Re: The Niagara Triplets the best team(s) in 2006?
 

I do not know who is the best is (i like 233). Our team would love to team up with any of these monster machines and make a killer alliance. This game can not be won by one robot. I hope that we can impress the top seeded teams so we can get picked and play in the elims rounds.


Shaun

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I think its the alliance (of 1114 and 1503) that's the best we've seen in 2006. The triplets alone, are one of the best, but not THE best.

The championship has, for the past two years, been an interesting place to compete; strange things happen.

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can someone tell me where to find footage of the triplets its my first year and im kinda stupid

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The triplets are awsome but team 217's turret design gives them the upper hand in my opinion.

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i know i heard somewhere that the triplets have a all girls team

is this correct. i think i heard it in this thread or the GTR Super Regional one.

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there is some footage posted on simbotics website from one of the regionals they attended. http://simbotics.homedns.org/?p=video&skin=redstuff
I can't wait for the video of the semis at GTR!!!

Re: The Niagara Triplets the best team(s) in 2006?
 

The triplets are truely a force to be reckoned with... but only championships will tell. I do believe that it was the alliance of these truely consistant robots that really makes them powerful. I think separate, they are powerful, but not as scary!

I wanted to say one thing to a question early in the thread. I dont think any of the triplets would purposly throw matches to be low and be in an alliance with the other two. They are just not like that. Now if two were in the top 8 would they decline? Likely. Any team that had won 3 regionals with another team would be silly to not try and create that alliance again. Is it fair? who knows. But is it smart? yes. Does it scare the rest of us?? Heck yes!

I saw a lot of matches from behind the "black table" in Toronto, and I observed a couple things that lead me to believe they are stoppable. In one match, 45 was able to keep 1503 from crossing the centerline, and defeated them purely by staying in their way. However, once a triplet parks at the goal, its nearly impossible to move them. I saw a few teams do this, but it might have only been 3 times in the entire regional, in all of their matches on the pontiac field.

Another thing is that I was shocked to see the match in which 229, 217 & 4 danced their way around the 2/3 triplet alliance. 217 founded the match by scoring more balls than both of the triplets together! Without a camera, the triplets take a long time to line up before a match, and it seems if they are a bit off, it just isnt as powerful in automode as some of the teams that use the camera.

But their robots are solid & amazing designs, rarely seem to fail, and the consistancy with which they play their matches is really amazing, and what makes them among the best in FIRST.

Im looking forward to seeing what Champs brings them (hopefully separate divisions or we are all in for a shock! lol).

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While I have not seen the triplets play, what you say here makes me wish our alliance at Vegas (25, 897 and us) would have gotten a chance to play them. Just becuase our alliance featured two excelent shooters, each loading differently (25 human, 987 roller) and our robot, that managed to play some strong defense during the tournament. I think it would've been an interesting match.

Sumadin

Re: The Niagara Triplets the best team(s) in 2006?
 

no this is incorrect. none of the triplets have an all girl team.

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What is absolutely amazing about the triplets is, echoing what a lot of other noted users have said already is their almost mind-boggling inability to be moved when they are parked in front or to the ramp side of the goal. That PID has drawn comparisons to Beatty's 2002 walking robot, though I personally have not seen that particular robot. At the same time, I have seen evidence of a new autonomous mode that dodges the need to go to the centre of the goal, where most teams can counter if no other team sets a pick. The mode seems to be able to go near a corner goal and shoot at a much sharper angle. They also have added a plastic flap, something insanely simple to their shooter that allows them to shoot in the manner of 703 and 229.

Put it simply, they are a very very very good team because of their ability to do the things that they do very very very well. This should be a philosophy for every worthy team to follow. You must be able to pick a function for your robot to do, innovate and create endlessly until you can repeat that action, then test it, break it, and do it all over again. The triplets can do just that. Are there other teams that can do that? Definitely. Are there other teams that can innovate and create under pressure like the triplets with that plastic cover? You bet.

All technical attributes aside, it comes down to team composition, chemistry, leadership and overall strength. They have some of the brightest and most strategically minded individuals leading their respective teams, but yet again, so do other teams. I think it is incredibly difficult and to a point, irresponsible to label them anything other than a new set of legendary teams to enter they fray. And they are 100% Canadian and proud of it too. :cool:

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That Match against two of the triplets was so insane. Our driver never shifted to low during our matches except when he tried to get onto the ramp because we had a leak in our pneumatics and he didnt want to waste air and risk falling out of gear. I just wish our team had more time to work on our robot because we got it so late into the competition. It was a well deserved win though. Extremely strong robot. The tank treads, coupled with the PID is just lovely. Defense against these bots is soooooooo necessary. i think the best way to stop them though is to keep them from parking near a goal.

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Team25 has won every regional undefeated, they have an amazing robot. Haven't seen the triplets play though, I guess we'll see at nationals. :cool:

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Triplets are one of the best, however, 25 is better and undefeated for good reasons.

It's a quick loader, HP loading is working a lot better than anyone ever expected, it holds a good amount of balls 20 or so? Autonomous works every time, and they have a few to select from. The drivetrain is unbelieveable, it's quick and with 2" thick, 9" wheels they got a lot of traction and that makes it pretty tough to push them around easily, on top of that it has a brake, and Corey knows how to drive it. But the thing that seperates this robot from everyone else, they shoot soooo fast, they have a catapult like mechanism to keep the balls flowing in, and then the shooter shoots them like any other robot. Nobody has shut them down at all, there are strategies you can use against them, but nobody can find the right combo.


The triplets do have one thing going for them though, there are 3 of them you need to beat and they can load off the ground.

Re: The Niagara Triplets the best team(s) in 2006?
 

25 hasn't attended three extremely difficult regionals as the triplets have. NJ and LV are cake compared to GTR. :)

But as Kim said, we'll all just need to wait until the end of April to find the truth.

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This is very true. Not taking anything away from 25, because winning any regional takes effort. But GLR and GTR, along with waterloo, thats some pretty good teams they had to go through.