Re: YMTC: #1 Seed
 

I haven't seen this in NASCAR; you must watch Formula 1.

Re: YMTC: #1 Seed
 

You play your hardest, you do your best, anything less doesn't belong out there.

Re: YMTC: #1 Seed
 

I agree.

I think throwing a match is disrespectful to the partners in your alliance, the alliance playing against you, your own team and its supporters. One of the cool things about FIRST is that we "compete like crazy" on the field (and cooperate like crazy off the field). How can you do that, if you're throwing matches?

Re: YMTC: #1 Seed
 

You have to play.

I don't know any team in FIRST or really any mentors in FIRST that would tell a team to throw a match. I know that i sure haven't and will never say we should throw a match. That is not and never will be part of FIRST.

Re: YMTC: #1 Seed
 

1st: what is the robot design rule?

2nd: i agree that throwing the game is disrespectful. furthermore, if Robot B threw the game, everyone there including robot 1's scouts would see it... would u want an alliance partner who had just thrown the match for their alliance?

Re: YMTC: #1 Seed
 

Not enough choices.
You forgot these:

• B sandbags C, meanwhile X dumps on A so that Y gets #1 seed and chooses Z and W and gives X an IOU.

• B sandbags C, but the scoring software gives them the win by mistake, causing B to protest their win and everyone else to detest B, but not by mistake.

• The US invades Canada mid April for NAFTA violations (at least that's the excuse given) and the Champs end up being played late July in Hamilton, Ontario because the Triplets aligned with Woburn and took out the first wave of Bradleys then a division of M1A1s.

• The Martians invade Atlanta but are done in by the common cold (great idea for a radio script), meanwhile all the scheming and dealing backfire into causing a Championship alliance made up of the three teams from New Mexico who conspired when no one was looking.

Regards,
Resident Cynic

Re: YMTC: #1 Seed
 

someone alleges that the robots are in violation - IE, overweight, shooter too fast, illegal battery....

Re: YMTC: #1 Seed
 

and this makes a difference how?

If the robot isn't illegal, it does nothing but make you look like a jerk.

Re: YMTC: #1 Seed
 

I have seen this happen..its not the moral thing to do, but it can be considered smart, if you are going for what you think would be the sure win.

Personally, I would never throw a match, no matter who it would get me alligned with. As Henry said, "Go Big or Go Home."

Re: YMTC: #1 Seed
 

if the robot was illegal then they are disqualified and lose the match

the point is you never know what will happen in a match - you decide to throw a match because you know your friends on the opposite side of the field will win... and you may end up looking like idiots

Re: YMTC: #1 Seed
 

And then, of course, there is robot E who is also allied with you. You don't know it but they are a small underfunded team who has never been picked to play in the finals before. They have had unusually good luck at this event and nothing has broken down. If you had won the match, they would have been in the top 8 and guaranteed to play in the finals. But you didn't, you threw the match and they were knocked out of the top 8 and weren't picked.

Extreme example I know, but just so long as we are inventing scenarios. When you throw a match you hurt everyone on your alliance. It would be irresponsible and un-GP to throw a match, no matter what the circumstances. This is how first works. Teams help each other of the field and play their hardest on it.