. Only having one a year would also give time for mini competitions.

I do count down the days until kickoff. By the time I start doing so it's already September/October and there's no time for anything.

The year simply isn't long enough

Eugenia Gabrielov 02-03-2006 22:43

Re: Imagine: The Next Year's Challenge Unveiled at Championship Closing Ceremonies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FreedomForce
why not do simething like this.

First saturday in August: Kickoff event

8 week period to build robot

Ship Date early October. with fix it windows until December and animation/charimans award etc due in December.

Regionals begin in January

10 Week period for regionals, therefore more scouting and team building is possible.

Championship: Late April, as always

I think you have good intentions here :). However, may I recommend a variation in your plan? Make Championships earlier. We don't need a 10 week period for regionals - part of the excitement is seeing your friends. This year, ATL falls on the exam weeks of many universities. Many teams with college students as mentors might have trouble with this.

Pavan Dave 02-03-2006 22:55

Re: Imagine: The Next Year's Challenge Unveiled at Championship Closing Ceremonies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FreedomForce
why not do simething like this.

First saturday in August: Kickoff event

8 week period to build robot

Ship Date early October. with fix it windows until December and animation/charimans award etc due in December.

Regionals begin in January

10 Week period for regionals, therefore more scouting and team building is possible.

Championship: Late April, as always

This way, you get everything, a FIRST off-season, a reasonable build season. time for Animation etc. to do their thing...therefore, having more hands working on the bot. more weeks of regional action, so that scouting is more possible. and have the championship event where it belongs. One thing that would change in my little perfect world. Championship event would be called CHAMPIONSHIP WEEK, starting on monday and ending on saturday. (we need more matches and more room if we are going to grow. the georgia dome can't be our home forever. we need to build a custom FIRST stadium. in Manchester to go along with FIRST Place and the Hall Of Fame.) I can imagine 100,000 people in that stadium, and see millions watching around the world, because, this plan would give more time to Robotics and the Media to expose it.

Actually IM up for this idea. I like the main fact that we have more time and its during a less key season of the school year although marching band takes up alot of time, I think this is a great idea.

I also am up with a summer event for FIRST. A competition on a lower scale with less materials and more limitations that is as intensive but is more lighter on the wallet for some of the other teams I have been talking with on AIM. Also it would give people something to due during the summer, and since most people are not doing anything anyways it would allow more participation and a greater outreach of engineering and science.

-Pavan

devicenull 03-03-2006 18:23

Re: Imagine: The Next Year's Challenge Unveiled at Championship Closing Ceremonies
 
We have enough problems getting people to show up for 6 weeks.

Also, no one has mentioned the fact it would be very, very difficult for people to get into schools over the summer.

A large part of the fun is doing everything in 6 weeks... Sorry, I'd prefer not longer seasons.


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