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Doug G 26-03-2006 02:16

Re: 2006 Davis Sacramento Regional
 
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Originally Posted by sciguy125
This regional was a little upsetting for 1351. We fought hard and made it to first seed. Then, about 20 mins before our quarter final match, we had a speed controller fry. We didn't have enough time to fix it and went in with the left drive dead.

The really disappointing part was that we have two motors per side and only one died. We might have been alright had the second motor worked. However, it looks like we accidentally unplugged/dislodged/otherwise caused to fail the signal cable from the other speed controller while we were trying to replace the dead one. There were other problems associated with our hasty swap job, but those mentioned were the direct causes of the failure.

We lost both of the quarter final matches and were out. Thanks to 649 and 100 for sticking through it with us anyway.

You're robot was awesome - we thought for sure we'd go against your alliance in the final rounds. We totally understand your frustration, feeling like you could still achieve so much more. We had our shooter roller bearing out of whack and couldn't score from in front of the ramp during finals, a strategy we had calibrated and prepared for earlier on the practice field. But that's the price we paid for a somewhat tippy robot. Our alliance, 753, had basically overheated all its motors and couldn't play their awesome defense by the third finals match.

So will you be competing at any more events? Keep your spirits up, you have a lot to be proud of!

Mike Hendricks 26-03-2006 02:51

Re: 2006 Davis Sacramento Regional
 
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Originally Posted by sciguy125
This regional was a little upsetting for 1351. We fought hard and made it to first seed. Then, about 20 mins before our quarter final match, we had a speed controller fry. We didn't have enough time to fix it and went in with the left drive dead.

We were pitted next to you, and as soon as I saw you electrical board spark and smoke, my head just dropped. We ran over and offered another victor, but I guess you guys had spares. The way your electrical board was laid out, it made it really hard to see where the problem was coming from. I will commend you guys for actually taking it out onto the field and doing the best you could; that was impressive. You guys are a great team and had an awesome bot, sorry it didn't work out for you. I know your programmer worked really hard to get that bot going. Did you ever happen to determine what blew the victor out? One would assume it was a metal shaving, but it was strange how it worked out; drivetrain was running fine and all of a sudden *poof*

I'm going to make a topic in the thank you section in a little bit that I'd like all the teams at Sac (who read CD) to see .. It'd be much appreciated - Thanks

sciguy125 26-03-2006 10:44

Re: 2006 Davis Sacramento Regional
 
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Originally Posted by PhatMike
I know your programmer worked really hard to get that bot going. Did you ever happen to determine what blew the victor out? One would assume it was a metal shaving, but it was strange how it worked out; drivetrain was running fine and all of a sudden *poof*

We were able to get a replacement in before the match, but we weren't able to connect it. It took us awhile to figure out which one it was. We just went through and tested each one so see which wasn't working.

We're pretty sure that the reason it blew was that it was being driven full forward, then being slammed into reverse during autonomous. I figure there should be a massive current spike in this condition. The strange thing is that we'd been doing it for a long time, but it didn't give out until we needed it most. I feel a little responsible because I caught the problem before but forgot bring it up. For one thing, I didn't think it would lead to catastrphic failure. Especially not right before the championship rounds.

Salik Syed 26-03-2006 11:47

Re: 2006 Davis Sacramento Regional
 
Great job to all teams, especially the winning alliance, you guys played awesome. It's too bad we couldn't play our best match in that last final match

as our mentor mentioned our shooter bearing got dislodged, so our shooter would not shoot fast enough, it was heart breaking seeing us lined up and the balls just plopping out and going no where(we had settings to shoot from below the ramp!)
also 753 could not drive due to overheating (the breakers were so hot from the match before that they hadn't had time to cool down... and tripped at normal driving)... oh well its all part of the game! great job everyone , second place is certainly not upsetting. Thanks to 753 and 955 for helping us get so far!

