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Tim Delles 21-09-2006 19:57

Re: Who are your top team picks this year?
 
Corey it is interesting that you have our alliance being divisional finalist in 2 of those scenarios.

Now here is the real scenario for you to do out. How would the pickings have been if we had a shooting Auto mode (I don't think we would have passed up 195 if we did)

Corey Balint 21-09-2006 20:54

Re: Who are your top team picks this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Delles
Corey it is interesting that you have our alliance being divisional finalist in 2 of those scenarios.

Now here is the real scenario for you to do out. How would the pickings have been if we had a shooting Auto mode (I don't think we would have passed up 195 if we did)

To the first. I do?
To the second. Itd mix up alotta things. But still teams out there to pick.

Tim Delles 22-09-2006 00:02

Re: Who are your top team picks this year?
 
nope sorry you are right corey. I thought it was odd, but I was looking at it wrong. my bad

Corey Balint 22-09-2006 11:55

Re: Who are your top team picks this year?
 
I came up with another idea sitting in my International Affairs Class, partly due to sean.

What would happen if 176 only threw the block on us...not 254, but then 987 took 254 instead of 1503.
Not really sure who 229 would pick though. Im gonna do both 968 and 71. It may not make too much of a difference...because i think 66 would take either one anyways. I know 66 would take 71, but Im not too sure they wouldve done 968.

176-111-294
987-254-1718
25-1503-195
229-71-85
66-968-868
133-322-397
1519-40-1646
122-93-11

1<8
2>7
3>6
4>5

4>8
2<3

3>4




176-111-294
987-254-1718
25-1503-195
229-968-868
66-71-85
133-322-397
1519-40-1646
122-93-11

1<8
2>7
3>6
4<5

5>8
2<3

3>5



176-111-1718
987-254-868
25-1503-195
229-71-85
66-93-968
133-322-397
1519-40-1646
122-93-11

1>8
2>7
3>6
4<5

1<5
2<3

3>5


And again, if you are on one of the said teams above, by all means, please respond.

Alex Cormier 22-09-2006 12:17

Re: Who are your top team picks this year?
 
yeah. i respond.






:p

BoyWithCape195 22-09-2006 12:27

Re: Who are your top team picks this year?
 
I think your overlooking 968 to much...I personally believe that 968 was stronger than 254 from my scouting at nationals.

Corey Balint 22-09-2006 12:34

Re: Who are your top team picks this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyWithCape195
I think your overlooking 968 to much...I personally believe that 968 was stronger than 254 from my scouting at nationals.

So do I. However, I know alot of other teams werent as optomistic about 968 and would lean towards 254, because well, they are 254.

Lil' Lavery 22-09-2006 17:34

Re: Who are your top team picks this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyWithCape195
I think your overlooking 968 to much...I personally believe that 968 was stronger than 254 from my scouting at nationals.

Now that the interesting part. I've heard from a few people now that 968 was ranked higher on their boards, or that team X had 968 higher than 254, etc.
Maybe it was just because I wasn't physically there, or because I didn't quite see all of the Newton matches, but I (and a few others I know of) thought that 254 had clearly seperated themselves from 968. I still had 968 ranked very high, but behind 254. 254 had a better record, and seemed to be doing much better during qualification than 968 was. The poofs driver seemed to be slightly faster to react, and had more skill evading defenders from what I saw.
Care to explain why you had 968 higher?

Dan Petrovic 22-09-2006 17:57

Re: Who are your top team picks this year?
 
Luck?

254 probably got stuck against good teams one match while 968 had an easier time.

Tom Bottiglieri 22-09-2006 18:35

Re: Who are your top team picks this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery
Care to explain why you had 968 higher?

968 was our #1 pick going in on Saturday. (Yes, higher than 111 and 25 and 254..) RAWC had a solid auto mode and seemed to hit shots from all over the field, while 254 had a sweet spot. Also it seemed like 968's hopper was able to pick up balls faster. Lastly, 968 and 254 were on the top of our list because of alliance dynamics. They could pick up from the floor or get human loaded, were very nimble, could shoot from the ramp, and could pick up balls faster than we could feed them into them.

Corey Balint 22-09-2006 18:35

Re: Who are your top team picks this year?
 
There were a few things we took into account from what we have seen ourselves, and what others were telling us.

254-Solid Machine..obviously. Great. Fast. Skilled drivers. Good history. Can always trust them to know how to win.
968-Again. Fast. Incredible shooter. However, had less skilled drivers.

Our thoughts. 254 had better drivers. 968 had a better robot.
I knew of people on both teams
I was friends with Cory McBride, and i knew he would give me the honest truth about his robot and his confidence.
I also knew of Travis Covington on 968, and i had heard much about him that i liked.
So either way, we were going to be good because we knew the teams would cooperate.

The reason we wanted to choose 968 more was because they had a two ball wide collection system, while 254's wasnt as big. 968 also had an agitator in their base that allowed the balls to pass through easier.

However, if 176 didnt use that strategy, we would have selected 254 because of their driver experience and the overall team experience.

Cory 22-09-2006 21:57

Re: Who are your top team picks this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by InfernoX14
Luck?

254 probably got stuck against good teams one match while 968 had an easier time.

Nope. We were 6-1. 968 was 4-3.

Dan Petrovic 22-09-2006 22:17

Re: Who are your top team picks this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cory
Nope. We were 6-1. 968 was 4-3.

Oh... I misread Lil Lavery's post thinking that he said that 254 was behind 968...

Lil' Lavery 23-09-2006 14:03

Re: Who are your top team picks this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by InfernoX14
Oh... I misread Lil Lavery's post thinking that he said that 254 was behind 968...

254 was "behind" 968 on some teams "pick lists", but seeding wise, 254 was far ahead of 968.

Corey Balint 23-09-2006 17:11

Re: Who are your top team picks this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery
254 was "behind" 968 on some teams "pick lists", but seeding wise, 254 was far ahead of 968.

We really werent sure how far they would fall. We thought if we were below 229 and 254 we had a shot in the dark at em...but we had to take em then, because they were the best available, and one of the best teams in the world anyways. Just werent sure if theyd be that under the radar because of the lower seeding.


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