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Steve S. 04-03-2006 19:18
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Just a thought:

How about creating NY FIRST (New York FIRST)? What would this do and what would be its purpose? (general)

1. To Bring together all New York Teams
2. To educate the public about FIRST and teach its mission
3. To help start new FIRST teams (FLL, FVC or FRC)
4. To help struggling teams still be able to participate
5. To create a better FIRST experience

What things would be done? (examples)

1. NY wide fundraising for teams
2. To create more Regionals and off/pre season events
3. A place to help FIRST students get internships

In case you couldnt figure it out, this would be for NY teams, whether it be FRC, FLL or FVC teams.
This would help expand FIRST to those School Districts that may not have the neccesary resources to create teams.


What are your thoughts on this?
(more info will be posted soon)
More info can be obtained by emailing 1591.FIRST@gmail.com

This would most likely be run by Rochester Area Teams (because my team is located in rochester and would be easier to run working with local teams) but i would like reps. from around NY (at least one from every team)

Info will be available at NYFIRST.team1591.com soon (this is not a site yet) i will post when this site is up

PS: this is an idea from my head, not from my team, do not contact them about it only me!

Alex Cormier 04-03-2006 22:31
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What a great idea, get it going and im sure i'd help any way i could! Let's go NY let's go!

We have to have some bot here in NY that will dethrown that NJ 25 bot. :p

Steve S. 04-03-2006 22:33
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im working on the first NY FIRST manual/info book

YonZ 04-03-2006 22:38
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Awesome idea, can't wait to join!

Steve S. 04-03-2006 22:40
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an idea may be to get some sponsors of the NY FIRST and use the funding to help start new teams and struggling ones

Steve S. 05-03-2006 00:39
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Handbook Available!!!
http://www.team1591.com/NYFIRST.pdf

Simon Strauss 05-03-2006 11:11
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I'm game just pm me with the info.

Tim Delles 05-03-2006 11:16
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If you are really thinking about doing this I would also suggest talking to Karthik and seeing how a smaller group of teams work together. (i.e. NiagaraFIRST)

KenWittlief 05-03-2006 13:27
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FIRST is a registered trademark. Before you start an orginazation with "FIRST" in the name you will have to look into the legal aspects of using the name and the logo.

I know everyone in this thread is on the up&up, but imagine if some scammers started an organizition called WhateverFIRST and began fundraising....

you get the idea, FIRST has to protect their name and trademark.

Im not a lawyer, but I think at the minimum you would have to get a letter of permission from FIRST

Steve S. 05-03-2006 15:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KenWittlief
FIRST is a registered trademark. Before you start an orginazation with "FIRST" in the name you will have to look into the legal aspects of using the name and the logo.

I know everyone in this thread is on the up&up, but imagine if some scammers started an organizition called WhateverFIRST and began fundraising....

you get the idea, FIRST has to protect their name and trademark.

Im not a lawyer, but I think at the minimum you would have to get a letter of permission from FIRST
Yeah, i know that......right now we are just talking about it

edit: i have contacted/ emailed FIRST about this.....


and FYI: we need someone to help with the website design!!

Steve S. 05-03-2006 21:11
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Yeah, i know i should just edit the last post (people tend not to read long posts)

The Flyer for FLR has been made and can be found here:

NY FIRST FLYER

Ianworld 05-03-2006 21:32
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Not to be opposed to what looks like could be a great organization but I think there is a large divide between the New York City teams and the teams outside the city. Every year the NYC regional is dominated by basically just NYC teams. This is due in part to the size of the regional in relation to the number of NYC teams (33 open slots for about 30 NYC teams) and fact that many NYC schools aren't as well funded or as well equipped as non-city teams. My school is lucky in that we have a real machine shop to work in, not a large one but its all we need. Many teams in NYC don't even have the resources of a drill press or a band saw. Along those lines the majority of NYC teams never get a chance to participate in a regional outside of NYC. The world of FIRST to many of these teams is quite small and local. So while I support the creation of such an organization as NY FIRST I think it would be more beneficial for the teams in NYC to band together in a similar organization albeit on the scale of just the city. The logistics of such an organization of course needs to be spearheaded by a team and it wouldn't be an easy task.

That being said 694 has had the chances and the resources to attend many regionals outside of NYC and attend the nationals multiple times. The scope of our FIRST world is such that an organization that affects NY teams outside the city would affect us. Joining an organization such as this in our case would make sense.

