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pwilczynski 11-03-2006 21:25

Re: 2006 UTC New England Regional!
 
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Originally Posted by Scott358
Congrats to the Ticks for Chairmans!!!

Thanks a lot Scott. I have to say that enjoyed UTC as well. I think one of the funnier parts was the mascot dance.

Kudos to the winning allience of Ace's High, Bobcats, and the Uberbots. You guys had some pretty amazing chemistry working.

MattD1Drift 11-03-2006 22:33

Re: 2006 UTC New England Regional!
 
The 230 alliance was with the Ticks I belive, that was an awesome dance!

devicenull 11-03-2006 23:26

Re: 2006 UTC New England Regional!
 
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Originally Posted by BoyWithCape195
I have just found an instance where the live scoring / crew counters / score keepers had an incorrect score at UTC. In this round, there was an obvious 10 Pt's scored in the lower goal, and the live scoring agreed. The alliance that scored these 10 Pt's received the 10 point bonus, giving them 20 points. At the end of the match in discussion, there were 2 robots from this alliance clearly on the ramp. There were NO penalties, yet the alliance received a score of 26 points which is physically impossible (with what was scored). Also, balls where scored in the one point goals throughout the match with at least one shot in the center goal, yet in the end the alliance received a score of 26 instead of what they actually got.

I looked it over again and it seems as if the other alliance was given the score that rightfully belonged to the alliance in question...

Did get video of the QF's at UTC?

Funny, because I just heard a very, very similar story about a match.. Nothing can be done about it now, so I'm not about to worry about it

nightrenegade00 12-03-2006 00:52

Re: 2006 UTC New England Regional!
 
I have noticed the same thing with the scoring in the instance stated above...I have also heard something about a scoring mix up. In the second qualifying match of the Alliance #3 vs Alliance #6 round the scores were switched...giving alliance 6 a win instead of the second loss which they recieved. I do not know whether this is tru or not. I would really like a ref who might know anything about this to please post because the scoring needs to be fixed. they have done a very poor job of the scoring (from what I have seen at UTC) and I want to make sure that it is fixed for the rest of the regionals so that this doesnt happen to anyone else...please if anyone has anything on this say something!!

BoyWithCape195 12-03-2006 03:02

Re: 2006 UTC New England Regional!
 
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Originally Posted by nightrenegade00
I have noticed the same thing with the scoring in the instance stated above...I have also heard something about a scoring mix up. In the second qualifying match of the Alliance #3 vs Alliance #6 round the scores were switched...giving alliance 6 a win instead of the second loss which they recieved. I do not know whether this is tru or not. I would really like a ref who might know anything about this to please post because the scoring needs to be fixed. they have done a very poor job of the scoring (from what I have seen at UTC) and I want to make sure that it is fixed for the rest of the regionals so that this doesnt happen to anyone else...please if anyone has anything on this say something!!


I was talking about QF match 4-2.

181, 358, and 558 vs 195, 236, and 230

181's alliance was given the 35 and 195's alliance was given the 26.

Melissa Nute 12-03-2006 08:10

Re: 2006 UTC New England Regional!
 
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Originally Posted by nightrenegade00
I have noticed the same thing with the scoring in the instance stated above...I have also heard something about a scoring mix up. In the second qualifying match of the Alliance #3 vs Alliance #6 round the scores were switched...giving alliance 6 a win instead of the second loss which they recieved. I do not know whether this is tru or not. I would really like a ref who might know anything about this to please post because the scoring needs to be fixed. they have done a very poor job of the scoring (from what I have seen at UTC) and I want to make sure that it is fixed for the rest of the regionals so that this doesnt happen to anyone else...please if anyone has anything on this say something!!

UTC Scorekeeper here, the scores that were entered were verified by the refs and myself. In fact, during the finals, the real timer scorers and the automatic sensors were dead on a majority of the time. There wasn't a finals match that people were given the wrong points and having the wrong alliance lose.

BoyWithCape195 12-03-2006 09:10

Re: 2006 UTC New England Regional!
 
That confuses me then, because in QF 4.2, it was not possible to get a 26 with what our alliance had done. Win autonomous with 10 balls entered in the corner goal, and two robots on the ramp. That would give our alliance a minimum of 30 points, and more points where scored during the match in the corner and center goal. I don't know exactly what happened, but something did.

pwilczynski 12-03-2006 09:38

Re: 2006 UTC New England Regional!
 
During the finals, it seemed to me that there were a large number of scores that made no sense. In general, the teams who won were the teams who should have won, but the scores seemed very off from what they should have been. I think that the live scoring needs to be fixed, because as a driver, I know that I use it to try and tell who is winning to plan what I should do.

nightrenegade00 12-03-2006 11:47

Re: 2006 UTC New England Regional!
 
I agree...I know there is nothing that anyone can do about it now but I would like to see the confusion cleared up so that people arent looking at the scores saying "how is that possible"

jjdebner 12-03-2006 12:36

Re: 2006 UTC New England Regional!
 
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Originally Posted by BoyWithCape195
I was talking about QF match 4-2.

181, 358, and 558 vs 195, 236, and 230

181's alliance was given the 35 and 195's alliance was given the 26.

