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Firewolf 07-06-2002 19:23

Yet another reason to dislike Abercrombie...
 
ok, i don't if the robot parts has hit the fan yet, but how many of u have heard of all this prob. w/ AF?
their 'racist' t-shirts?
Do u think it's ok for them to make these shirts and that the people protesting are just up-tight
or
Do u think that it's wrong that they would make shirts like this that make fun of Asians (chinees, japanes ect)
and that these people have a right to protest (boycott) that get these shirts off the rack?


(*if u dont know, some of the shirst contain thing like 'Wong Brothers Laundry Service: Two wongs can make it White'
'Abercrombie and Fitch Buddha Bash: Get your Buddha on the Floor' there are others, if u see the pic.s of the shirts, u can see that pic's to, that are discribed as "The shirts, some of which show smiling men with slanted eyes and conical hats" in news)

purplehaze357 07-06-2002 19:32

i really dont pay any mind to things that dont affect me..i dont wear A/F and i wouldnt ever consider endorsing that garbage...i think theyre clothes are ugly but i wouldnt hav known about this unless u said something

Firewolf 07-06-2002 19:41

yeah, i know what u mean, hence that title 'another reason'
but anyway, some of their shirts are funny, like 'nice rack' and that stuff (t-shirts for guys)
but if i walk in there (kicking and screeming) i'd start twitching... {i dont care how much my mom whats me to be like everyone else, and 'pritty girls'.. and normal.... that is NOT happening}
but i just wanna know 'bout THIS topic...

(*anyone ever seen the Anarchy 'A' infornt of the AF name? now those are good shirts;) ((um, in the way of making fun of them....)))

David Kelly 07-06-2002 19:51

something that i friend of mine sent me:

Open minded students everywhere owe a debt of gratitude to Abercrombie and Fitch. Not since Hester Prynne has an embroidered "A" has there been such a clear indication of whom to avoid.



If you are offended, i apologize

Firewolf 07-06-2002 20:12

Quote:

Originally posted by David Kelly
something that i friend of mine sent me:

Open minded students everywhere owe a debt of gratitude to Abercrombie and Fitch. Not since Hester Prynne has an embroidered "A" has there been such a clear indication of whom to avoid.



If you are offended, i apologize

::stiffel laughter:: well, i guess i SHOULD thank them...

purplehaze357 07-06-2002 20:36

Quote:

Originally posted by David Kelly
something that i friend of mine sent me:

Open minded students everywhere owe a debt of gratitude to Abercrombie and Fitch. Not since Hester Prynne has an embroidered "A" has there been such a clear indication of whom to avoid.



If you are offended, i apologize


HAHA

Joe Matt 07-06-2002 20:37

If they put the A&F logo on Dog, well, "poop", OPNE THOSE DOORS! The morons are poring in!

I can hardly explain my hatred of A&F. Look. You pay $50 for a t-shirt that has a 2-inch by 4-inch logo on it.

Brandon Martus 07-06-2002 22:11

Quote:

Originally posted by JosephM
I can hardly explain my hatred of A&F. Look. You pay $50 for a t-shirt that has a 2-inch by 4-inch logo on it.
I never understood why you'd pay $50 for a t-shirt that is just an advertisement for the store. And most of them are made to look like they've been worn 200 times already.

Ian W. 07-06-2002 22:44

A&F is stupid. just go with like, old navy, or something else cheap. if someone judges me by my clothes, i don't think i want to know them anyway. so why should i spend lots of money on clothes, especially when i know at robotics they'll get destroyed? :D

Matt Attallah 07-06-2002 23:48

Quote:

Originally posted by Ian W.
A&F is stupid. just go with like, old navy, or something else cheap. if someone judges me by my clothes, i don't think i want to know them anyway. so why should i spend lots of money on clothes, especially when i know at robotics they'll get destroyed? :D
K-MART!! They are cool. Personally, i get my stuff form Meijers and Target. They are cheap, and i like them better! I don't like to look like a walking billboard for other companies that charge you $50/1.5 sq in of their logo!!! LONG LIVE CHEAP CLOTHES!!:D

Mike Schroeder 08-06-2002 00:07

A&F what is that?