The very nice thing i think was that EVERYONE was defending us (701) leaving 955 totally open and they scored probablby more points than us in the lower goals ! (we usually made 6-7 to goals while they human loaded and dumped 20+)

AlphaSt0rm 26-03-2006 14:33

Re: 2006 Davis Sacramento Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sciguy125
This regional was a little upsetting for 1351. We fought hard and made it to first seed. Then, about 20 mins before our quarter final match, we had a speed controller fry. We didn't have enough time to fix it and went in with the left drive dead.

The really disappointing part was that we have two motors per side and only one died. We might have been alright had the second motor worked. However, it looks like we accidentally unplugged/dislodged/otherwise caused to fail the signal cable from the other speed controller while we were trying to replace the dead one. There were other problems associated with our hasty swap job, but those mentioned were the direct causes of the failure.

We lost both of the quarter final matches and were out. Thanks to 649 and 100 for sticking through it with us anyway.

FOR THE RECORD:
It seems that we had 4 separate teams come to our pit and comment on our robot's remarkable similarity to 254's. We did not work with them, ours was developed completely independently. We didn't see their design until they released pictures from the Portland regional, so we didn't have time to copy it either. I was actually pretty shocked when I noticed that we pretty much have the same robot, functionally anyway. And as for copying their strategy too, we had the idea on kick off day. The robot was designed with the "shoot from the platform" attack in mind. The reason we didn't impliment it at Silicon Valley is that we were having some drivetrain issues that made it hard to get up the ramp. Again, we are not a cheap knockoff of 254. We independently designed a similar, but shoddy version of their robot.

I was surprised to be picked by 1351 :ahh: The second seed team approached us and we were planning on being selected by them. Even though we placed 16th overall it seemed that alot of the top seeds wanted us on their teams :D Seemed like a blessing, but things didn't work out that way, maybe next year :)

TheOtherTaylor 26-03-2006 14:41

Re: 2006 Davis Sacramento Regional
 
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we had 4 separate teams come to our pit and comment on our robot's remarkable similarity to 254's
We probably would have gotten even more if we hadn't simplified our conveyor system that origionally looked -exactly- like 254's did. A little irritating though how often we were compared to them simply because we were doing very well with a similar strategy. I guess I was hoping more people would take note of our turret and how adaptable we could be when we couldn't land exactly where we wanted to shoot from.

The victor was a huge dissapointment. I tried to sort of jerk and twist our bot into firing range with only half the drivetrain pulling which almost worked until the opposing alliance figured me out and gave us a friendly little shove back to where we started. We didn't have any chance once our bot couldn't get into firing range.

As a side note, I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed meeting the other teams which I really tried to put a lot of effort into this regional when I had nothing to fix (mainly the drive teams during strategy meetings but also the others that came by to say hi) and congrats to all the people who got awards.

Alaina 27-03-2006 00:58

Re: 2006 Davis Sacramento Regional
 
Team 814 had a phenominal time at Davis. Though we produced a robot that was hardly considered competitive, over half of the kids had never been to a competition before and had a lot to learn. Now I'm confident enough to say that my kids definitely know all that FIRST represents.

When we weren't picked for the finals, we weren't disappointed. It just made us realize we could root for our favorites instead. (701!! :]) There was so much energy during the finals. I swear it was louder than a high school football game.

I love that team 245 won Chairmans. They're such a great group. I hope this motivates them to return once again in 2007. It wouldn't be Davis without them.

Team 814 gives a huge thanks to UC Davis and everyone who made this regional possible. Keep up the good work and we'll see you next year!

double_check 27-03-2006 01:53

Re: 2006 Davis Sacramento Regional
 
Well, I must say that the UC Davis Regional was probably the funnest day of my life. I had so much fun cheering with all the teams there. I was the Fembot dancing around near the field in pair of wings, cape, and multiple other team spirit adornments. All the mascots down there were crazy cool. You guys rock.

Congratulations to all the teams that were in the finals and the winning alliance of 1726, 852, and 1662. You guys all did great. 1351 your robot was absolutely amazing. I'm sorry you had technical difficulties. It was so nice to have 368 there from Honolulu and great job on getting that spirit award. Good job to 245 on chairmans and 753 on the engineering inspiration award. Can't wait for next year and hope to see all the teams again.

