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Validius 16-03-2006 09:04

Re: 1549's stratagy...
 
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Originally Posted by shamuwong
I must say, I was stunned when I first saw 1549's base. Most of the time, I was in the pits and got to see few matches. When I was on the pit crew for the elimination matches, I saw 1549 get stuck on the lexan shields on the ramp, exposing their treads. I was blown away by the sheer powerful-looking-ness of it. Especially since I first saw casters up front, I didn't know how they could play defense so well.

Very few robots were able to use the camera effectively at GLR, and those who could couldn't respond fast enough to defense. In this game, with the precarious objective of putting balls through the air into a goal, defense will definitely play a major role in team strategy. As a matter of fact, finals just seemed to be 1 scoring robot and 2 defensive robots against a similar alliance. I don't see any robots that can be moved somewhat easily making it very far, unless they have ridiculously fast camera tracking or bodyguards.


You guys were great too.

Our tracks came from an old Sears snowblower. We had all but decided to go with timing belt tracks when I just picked the blower up on a whim. We never looked back.


BLAST THOSE LEXAN SHIEDS. From now on we are going to go backwards if we try to defend in autonomus. If we would have gone tracks first that would not have happened.

Starke 16-03-2006 09:59

Re: 1549's stratagy...
 
from watching many webcasts and being at the Finger Lakes Regional, i can see what the main strategy seems to be for everyone (correct me if i am wrong).

it is necessary to win autonomous this year. if you win autonomous, you already have at least a 10 point head start. generally autonomous came down to one or two robots coming across the field and stopping their opponents from making 3 point shots. then just stop your opponents from scoring during their offensive time. during your offensive period score a few to make sure you have the win. if your already winning the match, why score any more points during the free-for-all period? just stop your opponents from scoring. then just get as many robots on the ramp as possible to negate any opponent robots on the ramp.

what do you think? this seemed to occur a lot from what i have seen. please let me know your opinions.

Validius 16-03-2006 10:37

Re: 1549's stratagy...
 
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Originally Posted by Starke340
from watching many webcasts and being at the Finger Lakes Regional, i can see what the main strategy seems to be for everyone (correct me if i am wrong).

it is necessary to win autonomous this year. if you win autonomous, you already have at least a 10 point head start. generally autonomous came down to one or two robots coming across the field and stopping their opponents from making 3 point shots. then just stop your opponents from scoring during their offensive time. during your offensive period score a few to make sure you have the win. if your already winning the match, why score any more points during the free-for-all period? just stop your opponents from scoring. then just get as many robots on the ramp as possible to negate any opponent robots on the ramp.

what do you think? this seemed to occur a lot from what i have seen. please let me know your opinions.

Autonomus is big but so it the ramp. We were anways on the ramp.

otimos 20-03-2006 22:50

Re: 1549's stratagy...
 
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Originally Posted by the_short1
being pure defense (not designed to score), is not a great way to "Aim high", as packing a lot of weight, and a solid tank drivetrain isn’t much in the end of engineering and innovation (IMHO), and it also leads to very brutal "battle bots" in some, but not necessarily all.

-kevin

As the driver for 1549 and having taken a large hand in design and fabrication of the drivetrain I disagree with the 1/2 track design being low on the innovation scale. The 1/2 track implementation offers a robust application of a purpose engineered track assembly with a extreme ability to resist lateral (off drive axis) force; a design flaw which befell many of the full track drivetrain configurations at GLR. Although not outwardly visible, thus understandably omitted, the placement of the gearboxes utilizing a robust tensioning method allowed for the collapse of a transmission casting and still proved reliable tensioning utilizing the secondary mechanism for the majority of the final day having yet to fail in competition.

drivetrain innovation is a challenging class to judge as many subtle features incorporated are difficult to notice thanks in part to the durability which they provide.

as a comment I would like to point out we had no problems pushing around any other drivetrain presented at GLR at least we were equally matched in the rare occasion. If you have video proof of 1549 being pushed around head to head I would love to study it.


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