Just trying to shed some light on the nature of FIRST in New York City.

Steve S. 05-03-2006 21:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ianworld
Not to be opposed to what looks like could be a great organization but I think there is a large divide between the New York City teams and the teams outside the city. Every year the NYC regional is dominated by basically just NYC teams. This is due in part to the size of the regional in relation to the number of NYC teams (33 open slots for about 30 NYC teams) and fact that many NYC schools aren't as well funded or as well equipped as non-city teams. My school is lucky in that we have a real machine shop to work in, not a large one but its all we need. Many teams in NYC don't even have the resources of a drill press or a band saw. Along those lines the majority of NYC teams never get a chance to participate in a regional outside of NYC. The world of FIRST to many of these teams is quite small and local. So while I support the creation of such an organization as NY FIRST I think it would be more beneficial for the teams in NYC to band together in a similar organization albeit on the scale of just the city. The logistics of such an organization of course needs to be spearheaded by a team and it wouldn't be an easy task.

That being said 694 has had the chances and the resources to attend many regionals outside of NYC and attend the nationals multiple times. The scope of our FIRST world is such that an organization that affects NY teams outside the city would affect us. Joining an organization such as this in our case would make sense.

Just trying to shed some light on the nature of FIRST in New York City.
Part of NY FIRST will be to help the less privileged teams get more funding and be able to go to other regionals. (read the handbook)

Koko Ed 05-03-2006 21:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ianworld
Not to be opposed to what looks like could be a great organization but I think there is a large divide between the New York City teams and the teams outside the city. Every year the NYC regional is dominated by basically just NYC teams. This is due in part to the size of the regional in relation to the number of NYC teams (33 open slots for about 30 NYC teams) and fact that many NYC schools aren't as well funded or as well equipped as non-city teams. My school is lucky in that we have a real machine shop to work in, not a large one but its all we need. Many teams in NYC don't even have the resources of a drill press or a band saw. Along those lines the majority of NYC teams never get a chance to participate in a regional outside of NYC. The world of FIRST to many of these teams is quite small and local. So while I support the creation of such an organization as NY FIRST I think it would be more beneficial for the teams in NYC to band together in a similar organization albeit on the scale of just the city. The logistics of such an organization of course needs to be spearheaded by a team and it wouldn't be an easy task.

That being said 694 has had the chances and the resources to attend many regionals outside of NYC and attend the nationals multiple times. The scope of our FIRST world is such that an organization that affects NY teams outside the city would affect us. Joining an organization such as this in our case would make sense.

Just trying to shed some light on the nature of FIRST in New York City.
Yeah that is about how NY is. NYC FIRST is pretty much teams going to the twoNY regionals mostly and the Upstate teams are usually stronger teams that are more active in International FIRST. So it's like two whole different worlds on the opposite sides of the state (most of the upstate teams are in Western NY) and there is no feasible way for the teams to get together regualrly to work together. A NYC FIRST (which I think there already is) and an Upstate NY FIRST may be a better idea.

TheNotoriousKid 05-03-2006 21:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Cormier
What a great idea, get it going and im sure i'd help any way i could! Let's go NY let's go!

We have to have some bot here in NY that will dethrown that NJ 25 bot. :p
You can try but we have already put in our minds dat we are coming back stronger and more mature

Steve S. 06-03-2006 11:13
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Check out the website:
New York FIRST

Tim Delles 06-03-2006 11:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed
Yeah that is about how NY is. NYC FIRST is pretty much teams going to the twoNY regionals mostly and the Upstate teams are usually stronger teams that are more active in International FIRST. So it's like two whole different worlds on the opposite sides of the state (most of the upstate teams are in Western NY) and there is no feasible way for the teams to get together regualrly to work together. A NYC FIRST (which I think there already is) and an Upstate NY FIRST may be a better idea.

Jeesh Ed, you call where you guys are upstate?? Have you ever been to The Frozen Tundra(aka Potsdam) :P.

Okay so you are seriously doing this. I would agree with Ed. There is already a Rochester FIRST group. Also try to get a main sponsor for this, such as NiagraFIRST has thier main sponsor. Good luck.

irishninja 06-03-2006 12:32
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I think that its a great idea. Agree with Ian that maybe not good for teams outside the city, but it would be a way to help out disadvantaged teams all at once, instead of one at a time and not getting them all.