Ed Sparks 27-03-2006 17:18

Re: 2006 Davis Sacramento Regional
 
Thanks to Alan, Bill, Steve, and Ken (the inspection crew). It was a pleasure working with you inspecting all of those great west coast 'bots. (I finally met and worked with the infamous Ken Leung :D )

Thanks Stu Bloom for the fine work as lead ref. I really liked the backup scoring system you guys used.

I want to give a special thanks to Jason Morrella who gave team 34 every chance to compete by helping us track down our missing robot (It arrived 7:00 p.m. Thursday night :eek:).

But most of all I want to thank all the teams and volunteers at the Davis/Sacramento regional. This was truly a great event in our book and I'm so glad we could attend. Our team always strives to help other teams at any event we go to but it was particularly inspiring to me to see so many come to our aid when we needed a hand. It just goes to show you that FIRSTers are FIRSTers no matter what part of this world they live in. :)

I hope to see you all again soon ...........

Salik Syed 27-03-2006 21:00

Re: 2006 Davis Sacramento Regional
 
Hey Ed...
just wanted to say thanks , you were by far one of the most helpful inspectors i've met! You addressed actual problems and told us how to fix them.

MIsanthropist 27-03-2006 22:41

Re: 2006 Davis Sacramento Regional
 
Just wanted to say thank to everyone who attended the regional i had the time of my life and i learned a lot from other teams an i wanted to congratulate the winners you definetly deserve the win you have earned it by far i also wanted to thnk 701 and 955 for being our alliance partners. Sorry to anyone whose robot we damaged. and I look forward to seeing the winners at nationals since we qualified by winning the PNW regional. And thanks ed we were running hot on our cannon and we appreciate you taking the concern nicely and being sincere. :D :D :D

Li Jianliang 28-03-2006 00:14

Re: 2006 Davis Sacramento Regional
 
That was the best Regional that I'd ever attended in my life, and the last FIRST Robotics Competition in my high school career. Thank you to Team 701 and Team 753 for this amazing experience!
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Originally Posted by squirrel
updated Friday night with new pics of all robots

http://www.selectric.org/nerds/2006ca/index.html

Thanks for the photos of all teams- It really helped out my team's scouting efforts on Saturday morning! ^_^

Doug G 28-03-2006 04:33

Re: 2006 Davis Sacramento Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Li Jianliang
That was the best Regional that I'd ever attended in my life, and the last FIRST Robotics Competition in my high school career. Thank you to Team 701 and Team 753 for this amazing experience!

That definitely was the best regional we have experienced yet - not only the fact we were really competitive for a change, but also I enjoyed meeting the variety of teams from all over. It didn't all go smoothly of course, Team 753 slammed us pretty good against the ramp in a qualifying match which shattered one of our omni-wheels. Good thing we had them in our alliance in the tournament! Thanks to Saratoga High, 649, for not just one spare omni, but two of them!! You guys rock!! And your Holonomic drive was fun to watch!! Note to teams.. AM plastic omni wheels + metal ramp = only good for one competition!!

My heart goes out to team David Tyco and his rookie team 1974. I do wish they come back again under better circumstances and wish David a speedy recovery. Team 34, 1726, and 100 really helped them out so they could get their robot running around on the field. They did eventually win one match and were able to score 9 points in a match. Thank you again to all those who attended the regional and we sure hope to have you back in the future. For those who missed some of the final matches, I'm starting to post some of them on our website along with Grant's (Mythbusters - Team 841) pep talk.

MrForbes 28-03-2006 09:04

Re: 2006 Davis Sacramento Regional
 
thanks for putting up those videos! If you want to fill in the blanks on which teams were in the matches, look here for the match info.


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Originally Posted by Li Jianliang
Thanks for the photos of all teams- It really helped out my team's scouting efforts on Saturday morning! ^_^

I'm glad someone got some use out of them! Apparently you folks did...you had a very strong alliance, the final matches were awesome, congratulations

KrazyRoadster 28-03-2006 20:18

Re: 2006 Davis Sacramento Regional
 
Does anyone know where to find videos of this regional? My team and I wanted to watch them to see some of the great robots we may have missed.


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