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There were a few things we took into account from what we have seen ourselves, and what others were telling us.
254-Solid Machine..obviously. Great. Fast. Skilled drivers. Good history. Can always trust them to know how to win. 968-Again. Fast. Incredible shooter. However, had less skilled drivers. Our thoughts. 254 had better drivers. 968 had a better robot. I knew of people on both teams I was friends with Cory McBride, and i knew he would give me the honest truth about his robot and his confidence. I also knew of Travis Covington on 968, and i had heard much about him that i liked. So either way, we were going to be good because we knew the teams would cooperate. The reason we wanted to choose 968 more was because they had a two ball wide collection system, while 254's wasnt as big. 968 also had an agitator in their base that allowed the balls to pass through easier. However, if 176 didnt use that strategy, we would have selected 254 because of their driver experience and the overall team experience. |
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I confess to not reading all the recent posts to this thread, and I didn't make it to championships. I did get the opportunity to see both 254 and 968 in regional tournaments and think that the 'bots were just about identical. The only difference I noted (before championships) is that 254's driving team was smoother, faster, and just looked more experienced. Both were great teams last year.
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I noticed that team 254 was shooting from the ground a lot and it didn't seem like something they were used to doing. Shooting from the ground took a lot of adjusting for them while 968 stuck to their strategy of ramp scoring.
You also have to remember that 254 has their national finalist reputation from last year (and not to mention their many regional victories/awards). This made them a huge target for anyone who faced them. I remember seeing them lose parts on the field because the defense against them was brutal. I am not too sure about 25 and 1503 though. They were both primarily hp fed robots. I know 1503 could pick up off the ground, but they generally stuck to their human load routine. I would have loved to see 25,111, and 195. That would have been an unbelievable trio to have to face. |
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968 was very successful at taking advantage of this. They were able to go on the ramp almost at will, as teams tried to double team 25 most of the time. We stopped scouting after we got eliminated, but I think you'd find that 968 scored more points than 25 throughout the elims, due to the above. |
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I have no problem not being the top dog in a first comp if it means we get a win. 968 was the big man on campus when it came to scoring points on our team. I do not know why teams came after us when 968 scored at least 60% of our teams points. In the semi final on the big field 968 unloaded 7 balls from the ground before any team got near them. I tip my hat to them.
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I remember, he even picked up 195 in a match, that was truly incredible. And to what Cory and Shaun said, its true. 968 was the workhorse of this alliance. We planned for everything to happen. We knew we would take on the double teams and every single defensive robot. But did we care? Definitely not, it was our plan to be a distraction. It couldnt have worked any better. All 3 bots in our group had their job, each executed perfectly. |
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25 was definately the best decoy I've ever seen, especially considering 25 still scored tons of points (last second volleys in just about every match during the eliminations). As for 254 and the ramp, at first it the Poofs didn't look as comfortable off of it, then they looked genius. During QF 2 on Newton, 229 waited on their own ramp for 254 to ramp up during every match, and in every match 254 lined up to shoot from the floor. 254's alliance partner, 71, also did the same thing (71's greatest damage was typically on top of the ramp as well). Their opponent, 229, while playing mostly defense, did score some points, and not from their usual spot on the ramp either. 365 on Galileo spent a vast majority of it's time on the ramp, but during the Galileo SFs, when 177 was camping the ramp defensively, 365 lined up from the floor and fired. 365, 71, 254, and 968 also all shot from the floor effectively during autonomous. The only two teams (that I can recall) that ONLY shot from the ramp at CMP were 222 and 1646, and that was because their designs actually would not allow them to shoot from anywhere else. At the Championship event, it was critical to be able to spread the defense out, making teams that religiously shot from the ramp often unfavorable, as they were easy to predict, and could cause alot of traffic around the base of the ramp (where teams often prefered to fire). The 296, 217, 522 alliance shows very well how an alliance could spread out a defense. 296 could fire from all the way off of the side of the ramp (almost in front of the corner goals), while 217 could shoot from in front or on top of the ramp, and 522 could shoot from about mid-field. During their offensive period, the 2 defensive bots had to chose which bots to defend, and especially considering 296 could use the ramp walls, and 217 both the walls and the slope, to make it more difficult for the defense to move them, and nearly impossible for the defense to block their shots, it made them a very very difficult alliance to stop. Thus why you saw 968 and 25 trying to outscore them in the 98-94 F-2 match. |
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ERV Team 204
MOE Team 365 Dawgma Team 1712 |
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From what i've seen, which...umm...isnt much...1126/SparX. They dominate. Ive discovered the "Thunderchickens", i have to give them credit for thier name and the fact that they won the freaking national championship. :yikes: :yikes:
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just out of curiosity, when you choose your top teams for this year what is it determined by, how well they did last year, or by the connections you've made with them, every year i see top team choices of the year, and ive always wondered how you all determine your choices:) thanks.
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Well I guess I'll be the first one to share this year, in no particular order.
1730 1114 67 234 85 868 1023 503 1015 868 |
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I wouldn't put much merit in them. They're just popularity threads really. |
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popularity?!?! i guess that could be fun, but whatever the Mississauga regional is in like 7 days and im soo excited, deffinetly going to be cheering for the teams that places second place with our team last year. Good luck everyone!
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Ok, so I've only gone to the Florida Regional, so I don't have a top 10, but I definitely have to say that 1270 was really good, and anyone that went to the Florida Regional knows that team 86 was great. ^_^
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This would be my top 10:
111 1114 118 25 254 75 71 118 175 195 Other notables: 1503, 296, 501, 330, 1126, 229, 217, ect.... (I could go on for a while) |
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501 did well in their first regional but had to switch drivers, so if they get their old drivers back they could be a serious force. 107 has a good double ramp and decent scoring capabilities, 111 has great scoring and a perhaps subpar ramp. 648 has good scoring capabilities and can push people around on defence if nessisary(also autonomous mode >.> <.< who me? Biased?). There was another team I think it was 1710 who was a very good scoring machine at the MWR, I could see them doing fairly well at nat'ls. Every one of these teams still have questions to answer before nationals.
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175 - Buzz Robotics:
Best robot at the BAE/Granite State Regional. 111 - Wildstang, 254 - the Cheesy Poofs, 25 - Raider Robotix, & 71 - Beatty: 4 teams that always build high quality robots. 45 - Technokats: K.I.S.S. at it's best (Go's along with their theme, now that I think about it...) 1501 - Team THRUST: See their video of all the bonus points they scored in the Boilermaker thread, they have an awesome lift system. 461 - Westside Boiler Invasion: Surprisingly great robot after graduating half of the team last year. 1747 - Harrison Robotics: Great team with little to no support from their high school. These are just my personal favorites. I'd have to expand this list alot to show all of the teams I think are capable of winning it all. |
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umm I would have to say
65 503 1038 123 68 33 254 1126 4 70 and thats not including us (66). |
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