Rich Wong 06-03-2006 13:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by team1591
Check out the website:
New York FIRST
It's an excellent start! :cool:
Remember, there are also a number of teams in the Albany area too. That region is slowly growing.
The Long Island, NY area has numerous FRC teams that are very strong and competitive. And all the Directors of the NYS regionals (Rochester, NYC, Long Island) in all know each other! So why not the teams too.

Your effort to tie the whole state together will definitely make all the NYS teams stronger. Many NYC teams already attend the Long Island Regionals which they call their home regional. I can see NYC teams travelling to Rochester too (there are a lot of colleges up (North) there that do attract many FRC students).

And don't forget the FLL members, they are your future FRC resources. :]

Martinez 06-03-2006 13:21
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Looks real nice. More communication is always a good thing.

Tim, every thing north of City is considered Upstate. Happened all the time living in Rome which is near the geographical middle of New York. We called it Central, everyone else called it Upstate. Shesh. :yikes:

There DEFINATELY need to be more teams in the middle ground between City and Rochester. You all know I'm working on that.

nuggetsyl 06-03-2006 13:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Cormier
What a great idea, get it going and im sure i'd help any way i could! Let's go NY let's go!

We have to have some bot here in NY that will dethrown that NJ 25 bot. :p
Can our team help dethrown 25 ;)

shaun

Koko Ed 08-03-2006 06:02
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Originally Posted by team1591
Just a thought:

How about creating NY FIRST (New York FIRST)? What would this do and what would be its purpose? (general)

1. To Bring together all New York Teams
2. To educate the public about FIRST and teach its mission
3. To help start new FIRST teams (FLL, FVC or FRC)
4. To help struggling teams still be able to participate
5. To create a better FIRST experience

What things would be done? (examples)

1. NY wide fundraising for teams
2. To create more Regionals and off/pre season events
3. A place to help FIRST students get internships

In case you couldnt figure it out, this would be for NY teams, whether it be FRC, FLL or FVC teams.
This would help expand FIRST to those School Districts that may not have the neccesary resources to create teams.


What are your thoughts on this?
(more info will be posted soon)
More info can be obtained by emailing 1591.FIRST@gmail.com

This would most likely be run by Rochester Area Teams (because my team is located in rochester and would be easier to run working with local teams) but i would like reps. from around NY (at least one from every team)

Info will be available at NYFIRST.team1591.com soon (this is not a site yet) i will post when this site is up

PS: this is an idea from my head, not from my team, do not contact them about it only me!
Here is the logo design you asked for.
Now, before you have a fit let me explain: While it is admirable that you have this ambitious plan for NY FIRST I think you may be biting off more than you can chew.
I do not think NY City FIRST needs our assistance. They have things well under control as does Rochester FIRST but the rest of the state could use our help. Buffalo, Syracuse and Albany are under represented and Binghamton and Utica don't even have teams. That is where our focus should be.

Steve S. 08-03-2006 06:03
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well, all the talk of NYC not being involved is confusing. If the teams that have the resources and funds want to be involved they can.......just to put that out there

Steve S. 08-03-2006 06:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed
Here is the logo design you asked for.
Now, before you have a fit let me explain: While it is admirable that you have this ambitious plan for NY FIRST I think you may be biting off more than you can chew.
I do not think NY City FIRST needs our assistance. They have things well under control as does Rochester FIRST but the rest of the state could use our help. Buffalo, Syracuse and Albany are under represented and Binghamton and Utica don't even have teams. That is where our focus should be.
thanks for the logo ed

Steve S. 08-03-2006 06:38
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Anyone that has some time today, i could use some help adding stuff to the site. just PM me.

(its very easy to add stuff)

Martinez 08-03-2006 10:04
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Any plans about holding a meeting at FLR? At the very least it would be a good chance to network your idea. Maybe say over the lunch breaks or a few minutes at the day's end. I will be there Thursday morning so feel free to look me up.

Steve S. 08-03-2006 10:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinez
Any plans about holding a meeting at FLR? At the very least it would be a good chance to network your idea. Maybe say over the lunch breaks or a few minutes at the day's end. I will be there Thursday morning so feel free to look me up.
hey, your from chuck...we flipped your bot last year at FLR :)

Im not sure, i have flyers to be given out (i could use some help)
Ill PM you

KenWittlief 08-03-2006 10:43
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the Buffalo area definately needs help. We achieved a milestone this year, the 1st Buffalo area team ever (team 1765: ERIE 1 BOCES from Cheetowaga!).