I dodge those stores they ussualy pretnd tall fat people don't exist I don't even go to the mall i get deppresed to see all the "normal" sized people shop

robomama 08-06-2002 00:38

i can't stand the fact that people actually pay so much more for clothes so they can give free advertising to a company!! unbelievable..i'm with you all. long live wally world.

but i must brag for a moment...at the memorial day sale i got jessica a pair of ralph lauren jeans ( and just so you know, i would have bought these whether they were rl or not because of the price) for $12!!! and a pair of lei's for $6!!

that stuff just gets me excited!!

how bout the rest of you shoppers!!

Amy Beth 08-06-2002 01:37

I don't personally wear abercrombie, but y'all need to lighten up. They're just a brand. An overpriced, perverted brand, but still just a brand. Just cause you don't wear it, does that make something inherently wrong with it?

Chubtoad 08-06-2002 10:11

Who needs to buy shirts anyway??!! just use your ROBOTICS shirts!

DanL 08-06-2002 11:41

Playing devil's advocate, almost
 
Lots of people are saying that by wearing A&F clothes, you're pretty much being a billboard for 'em. I feel that wearing a particular brand of clothing is more of an expression of who you are, much like listening to a particular band. A particular brand shows what you like, and more often than not, shows your personality. Going back to Firewolf's origional idea, those shirts aren't as much 'advertising' as some people have made it seem. Sure, they put the word Abercrombie in there, but the point of the shirt is the joke, not the name. There are tons of other brands that the main point of the clothing is to advertise (think of brands such as Southpole, Fubu, etc). Even so, I still wish it was easier to find clothing that wasn't so branded (but this is corporate america, so fat chance of that happening).

I don't think it's that so many people hate A&F. Rather, I think it's that so many people hate the people who wear A&F. People who wear A&F, atleast in my expierience, are those snotty I-have-nothing-better-to-do-but-spend-$200-on-three-shirts-and-a-pair-of-pants type people. If it wasn't for the image that is associated with A&F (and if the price wasn't so ridiculous), I'd wear it.

Firewolf 08-06-2002 12:30

Re: Playing devil's advocate, almost
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SuperDanman

I don't think it's that so many people hate A&F. Rather, I think it's that so many people hate the people who wear A&F. People who wear A&F, atleast in my expierience, are those snotty I-have-nothing-better-to-do-but-spend-$200-on-three-shirts-and-a-pair-of-pants type people. If it wasn't for the image that is associated with A&F (and if the price wasn't so ridiculous), I'd wear it.

yesyesyes, verymuch so, its the people that wear it that make it unappeling (ok, there are some that are cool, but i'm stereotyping for a point here)
but the prices are off their rockers, and i mean, socks for $20??
and ag, i'm not gonna start on it all...
but yeah, its the image it has gotten...
but the prices are what REALLY get to me,
my mom offered to buy me a white shirt w/ 'aero' or something written on it for like 30 or somethng $$, i'm sure she ment well, but i sware i stood there blinking at the shirt and her for 5 min. then fell onthe floor laughing... they almost had to ascort me out...
but the funnist thing was when i went into one of those snotty stores w/ a snotty girl looking at me, w/ a "like 'ew'"look (all this happend when i had to go shopping for the nat.s) i turned to my mom,
and very loudly said,
'hey can we go to walmart?'
haha, that was the best, should have seen their faces...

but anyway, back on topic,
if these type of people already act like they are better then everyone, dont u think those contavertal t-shirts are a bad idea?
like, what i mean is, wouldnt it just make them feel like they can go around insulting everyone (as if they dont already) more then usual?

Clark Gilbert 08-06-2002 12:46

Other stores.....
 
If u guys think this about A&F, are your thoughts similar for stores like American Eagle, Hollister, Aeropostale, GAP, Old Navy?

Just wondering.

Firewolf 08-06-2002 12:54

Re: Other stores.....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Clark Gilbert
If u guys think this about A&F, are your thoughts similar for stores like American Eagle, Hollister, Aeropostale, GAP, Old Navy?

