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Uberbots 24-03-2006 21:41

Re: About being overweight and exceeding your size requirements – the need for reinsp
 
Wow i cant beleive in my slyness that i actually thought htis to be a decent strategy... i feel like a bad person now... :(

Anyway, as far as i can see in this discussion, teams that are cheating seem to be a definate problem. Unfortunately, i can see no fair way to solve this problem.
maybe in next years' games, the starting areas double as weight platforms? but then it would be too expensive....
Or how about a better thing... there is an award for the team with the most inspections?


Knowing the game design team, they will probably figure out a way to fix this next year.

Cuog 25-03-2006 18:56

Re: About being overweight and exceeding your size requirements – the need for reinsp
 
Something that they could do next year is make it so that your robot must be inspected every X matches, they give u a card at the inspection and each round they "punch" it and if the card is no lpnger valid then you can still compete ur just sort of disabled the whole match

TimCraig 25-03-2006 20:36

Re: About being overweight and exceeding your size requirements – the need for reinspecti
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meaubry
the HEAD Inspector is the person that should make the call and as long as that person is being consistent to ALL participants and communicating to everyone where, if any conditional boundaries are,

All I suggested is that ALL teams would then be provided an opportunity to object to the boundary conditions and those that violated them would need approval by ALL teams to compete under those conditions OR if ANY team objected, they and ALL others would have to meet the requirements without conditions.

I agree the head referee should be the final arbitor of the rules. If a variance is granted, it should be documented and publicized to the other teams. Teams need to know a variance in the rules has been granted and why. The public disclosure helps keep the officals impartial so that if the don't allow another team the same dispensation, it becomes obvious the offical isn't impartial. I've seen a number of actions by the officials that I consider showing partiality to some teams.

While I would want any variances to the rules publicized, I woudn't want it then put up to a vote or veto by the other teams. There's simply too much team politics to make this fair.

Tazlikesrobots 28-03-2006 11:11

Re: About being overweight and exceeding your size requirements – the need for reinsp
 
Simple. Put weight sensor pad in the robot start box and have the weight relayed to the scoring table. If a robot is overweight, they got 1 minute to correct the problem or forfeit the match.

As for the robot dimensions, borrow an idea theme parks employ to determine is a rider is tall enough to ride. A t-square for checking the length, width and height of the robot. This could be done while the robot is being placed on the field.

granted this will add to length between matches, but it would insure compliance by everyone.


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