Re: 2006 SBPLI Long Island Regional
 

S'alright. I'm probably missing some piece of this puzzle since I was injured, but yeah, we did try to bring this to the refferees' attention to have something done, but at that point the Autonomous problem was all that they were focusing on, which led to Match 5.

Re: 2006 SBPLI Long Island Regional
 

I believe that Greg was actually trying to allude to the goal incursion issue. I know (from personal experience with him) that he realizes that a team cannot call a DQ on their opponents. Any and all penalties given are done by the referees and the ref's at the SBPLI regional did quite a good job. There were a minimum of issues with the officiating. I feel that they did a good job despite being put in some tenous positions as a result of circumstances.

The main problems revolved around the field, scoring and seeding programs throughout the weekend. There were endless issues with qualifying match scheduling, lack of (read NO) seeding information until, literally 5 min before alliance selection and more "re-do's" than I have ever seen at any regional. Not to mention the fact that the top 8 seeds had to be "adjusted" after alliance selections had begun because a qualifying match had not been included in the original scoring tally and a team that should have been in the top 8 had been left out. Thankfully it did not affect the teams that had already selected but it did cause quite a bit of confusion at the event as virtually everyone including the selecting alliances were unaware of what was happening.

That being said......

Greg's team had a tremendous day establishing a new high water mark for the 1468 J-Birds and I know he's a trifle bit dissapointed at not winning a regional. However being a regional finalist is something to be content with for now as well as an incentive to bring your team's involvement and dedication up to the next level for the future.

The alliance of team 358, 271 & 870 did very, very well and they definitely knew that their opposing alliance of 1468, 353, 329 was there making them earn it all the way.

While I am not personally familiar with the folks on 870 I do know that they are unique in this locale for the community support they have been able to cultivate. I can tell you that Scott and Marc on 358 are excellent mentors and 358 should be proud that they have these folks in their corner. Team 271 and the "Bad Boyz" from Bay Shore also have excellent support from their mentors and community along with good teachers like Mr. Cavanaugh.

Oh and Greg **cough, cough** Hauppauge (team 358) could not have possibly had an incursion into the goal as they don't dump into the corner goals, gotta love our scouting team and their depth of information for that one! :)

Re: 2006 SBPLI Long Island Regional
 

For the record, it is physically impossible for our robot to enter the goal at all (assuming we are in one piece!!!). We are a 28" x 38" x 60" tall box, with no appendages.

On a more important topic....
I want to send a big congrats to 514 for Chairmans, and to Pat for Woody Flowers. You guys are a class act!!!!!!!!!!

Re: 2006 SBPLI Long Island Regional
 

Clarification on the positioning thing, my Dad is bad with details so Madison was misinformed.

He was confusing the time we made a last minute change to our alignment, which we verified was ok with the head ref before doing so, with the fact that for match 5 we broke our position trend and let 271 take slot 1 and we took 2, no rule breaking here, just a confused Dad :)

Re: 2006 SBPLI Long Island Regional
 

Can you clear up when my team went into a corner goal? I drive the robot and there was only 1 time I was anywhere remotely near a corner and that was to collect some balls with my conveyor, not push balls in or dump balls out.

Congrats to all who put up with going through a 5 match best of 3 finals competition. I had a great time and I hope to see you all and Championships.

Re: 2006 SBPLI Long Island Regional
 

Well like I said, I don't have all of the specifics since I was in a world of hurt and cheering at the same time.

Brain, could you clear up what actually happened with that. Being half-there and listening on several conversations at once, I obviously missed something with that. I'm sorry Hauppauge if its looks like I'm trying to knock you, I'm just trying to relay everything I knew in the hopes it gets corrected.

This is why I really wish they would check their own video feeds for things like this...

Re: 2006 SBPLI Long Island Regional
 

OK Greg, to help clarify:

With all the excitement of the replays, replays & uh....oh yeah replays of the final match there was some misinformation flowing around.