Just wondering.

i dont know, i can stand GAP and Old Navy, even thought the 'pritty-skinny-tall-girl' ads irk me sometimes, but yeah, i'd shop at the GAP and my bro gets stuff from O.N.
but i dont think i'd make them my anthms, if u get what i mean...

David Kelly 08-06-2002 13:07

Re: Other stores.....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Clark Gilbert
If u guys think this about A&F, are your thoughts similar for stores like American Eagle, Hollister, Aeropostale, GAP, Old Navy?

Just wondering.


i dont buy any of that stuff. i'm very satisfied with buying clothes from kohls or pennys. i don't need some big brand to help me fit into a group. thats my story and i'm stickin to it.

Brandon Martus 08-06-2002 13:14

Eddie Bauer has a good selection of stuff for those of us around 6'-7", so I stick with that.

robomama 08-06-2002 15:39

Quote:

but the funnist thing was when i went into one of those snotty stores w/ a snotty girl looking at me, w/ a "like 'ew'"look (all this happend when i had to go shopping for the nat.s) i turned to my mom,'hey can we go to walmart?'
haha, that was the best, should have seen their faces...'

ROFLOL
that's a good one!!!

Ian W. 08-06-2002 16:55

brands like o.n. aren't bad, because most of their stuff is resonably priced, and a lot doesn't have 'Old Navy' plasted all over it. GAP isn't that bad, but it's a bit expensive sometimes. as long as it's a good shirt or pants though, i don't mind paying a bit more than it costs. heck, if it lasts me two years, it's probably worth like $50 :D.

Melissa Nute 08-06-2002 17:01

I wear some A&F, i admit...but mostly i go in there and buy stuff when i have been given gift cards from my friends/family for christmas/birthday or i go to the sales table and you can usually find some cheap stuff over there....I agree a lot of their stuff is overpriced but then again department stores clothes are just as expensive it seems like

Melissa Nute 08-06-2002 17:05

Re: Other stores.....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Clark Gilbert
If u guys think this about A&F, are your thoughts similar for stores like American Eagle, Hollister, Aeropostale, GAP, Old Navy?

Just wondering.

I don't have an Aeropostale or Hollister in my area so I don't wear there clothes....I have bought a few things from American Eagle like a pair of shoes which i have abused throughly and they have held up for at least 2 years now so I don't care that i spent $60 on them and a few shirts here and there that were on sale.
I like Old Navy b/c the clothes aren't that expensive and for the most part they hold up except the only O.N. near me is like 45 minutes away so I don't feel like going out there too often to get clothes though....

IsabelRinging 08-06-2002 18:16

Huh. But have you guys noticed the new children's thongs A&F is making for girls age 7-10? Only a bit disturbing... until you throw in the fact that these CHILDREN'S thongs say things like "sexy" and "eye candy."

Now THAT is just inherently wrong.

Melissa Nute 08-06-2002 19:25

OMG! That is sick...

robomama 08-06-2002 19:45

IsabelRinging and Yearbook50...it's up to us women to NOT TO BUY CRAP LIKE THAT. for our daughter's sake....i know ya'll don't have a daughter yet (at least i don't think you do) but some day you may.
what a warped mind to think of something like that.

that really is disgusting.

Melissa Nute 08-06-2002 20:07

seriously, what parent would buy there child of 7-10 that underwear...since hopefully these girls wouldn't be off shopping by themselves anyway at that age

robomama 08-06-2002 21:59

unfortunately some parents just don't think. for some reason some people forget that children are not little adults. they need to be protected from some of the crap out there.
all children should be allowed to be children....but you really don't want to get me started. :-)

D.J. Fluck 08-06-2002 23:16

Quote:

Originally posted by Chubtoad
Who needs to buy shirts anyway??!! just use your ROBOTICS shirts!
Whooo!! im with u on that one..my wardrobe is robotics shirts/suff from pac sun/ and novelty shirts like from joes crab shack and soccer jerseys

Katie Reynolds 09-06-2002 09:33

Re: Other stores.....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Clark Gilbert
If u guys think this about A&F, are your thoughts similar for stores like American Eagle, Hollister, Aeropostale, GAP, Old Navy?

