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Hexagram 19-03-2006 12:24

Team Size?
 
Hey guys, I was just interested as to how many people you have on your web team.

This year we had 3 people on the web team, but with all seriousness, I was the only one that know anything about anything relating to a website. I think because of this I was crippled as I couldn't even get the other two to use our CMS to post news.

If I had enough evidence I could most likely get somebody off programming part time to help me work on next years site.

oh yea, here's our unfinished site. Http://usfirst818.org

Koko Ed 19-03-2006 12:28

Re: Team Size?
 
We have a three person web team.

Daune, Kenny and Marine.

Hexagram 19-03-2006 12:32

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Oh so are you the mentor? Oh yea that's what held us back too!

Our mentor knew absolutely nothing about web design and wanted me to update the news every five minutes like some news site and throw animated gif's everywhere. After doing one animated gif and writing javascript for it to repeat, all my div layers crapped out on me, therefore wasting a week of troubleshooting. THEN The sql tables failed and we had to back up to and old old backup and loose most of the stuff I had done. :ahh:

I hated this year in terms of the website, last year was way more fun, with a cool mentor and helpful team members.

Koko Ed 19-03-2006 12:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hexagram
Oh so are you the mentor? Oh yea that's what held us back too!

Our mentor knew absolutely nothing about web design and wanted me to update the news every five minutes like some news site and throw animated gif's everywhere. After doing one animated gif and writing javascript for it to repeat, all my div layers crapped out on me, therefore wasting a week of troubleshooting. THEN The sql tables failed and we had to back up to and old old backup and loose most of the stuff I had done. :ahh:

I hated this year in terms of the website, last year was way more fun, with a cool mentor and helpful team members.

No that would be Duane ( I worked in animation) and he knew more about web design than Kenny and Mookie who worked mostly in Mechanisms but were good sports about it.
They updated the website from last year and focused on the CAD page.

And by the way you might want to think twice about bashing your mentors on a public messageboard and take it up in private.
They are volunteers and could have easily found something else to do instead of giving their time to the team so you can publicly assassinate them in front of all of the other teams. Irregardless of what you think about them or how they work they still deserve some measure of respect.

Hexagram 19-03-2006 12:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed
No that would be Duane ( I worked in animation) and he knew more about web design than Kenny and Mookie who worked mostly in Mechanisms but were good sports about it.
They updated the website from last year and focused on the CAD page.

And by the way you might want to think twice about bashing your mentors on a public messageboard and take it up in private.
They are volunteers and could have easily found something else to do instead of giving their time to the team so you can publicly assassinate them in front of all of the other teams. Irregardless of what you think about them or how they work they still deserve some measure of respect.

I respect her but I was rather mad at the way she bossed us around and expected to do things that obviously would look horrible.

Koko Ed 19-03-2006 12:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hexagram
I respect her but I was rather mad at the way she bossed us around and expected to do things that obviously would look horrible.

DOes your team have a lessons learned meeting at the end of the season?

Hexagram 19-03-2006 12:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed
DOes your team have a lessons learned meeting at the end of the season?

pfft yea right! I just talked to the friends of mine on programming and we're gonna make the site during the summer so that we don't have to deal with problems like this during the year.

Koko Ed 19-03-2006 12:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hexagram
pfft yea right! I just talked to the friends of mine on programming and we're gonna make the site during the summer so that we don't have to deal with problems like this during the year.

What I'm trying to say is taking your grievances here and making your dirty laundry public instead of keeping it in house is not a good way of doing business.
Other members of your team and mentor are going to see this and they may not be too pleased with what you are doing. You could get in serious trouble with this (I have seen it happen before). Think before you post.

Hexagram 19-03-2006 12:53

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Man i'm almost sick of it anyways, and this is one small thing, if I was here to just sit here and post my greviances, I would have already done it a long time ago and I would've left the team on my own.

Back to the topic: Do you have a link to your website?

Koko Ed 19-03-2006 12:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hexagram
Man i'm almost sick of it anyways, and this is one small thing, if I was here to just sit here and post my greviances, I would have already done it a long time ago and I would've left the team on my own.

Back to the topic: Do you have a link to your website?

Click my sig.