1. There was no actual goal incursion by any team on any alliance. Matt (not Krass our teams Matt C.) verified that afterwards with the refs due to the confusion. The ONLY issues during the replays were field/computer related, (oh yeah and that tie score in the 3rd match) :yikes:

2. As I mentioned earlier 358 did not have ANY mechanism on their robot that would allow them to enter the lower goal in any way, shape or form. We saw that in Hartford and also knew from our scouting info that dumping was not part of their strategy. Quite frankly they didn't need to dump 'cause their shooter is excellent and only getting better as they "massage" their technology.

On a side note I want to echo Scott's congrats to 514 for their chairman's award. They have been around for many years and through all their up's and down's have always been a class act when it comes to Gracious Professionalism.

Greg, remember that the competition is only a means to and end and the robot is the method of getting to that end. The real payoff is having people like yourself, Matt Krass and anyone else on any FIRST team anywhere having the opportunity to do this.

Like I kept telling all of your 1468 team mates during the build period:

"If you're not careful you're actually going to learn something from this and then you'll be addicted like the rest of us."

Re: 2006 SBPLI Long Island Regional
 

Hey, Good playing guys, we played really good as a team. Im a pit crew guy from 870, but we did really well together. Congrats too all :D

Wow, our team went from dead last for most of friday into saturday :ahh: , to winning the finals. you guys made a good pick.


GO 870!!! :D

Re: 2006 SBPLI Long Island Regional
 

Congrats to 358 on a successful defense of their regional championship! I understand that makes four straight regional finals appearances for you, and, if only in my book, three regional championships in two years. Good luck in Atlanta; I won't be there but my team might. If we are, feel free to drop by our pit and say hello.

Re: 2006 SBPLI Long Island Regional
 

Thanks sw293

Spike is one of our all time favorite teams.
We appreciate you taking us to the finals in Philly last yr.

By the way your robot looked great in NJ this year. I liked the antenna springs that opened your basket/hopper.

Ken

Re: 2006 SBPLI Long Island Regional
 

Go to http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...290#post477290
For the Vids!

Re: 2006 SBPLI Long Island Regional
 

I would like to extend my congratulations to all who participated in the SBPLI regionals.

I would like to extend my congratulations even more to all the teams in the finals and to 870, 271, and 358 for winning it.

However, I would like to especially recognize team 1468 for being the deciding factor on the 329, 353, 1468 alliance. I said it to one member of your team and I would like to make it publicly known that your actions in the last seconds of the the tied match 3 was absolutely heroic and the reason for the tie. If there was a highlight reel for that regional, you would definitely be the #1 video.

I assume 1468 is a second year team? Gotta love to see you guys competing with some of the best established teams in the northeast.

Re: 2006 SBPLI Long Island Regional
 

Congratulations to 514 for winning Chairman's Award, and thanks to 329, 353 and 1468 for an intense Finals. Thanks to 271 and 870 for being with us at the end. :) Also congratulations to all the MVPs chosen by their teams.

and to echo others - third match was a tie, fourth match was replayed because we lost autonomous mode, the computer said we won. So a field mishap created the fifth match.

Specifically I was. ;) 358, first seed (11-1-0), picked 271 as our first pick then 870 as our second pick.

870, Southold was with us last year too. :)

Also our shooter never actaully broke - it was just jammed and had positioning problems from a slipping potentiometer. :D

Its a good thing it ended when it did - we were starting to run low on batteries! :ahh:

Re: 2006 SBPLI Long Island Regional
 

Actually we're a 3rd year team. Either way we had a great year considering all the hardships we went through. McArthur was the only other Rookie team when we joined. A bit sad that they started the grants/scholarships for the Rookie award teams right AFTER we got all 3 Rookie awards.

Re: 2006 SBPLI Long Island Regional
 

Can anyone please post the Volunteer of the Year and Woodie Flowers Award recipients names please? The FIRST website information is incomplete.

Thanks.