Just wondering.

Yeah, I've never liked Abercrombie ... American Eagle is a little better, but I never buy clothes there ... Never heard of Hollister... Aeropostale bothers me; my cousin who is like, a size -1 shops there cause she can't find clothes small enough anywhere else but we don't have an Aeropostale in Wisconsin so I (obviously) don't shop there ... Gap is ok, I just think their clothes are ugly ... I shop at Old Navy (Just bought a really cute dress there for $18! Woo hoo!). But usually I buy my clothes at Kohls, Deb, Vanity PacSun and sometimes Sears. I used to shop at Limited because they made jeans short enough to fit me! But then they started to get ridiculously expensive and then stopped selling jeans all together.

Oh, that whole children's thong thing? That's just wrong.

- Katie

Firewolf 09-06-2002 12:42

finally!
 
u people finally got the point y i started this!
that kind of... poopy...
the kid thongs... ok, its wrong enough for them to have it...
but y does it have things written on it?
what 7-10 year old (should be) going 'round showing off what it
says on their undergarments??
i mean, really...
then we sit here and wonder where all these pedophilic things / thoughts start off at...

samething w/ the shirts - i thought we were trying to STOP racism - okok, when ur j/king around w/ ur friends, it might be cool, everyones'k w/ it, but when people start boycotting stores, should it be stopped?

IsabelRinging 09-06-2002 15:52

I'm half Asian, and as far as the "racist" shirts go they don't really bother me. I would even go so far as to say I find them slightly amusing. But I'm sure a lot of people would NOT feel the same way I do.

It's pretty obvious A&F is doing all this for attention. Like they say, "There's no such thing as bad publicity."

I don't shop there solely because of the prices (and now, the children's thong thing). I wouldn't be like, "Ugh, I won't shop here because all the stupid preps shop here." I could care less about the store's reputation. I'm not worried about my clothing, as long as it looks decent, fits me, and is cheap.

I feel obliged to add that Bealls Outlet and TJ Maxx are stores of the gods.

Joe Matt 10-06-2002 09:14

What pisses me off is that people sit in Congress and say that video games, TV, and movies cause over sexualtiy, and here we have A&F selling thongs to 7 year olds. Come on!

robomama 10-06-2002 09:35

personally i do think that those things
Quote:

video games, TV, and movies
desensitize us into thinking well i guess this is ok. after seeing something so much the initital shock just isn't there. its a very easy lull to get into.. i know i'm just a guilty of this as anyone else.

i think if we all try to be true to what we know is right then we could solve a lot of problems. in other words-don't be afraid to say what you believe to be right , morally and ethically.

i think first does a wonderful job of promoting this.

ok somebody get me off this soap box!!!!

ChrisH 10-06-2002 13:07

Quote:

Originally posted by robomama

ok somebody get me off this soap box!!!!

Why ever would I want to do that? You're expressing my opinions so well!

robomama 10-06-2002 18:36

well thanks, chris
:)

Elgin Clock 11-06-2002 12:14

Quote:

Originally posted by IsabelRinging
Huh. But have you guys noticed the new children's thongs A&F is making for girls age 7-10? Only a bit disturbing... until you throw in the fact that these CHILDREN'S thongs say things like "sexy" and "eye candy."

Now THAT is just inherently wrong.


Is that the R. Kelly collection you are referring to?!??!:eek:

Ian W. 11-06-2002 12:21

something rather interesting...

my school has a 'quarterly' school newspaper. we just got the final one of the school year today. as iwas reading it, i noticed one of the articles in the viewpoints section was pretty much this exact thread :D. seems that we're not the only ones with a dislike for a&f. it actually even mentioned something about the children's thongs, although it said it was for ages 10 - 14, but seeeing what a&f has done, i'm not surprised if they have 7 - 10 thongs also.