In QF match 4-2 there was a penalty that was not recorded on the screen when the score was shown

The score was:
181's 35 and 195's 36 with a 10 point penalty making it 26
The penalty was on 236 for "excessive ramming in user control mode"

in the match before
236 got an almost identical pentaly they got 5 point penalty for ramming in auto mode.

The first penalty showed on the score board, but the second one didn't. 195 alliance would have won both matches had there been no penalties. Guess we need to be a little more gentle


btw: 195 presentation of UTC regional http://www.flickr.com/photos/jdebner...7594080430030/

Peter Matteson 12-03-2006 12:40

Re: 2006 UTC New England Regional!
 
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Originally Posted by Meli W.
UTC Scorekeeper here, the scores that were entered were verified by the refs and myself. In fact, during the finals, the real timer scorers and the automatic sensors were dead on a majority of the time. There wasn't a finals match that people were given the wrong points and having the wrong alliance lose.

I thought that it the scoring was done quite well in the finals. I saw the volunteers manually counting to verify during all rounds and when we questioned the score on the first match against the 126-20-571 we were given a very clear explanation that satified our question.

On another note how come no one has pointed out his yet here?
The UTC Regional was won by an ALL UTC Team Alliance.

177 The Bobcats - UTC Power - Alliance Captain
176 Aces High - Hamilton Sunstrand - 1st pick
1124 The Uberbots - UTC Fire and Security - 2nd pick

BoyWithCape195 12-03-2006 16:44

Re: 2006 UTC New England Regional!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jjdebner
In QF match 4-2 there was a penalty that was not recorded on the screen when the score was shown

The score was:
181's 35 and 195's 36 with a 10 point penalty making it 26
The penalty was on 236 for "excessive ramming in user control mode"

in the match before
236 got an almost identical pentaly they got 5 point penalty for ramming in auto mode.

The first penalty showed on the score board, but the second one didn't. 195 alliance would have won both matches had there been no penalties. Guess we need to be a little more gentle


btw: 195 presentation of UTC regional http://www.flickr.com/photos/jdebner...7594080430030/

I find it interesting that during all the qualification rounds, 236 played the same way as they did in the elimination rounds but in the elimination rounds they got called for it. For example, their auto mode that was used against us in the qualification matches; they were not penalized. If a team is not called on something during the entire event, how are they supposed to know that a penalty would be a result of it come time for eliminations?

Imajie 12-03-2006 17:30

Re: 2006 UTC New England Regional!
 
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Originally Posted by jjdebner

btw: 195 presentation of UTC regional http://www.flickr.com/photos/jdebner...7594080430030/

I like all the pictures Josh, but did you take enough?

Richsgt 12-03-2006 18:01

Re: 2006 UTC New England Regional!
 
Definitely want to post that the venue was excellent, there was a lot of space in the pits, and even though the stands were a little on the small side, they definitely were filled the whole time. Even though they do need another starbucks...definitely need my coffee at 8am to function correctly

Thanks as well to 176 and 1124 for being great alliance partners. go UTC

Mark McLeod 12-03-2006 19:28

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Congratulations to teams 177, 176, and 1124. You guys were great and show what’s really possible to accomplish in only 6 weeks. You demonstrated a perfect mix of offense and defense doing both very well and adapting to changing circumstances like an alliance really should. When you were on offense you scored your points against the best we could throw against you and on defense you kept us from scoring our points.

I know 177 will play again at Philly and I’m hopeful we’ll see you guys in Atlanta (sadly we were shutout of Philly this year), and we get to see 176 and the dancing deck of cards again in two weeks at the Long Island Regional where we saw them last year. I hope 1124 is able to go to the Championships this year, or that we see you at one of the many off-season events.

My thanks to Teams 181 and 558. You guys made up a terrific medal quality alliance. My hats off to all three drive teams, you really made things happen out there on the field. Good luck in Philly 181 and I wish both you and 558 were going to Atlanta this year.

The UTC New England Regional committee did a lot of work and it showed in the quality of this event. It was a great experience. Lovely venue. Lots of space, everything in one place, 10x10 pits with wide aisles (to my eyes, we usually play under more cramped conditions), lots of practice space, plenty of tables for eating, compiling scouting reports, programming as well as lots and lots of spare space for team meetings and all the other events such as FVC, FLL, the robot art show. The MC, Blair, was awesome we’ve experienced him at several other events we’ve attended in the past.

There were many things I just did not have the time to take full advantage of, such as the Vex tournament and the FLL demonstration, but I saw a little bit and sat with some of the Vex teams strategizing during lunch and could experience the spill over excitement.

People working the concession stand were wonderful. They were very nice and always helpful. In fact all the people we met at the regional were extremely nice to us. Connecticut is a wonderful place. I was probably the grumpiest person there, due to diet constraints I subsisted on granola bars or lettuce salad for breakfast, lunch and sometimes dinner. Not enough coffee in my system either. I got a little snappish when people stood between the camera and the practice field target light.

Mike Betts of 177 asked me as we were leaving "Did you have fun?"
I have to respond with a resounding YES!!


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