Its a start - there are about 20 other high schools in Erie County (Buffalo and its suburbs).

(the nearest team to Buffalo before this year is Lockport/Delphi)

Koko Ed 08-03-2006 15:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KenWittlief
the Buffalo area definately needs help. We achieved a milestone this year, the 1st Buffalo area team ever (team 1765: ERIE 1 BOCES from Cheetowaga!).

Its a start - there are about 20 other high schools in Erie County (Buffalo and its suburbs).

(the nearest team to Buffalo before this year is Lockport/Delphi)
I always thought that Lockport and NEwfane were part of the Buffalo area.

Joohoo 08-03-2006 18:47
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I think that this is a great idea but that the hand book is a little too broad maybe you should aim for one area like buffalo and then go to the next area. just so it would be managable

Steve S. 17-04-2006 12:09
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Well, no posts in a while.....

The website is getting updated a bit and has all available documents on it. Everything on the site is finally working and we also have an affiliates page up.
Current Affiliates are:

ChiefDelphi
MAVERICKs
IndianaFIRST
(more to come, just pm me if interested, teams are welcome)

In case you dont know the site, its at http://www.newyorkfirst.org

Post your thoughts and comments :)

amos229 17-04-2006 21:52
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i definatly agree with this and a meeting should be held in atlanta for those going.

Steve S. 17-04-2006 22:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by amos229
i definatly agree with this and a meeting should be held in atlanta for those going.
well, my plan for going fell through....so unless i can travel with another team.....no meeting

JVGazeley 18-04-2006 08:01
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Ok, nice idea. However is this aimed just at teams in NY or teams which attend regionals in NY?

We are a regular at the NYC Regional and have been for 5 years now.

Steve S. 18-04-2006 09:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JVGazeley
Ok, nice idea. However is this aimed just at teams in NY or teams which attend regionals in NY?

We are a regular at the NYC Regional and have been for 5 years now.
well, right now we are gonna aim at teams in NY, but we may expand in the future, just keep up-to-date on this by checking the website at www.newyorkfirst.org

Tetraman 18-04-2006 16:59
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It will take lots of good ideas, but once Team 174 is up and active with something, we maintain it well. I read how it might be nice to get more Regionals in New York...Well the Carrier Dome in Syracuse (where the Syracuse Orange Bball and Fball teams play) is in the center of New York, and bringing a robotics regional there would be awesome. As well as a Robotics team, which I have heard might be in the works, but I can't tell exactly. There are many High Schools around Syracuse, and gettting teams there would be great. We tried before, but lack of interest broght down the team we helped. I can't say "we will", but the more info you can send my team, the more apt we are to partisipate. PM me.

Steve S. 18-04-2006 17:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetraman
It will take lots of good ideas, but once Team 174 is up and active with something, we maintain it well. I read how it might be nice to get more Regionals in New York...Well the Carrier Dome in Syracuse (where the Syracuse Orange Bball and Fball teams play) is in the center of New York, and bringing a robotics regional there would be awesome. As well as a Robotics team, which I have heard might be in the works, but I can't tell exactly. There are many High Schools around Syracuse, and gettting teams there would be great. We tried before, but lack of interest broght down the team we helped. I can't say "we will", but the more info you can send my team, the more apt we are to participate. PM me.
as far as more regionals go, we are not going to do that. We dont want to draw teams away from the Finger Lakes Regional. What kind of info do you want? what we are doing? you can check our website at www.newyorkfirst.org and that has most of everything on it.

Steve S. 18-04-2006 22:43
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ATTENTION!! for those going to ATL....i want emails of those interested in this

firstrocks06 20-04-2006 00:47
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Im game....just pm me with info

firstrocks06 20-04-2006 00:48
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oh and you can email me at eaa14616@yahoo.com

Steve S. 05-05-2006 23:11
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We have another round of updates!!

Org Chart is up

Team Sponsor Application is Up

Problems to the about us page has made us remove the content temp


And a new NY FIRST Project:

Resource Center for teams, teams will each have so much space to store whatever files they may need to save, and programs like Easy C for FRC will be available (need own product key)


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