Firewolf 12-06-2002 20:40

Quote:

[i]

Is that the R. Kelly collection you are referring to?!??!:eek: [/b]
omy, too true,


but it doesn't matter if the thongs are for 10-14 or 7-10, thats just ... wrong!

Trashed20 13-06-2002 13:44

Quote:

Originally posted by Chubtoad
Who needs to buy shirts anyway??!! just use your ROBOTICS shirts!
I have enought robotics shirts to wear a different one for everyday of the week and not repeat. then i need to wash 'em or i'll smell like florida and the monorails :)

GotGuts610 13-06-2002 16:54

My First Post!
 
Hey everyone! This is my first post, so I'm gonna try to make it good:
*As for the racist shirts, the first time I saw one of them was today, and frankly, even though I am not even partly Asian, I can see why these shirts could be found racist (PS: Isn't buddhism from India? And, if so, why are there Chinese/Japanese characters on the Buddha Abercrombie shirt?).
*As for the thongs for little girls, I think that its totally disgusting. Our perverted society has turned even little girls into sexual objects, and I think whoever came up with the idea of thongs for 10-14 year olds should be sued. After all, if we can sue McDonald's if our coffee is too hot, why can't we sue Abercrombie for encouraging pedophilia?
*As for wearing Abercrombie in general, I'm not completely opposed to it. I personally don't own any of their clothes because I think they're way to expensive, but its nearly impossible to buy shirts anywhere without company logos plastered onto them, so to me it doesn't matter if its Abercrombie, Old Navy, or whatever.

Ian W. 13-06-2002 17:08

GASP! max, how could you forget world history so fast!?! mr ferrante will be horrified!!! :p

FYI: Buddhism started in India, but then moved to China and Japan. What are we ever going to do with you max... :D

GotGuts610 13-06-2002 17:25

Copied Post
 
Now i will post the reply where I meant it to go:

Ian...
I know Buddhism moved to China and Japan, but if Abercrombie is going to make a racist shirt, they might as well make a reference to the country where it started, not where it migrated. I'll bet if the Buddha saw that they were using East Asian script on his shirt, he'd be turning over in his grave, that is, if he wasn't burned on a funeral pyre...

Ashley Weed 13-06-2002 18:17

Quote:



I have enought robotics shirts to wear a different one for everyday of the week and not repeat.


*Yeah, me too, but after 3 years of robotics, I finally made it from post-nationals return to school day until the last day of school (June 7th) without ever wearing the same robotics shirt twice! Eventhough I did this everyday, I still had the same people who asked me more than once what my shirts meant.


*I won't even get into the thong issue. In my mind the entire thing is just wrong. I agree that congress should pay attention to this.

*Last, I would never buy A&F, or anything similar to it, because their sizes range from a 0-4. Yeah right! How realistic is that? People think video games and television teaches children bad things. What about a child seeing a place offer clothes only to people who weigh less than 100lbs? Is that really healthy?

Perseus 14-06-2002 09:34

i heard they have no african americans in their adds. I HEARD.

Firewolf 14-06-2002 14:39

Quote:

Originally posted by weedie



*Last, I would never buy A&F, or anything similar to it, because their sizes range from a 0-4. Yeah right! How realistic is that? People think video games and television teaches children bad things. What about a child seeing a place offer clothes only to people who weigh less than 100lbs? Is that really healthy?

well, yeah, the size things a prob. i'm a short (and kinda lil to some extent) girl, , so yeah i can fit into some of those things, but sometimes i just look at the sizes when i'm w/ my friends (who are all tall {and normal}) and it IS redicules at what some of these people expect girls to look. and sometimes fitting in to a size 0 isn't all that comforting (esp. when the lenth is 12 in. too long!), and then when u go to another place and ur a size 12orsomething, i dont get their system!
but my fav. is the maneecs (sp?) and how they all suck up the clothes, and they look like 1/2 people! sometimes i get so mezmerized by their nothingness i end upstanding there and looking at them like... is that sapposed to be me?? ha!
someone needs to tell these desiners that food is good, and there is no way u gonna get me to look like THAT:p


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