Geez that sounded creepy.

Hexagram 19-03-2006 12:56

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O0o I like that. Just gifs + frames? or did you use divs?

We had a layout like this last year but we used divs and it worked out well.

Koko Ed 19-03-2006 12:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hexagram
O0o I like that. Just gifs + frames? or did you use divs?

We had a layout like this last year but we used divs and it worked out well.

We had an HTML site and a Flash driven site but decided to just go with the HTML site.
The site was designed last year by a very talented student named Hoang who decided not to come back this year. I think he took up a sport and is doing photography for the yearbook.

Hexagram 19-03-2006 13:03

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Oh alright, awesome!

It's always such a bummer when you have somebody that does amazingly awesome then leaves.

ThomasP 19-03-2006 14:51

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I'd have to agree with Koko Ed, even if the mentor doesn't know what they're doing it isn't cool to bash them in public because they're giving up their time to help out.

We have a mentor on our team that admits that he doesn't know what he's doing but he comes to every meeting he can to offer his ideas and help out. Even though his ideas may not be great sometimes, they can either give us an idea of where we want to go with something or where we want to stay away from and it allows us to narrow our focus in on what we want to do. As far as the mentor being "bossy", you may want to talk with them about it.

Back on the original subject though... this year's web team had like 3 people I think. I did all the JSP scripting and about half of the HTML, Kerstie did the other half of the HTML, and Nick did a lot of the graphics work.

http://www.blarglefish.com

Hexagram 19-03-2006 19:02

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It's not that she didn't know what she was doing.

It's that she claimed she did and told us to do stuff that would've been completely wrong.

such as, playing midi files on the homepage.
oh.
so.
1993.

Hexagram 19-03-2006 19:03

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Hey dude, btw your announcements is broken.

ThomasP 19-03-2006 23:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hexagram
Hey dude, btw your announcements is broken.

Yea... sorry about that, I was in the middle of an upgrade to the site when my parents decided that we were going to go see Failure To Launch... pretty good movie, quite funny.

David55 20-03-2006 06:13

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our web team has 4 students
we don't have any web mentors... we only have one teacher for the whole project and he usually helps the building team

whats amazing is that our web team learned everything from the beginning
by themselves, they learned HTML, asp, php, Photoshop and Flash.
i think they did pretty well...

www.avivrobotics.net

hao1300 20-03-2006 17:47

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Our team has only one web-designer (and that is me :o )... I have to learn HTML, PHP, Flash, and Photoshop from scratch... Fortunately, other team members help taking pictures and recording videos and post some news occasionally...

and not one of our mentors really know anything web-design...

http://www.newtownhighschool.org/technotics/

Clam 20-03-2006 19:12

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wow, our team has three members and a great mentor, but only two of the team members really worked alot with the website, me and our team leader. the "other" webbie auditioned for the school play and got a part, so he basically didn't do much when it came to crunch time because the play took so much of his time. this year i did most of the content because i joined late, but i will have the honor of designing next year's site with my "partner in crime". Next, year, there is going to be at least two members; me and my friend from manufacturing, Nita. I hope we get some new recruits though, more than two heads are better than... well, two heads. ^.^

Hexagram 22-03-2006 10:02

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Sweet.

Don't be too worried about html (as it's easy), css is more important then php in terms of learning things, then after that learn basic php.

Be sure to clean up the code that imageready gives you too, grr automated things are always messy.

Yea me and my friend are already working on next years site, it's almost done, we just have to make it better.

That's also another thing that helps, a helpful team.

If we had a group of people taking pictures and giving us announcements/dates/stories, then our site would've been better.

Tomasz Bania 22-03-2006 12:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hexagram
That's also another thing that helps, a helpful team.

If we had a group of people taking pictures and giving us announcements/dates/stories, then our site would've been better.

Yeah, Brandon and I we're supposed to do it, but I had to do the Giveaway/shirts/hotels/etc. so I didn't really have time and Brandon, well, was playing cards. I'm sure they'll realize that we need our SCIPS team back next year and not just a couple people from other teams.

Tomasz Bania

rappo 26-03-2006 22:10

Re: Team Size?
 
