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Re: GP, Ramming, and Practice

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Originally Posted by Dillon Compton

there WILL be goals at the regionals, off to the side of the Pits like there are every year; if you need more time to calibrate your camera, feel free to use them!

Ahem...You are assuming that the lighting at the practice field and the real deal is the same. It isn't. If a team calibrates for the practice field, their camera probably won't work on the real field. It's happened to us. So, if you play defense on us (even though you don't break us) before our shooter is dialed in, and we can't dial it in, and you are paired with us the next day, don't expect to have us shoot at our best!

Re: GP, Ramming, and Practice

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Originally Posted by Not2B

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Originally Posted by KenWittleif

There is a simple answer for this problem. Make up yellow signs or triangles or something you can put on your robot. If your robot has not yet been inspected, or you are still missing stuff (like bumpers) on thrusday, you put the big yellow triangle on your bot, and all the teams are told this means "NO CONTACT!"

Now that's a good idea.

I imagine that teams would respect that. (If not... what the heck is up with them!?!?)

This would be a good idea, but in order for it to work, I think it would need to be something made official by FIRST. That way it would be a universally accepted signal telling other teams not to play defense against the sign-wearer. It's not likely that every team in FIRST is going to read through this thread and realize that this is the way to make your intentions known. FIRST would have to officially tell all teams to do this in order for this to serve as the solution to the problem.

So - until FIRST makes "sign-wearing" the official communication method of intent, talk to the opposing alliance before your practice match.
Let them know whether or not you are interested in having them play heavy defense on your robot. I am sure that they would honor your request.

-- Jaine

Re: GP, Ramming, and Practice

As Ed said, practice on your alliance partner if you want. A good way to practice defense might be against another defensive robot on either alliance.
On a similar note, you also don't have to necessarily practice shooting on your own goal. At SVR, the Cheesy Poofs were shooting whenever they had balls, in both goals, and when the lights were off.

Re: GP, Ramming, and Practice

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Originally Posted by EricH

I'm not using the camera, so take what I am saying with a grain of salt;

Wasnt the point of using a lit target to standardize color values across the board? Does this not work as planned?

People seem to be over-reacting to what I'm saying I think; sure, if we make it so you cant dial in your shooter, and we get paired with you on friday and you cant shoot at 100% capability, it's our fault, but... The same concept is applicable to us being able to practice defense; if you get paired with US, and we dont get to practice defensive driving, and some robot gets away from us and scores some goals to win the game...your bad; we didnt get to practice.

Share and share alike; if you expect to be allowed to test and calibrate your shooter, please allow other teams to practice defense against you...it's only fair.