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can any guess any one other then a first scorer tell me how high a Conner goal ball counter will go to

this number was found out at the Israel regional

Ben

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127? 255? 32,767? 65,535? 2,147,483,647? 4,294,967,295?

Those seem like reasonable guesses.

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999 or higher? I remember seeing the counting software when we were calibrating/focusing while setting up @ BMR, but I don't quite remember how high the digits went.

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The flaw with the auto corner goal counters is if a HP's hand crosses infront of the light bar it will add points to the board, and not just like 5-10, but 10's and 100's in a very short period of time.

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1,000

i think i saw somthing like this at the Pheonix Regional! but it obviastly wasn't the correct score!

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I'm going to guess 9999 because i know it is over 1,000 because we scored over that during a practice round when our back gate got pushed into the goal.

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When our team was at the PNW regional, the mesh cover for the lower corner goal fell, getting a couple of balls stuck too. I guess the computer keeps on counting any objects it sees, because our alliance score ended up being 3,000 something,which gave us the highest ever score in all of FIRST history.
(Yes, there was a rematch. Darn.)

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well those were some good guesses but none of you came any were close

this is were it finaly toped at 24,441 we were amazed at this even the guys from ifi and first couldn't beleive it.
this is for real

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I think you've been beat. I wonder how long the new one will stand?

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Actually. There was a higher legit score, I think. From what I was told TJ Squared (88) back in 1997 took all 9 inner tubes and put them on top of the goal scoring nine points and doubling that 9 times. I think that comes out to 4608.

This may not be entirely true or true at all, someone please tell me wrong, unless I'm right.

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Yeah that seems to be one of the biggest issues of the corner goals is that if an object gets caught within the lighted frame the computer just keeps counting, not to mention if a ball goes in but bounces back out, as accurate as it could be like the center goals it isn't. If the Cameras don't get calibrated the right way that would also leave a pretty big mess behind. These Cameras need to get Aimed and Focused for them to work properly. Unlike the Center Goals which use if I'm not mistaken Optical Sensors (3 I think one at the Ball Chute One at the Bottom of the ramp and one at the top of the ramp), And there probably is not a limit set to how high these cameras / sensors will count.

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The counters are nice for seeing real time scoring. At West Michigan they are using the counters, but are giving a final score from human counting. This is a really good idea and it works. There are not enough balls to confuse a person counting, Be it the 3pt or 1pt goals. I wish that they will come up with a better real time scoring in the future.

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Trust me FIRST will - As we all know its hard to make something roboust from Human, Robot and Scoring Object Contact. By FIRST piloting this years real time scoring by utilizing Cameras and Optical Sensors they have taken once again another huge step in the right direction, Their Main goal is that everyone has fun and the only way to do that is to make us the voluneers jobs that much easier - Yeah we had human counters as well and their count supersceded the Real Time Count but think of it this way at least you know the score will be that much more truthful. Trust me I'm sure whatever FIRST has planned for next year they will most definitaley bring back the Real Time Scoring and it will either go through a few upgrades or maybe just a couple of updates. Who Knows. All I can say is that it worked fairly well this year and I do hope it returns next year.

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i gotta, say, being a scorer must be really hard. i mean, they often are wrong, sometimes even indicating that the wrong team is winning, but they have to look at 3 robots scoring pretty much constantly. as a scout, looking at 1 robot i often had to guess! also, during one of the matches (i think it was in the afternoon on Saturday) at phili, instead of adding 10 for autonomus, they added 110! woopsies!

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Being a scorer isn't too hard. It's only when a robot is scoreing like 9 balls at the same time in a corner goal. Otherwise as far as scoreing goes, each goal has it's own scorer and if a ball rolls into the goal and the light is active the ball counts. We don't really pay attention to what any particular alliance or robot is doing out there..

Being a former scout in HS, I have to say that this game has to be really difficult to get accurate reports for the 5th best robot and lower.