One person... me! :D

robot180 09-04-2006 13:54

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My web site team is led by me and has a few photo gallery people, a few forum moderators and admins, a few people who wrote some content, and two others who help with some programming, and a mentor/supervisor.

We need a graphics or Flash person.

We also work with a lot of other teams on various projects, such as our web ring, STAMP, and Tool Guide.

Freddy Schurr 09-04-2006 15:58

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2 people- Evan Chin and his sister

Michelle Celio 09-04-2006 16:01

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My teams web site department is one person strong.

The things I get myself into....


But I'm hopeing to get some new people next year to help out.

Chris Marra 09-04-2006 16:10

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I was basically the only person on the web team, with my brother helping me, and no mentor other than one teacher who had to approve anything before I passed it along for uploading to another. However I did do a lot of other stuff during the build season, and between needing to do the inventor website for next years submission and the actual site, I'll basically be full time web team.

Hiteak 09-04-2006 16:36

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I worked on most of it myself in spare time, but another student hosted it.

SamC 09-04-2006 17:07

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We had a 3 person team too... We each did different pages but only one student knoew how to upload it to our server...&( so in the e-mail proccess alot of stuff got mixed up and stuff so it didn't turn out like it was supposed to but its ok.... It was my first year on the team and didn't want to take over or anything but what do you guys think looks better? A picture backgrowned (like our site) or a white/color backgrowned with borders and stuff? Personally i think the judges like to plane color back rather than a picture and i like th eplain aswell... but whatever! Oh yeah the link is in my sig!

YonZ 09-04-2006 18:34

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Our web team is basically two people, one guy doing all the coding and imaging stuff and I sat with him as we built it and worked with him on design and aesthetics, and wrote all the content.
We have three more people involved, one who has given input and written newsletter content, one who has done a bit of coding fixing our bugs, and our hoster who hosts the site and integrated gallery software into our site.

Dillon Compton 09-04-2006 18:36

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just me.

slade24 22-08-2006 09:37

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Just me. I've learned HTML, CSS, some PHP, some Javascript, and more all on my own in free time in-between Robotics, Marching Band (it's not as geeky as it's made out to be), AP classes, and work.

We had an old website that went defunct when the student who set it up left, preventing us from editing it before the hosting service finally killed it. Now I've set up a new trifecta of sites: a true website, a wiki, and a blog, that all tie together and each provide their own advantages. (Note: the wiki was made by our previous programmer Pierce Lopez -- thanks Pierce :) ). The new mainsite is hosted, unforunately, as a subdirectory on my teammate Nick's domain stunninginteractive.com, but for now its as good as I can get.

Honestly, I often wonder what the point of all the time I've spent on the sites is. No one on my team seems willing to contribute anything, even if only text blurbs or news events. The only people who have put ANY time into it are Pierce, Nick, and myself, and of those I'm probably the only one who will continue to. Too bad for my team I'm a senior. :(

At least I learned some useful stuff in the process. Here's what I've managed to create thus far.

Josh Murphy 22-08-2006 10:37

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This year we had Brandon the webmaster of CD and for the student website we had 3 students working on it full time. :)

DotCom 24-08-2006 00:17

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Web team size, huh? Haha...yeah, there's just me. There's one other girl, but she doesn't seem to take it very seriously and she doesn't know much. Hmmm, no mentor, either, since the teachers at our school don't know squat. Them and their Dreamweavers...lol.

AdamHeard 24-08-2006 12:08

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Our team has one dedicated mentor and student. We have another mentor who "consults", for lack of a better word.
www.bcrobotics.org

Chuck Glick 24-08-2006 15:48

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we currently have only one student who made the team website, but he also is the webmaster/designer for several school websites. next year i believe he said he is going to go into programming so we are in the process of a transition from a one man job to a much more sophisticated website and team. www.dawgma.org this is the new page that he designed and every part of the site should be updated and running hopefully by the end of the year. comments on the website will be appreciated, tell us what you think it needs or what you like. thanks.

coreyk 24-08-2006 23:07

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We currently have a two-person web team. However, these jobs do not function as the sole responsibility of the individuals. With the conclusion of each year, we have a training session in order to prepare future candidates – we try to allow the maximum time for skills to be fully developed.


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